American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Esalia]

If a legal system is unjust, it absolutely deserves to be ignored.

I don't see anything more unjust than repealing the one thing keeping a metric fuckton of people away from homelessness.



The court ruled that segregation was okay.

I guess all the people who resisted segregation and opposed the rulings holding it up should've just bent over and taken it instead of fighting for the people who needed help.

You may love the court system so much you're willing to allow a ton of people to suffer just so your precious courts don't get ignored, but frankly there's more important things than that.

Those people were not defying a court. They were defying discriminatory and unjust laws.

Upheld by a court, so they were defying the court that said "yep these are legal and you must follow them".

ever hear of the Civil Rights act and Brown and Loving decision?

I do.

They don't matter all that much beyond changing my tenses from "are" to "were". People have routinely defied the courts in the past when it came to things universally considered monstrous today, and I don't see why the courts shouldn't be ignored again.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Did you know it was against the law to help runaway slaves escape? Guess abolitionists were bad dangerous people.

No they were not. Slavery is morally wrong.

And evicting millions of people during a pandemic isn't?????? What the fuck is wrong with you???

[Borderlands of Rojava]

It doesn't matter if it's the point, it's what they are doing. The court shouldn't get to hide behind the fake mask of "judicial impartiality" when they are making decisions against the will of the people that harm them grievously.

Judges should not consider politics, the will of the people or popular opinion in their decisions. They are not independent if they do that.

When they actively harm the people, I dont give a shit about their impartiality.

[Picairn]

That's not the point of the judiciary. Judges should not be concerned with public opinion.

So slavery is okay? Robbing people of their property for private corporations (Kelo v. New London) is okay? Money in politics is okay? Forced sterilization of the disabled (Buck v. Bell) is okay?

[Esalia]

Did you know it was against the law to help runaway slaves escape? Guess abolitionists were bad dangerous people.

No they were not. Slavery is morally wrong.

They were defying a court decision Lumen.

Clearly the right thing to do was to lock them all up in jail for defying the courts. It's what they deserved.

[Punished UMN]

It doesn't matter if it's the point, it's what they are doing. The court shouldn't get to hide behind the fake mask of "judicial impartiality" when they are making decisions against the will of the people that harm them grievously.

Judges should not consider politics, the will of the people or popular opinion in their decisions. They are not independent if they do that.

The law is political.

[San Lumen]

No they were not. Slavery is morally wrong.

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No they were not. Slavery is morally wrong.

They were defying a court decision Lumen.

Clearly the right thing to do was to lock them all up in jail for defying the courts. It's what they deserved.

Life sentence for defying the Supreme law of the land.

[Washington Resistance Army]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

Sometimes bloodshed is needed, welcome to human history.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

If my family was gonna get evicted and we were gonna end up living in a box, I would be honored to have an angry mob come out in our favor to prevent the eviction. If the cops fire on the crowd, that just makes them the murderers.

[Punished UMN]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

Slavery would have never ended without bloodshed.

[Kowani]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

Yes
There will be less suffering if poor people are not thrown out into the street during a pandemic
What you think there won’t be riots if that happens? Please
Landlords can fuck off lmao

[Picairn]

On another note, I don't understand why courts have so much power in American politics. A federal judge from a District court, which encompasses several states only, can just simply nullify federal EOs, which apply to the whole country? I call BS.

[Esalia]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

Justice usually comes at the cost of blood.

[San Lumen]

On another note, I don't understand why courts have so much power in American politics. A federal judge from a District court, which encompasses several states only, can just simply nullify federal EOs, which apply to the whole country? I call BS.

Yes because it’s a federal court. You can’t just appeal directly to the Supreme Court although there might be exceptions.

A district court encompasses part of a state and sometimes an entire one. Federal appeals courts are multiple states.

[Andsed]

As is evicting families onto the freezing cold streets. Fuck the court's order, and tell the landlords to piss off.

and you dont think they will get the police to forcibly evict them? Im not defending cops here or evictions but there is no way this doesn't end with bloodshed by what some are advocating.

Forcing people out of their homes into freezing streets is going to see plenty of angry people rioting. Defying court rulings is not something to be taken lightly, but when the courts start allowing millions of Americans to freeze in the street then its hard for me to oppose telling them to get fucked.

[The Marlborough]

Yeah and the people can use force to prevent that.

And yes just what we need a full on rebellion against the police. That;'s going to go over great and not lead to death and further unrest.

Will you be celebrating the Fourth of July?

[The Marlborough]

San Lumen, while I'm not a landlord per se I do have investments in rental real estate and I'm telling you right now landlords need to pound sand. This ruling is morally despicable and people should resist attempts to kick them out in the middle of a pandemic.

[Neutraligon]

There is a much more recent example of judges ignoring laws, namely when it came to SSM.

You mean Roy Moore? He got suspended from the Alabama Supreme Court for that stunt.

No, there was a judge who recognized the marriage of some individuals despite the state making it illegal.

[San Lumen]

You mean Roy Moore? He got suspended from the Alabama Supreme Court for that stunt.

No, there was a judge who recognized the marriage of some individuals despite the state making it illegal.

I don’t know what your referring too.

[Neutraligon]

No, there was a judge who recognized the marriage of some individuals despite the state making it illegal.

I don’t know what your referring too.

There was a thread, though I don't remember which one

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

Someone tell Mitch that voteing to acquit makes everything he is saying pure garbage.


Like you can't say all of this then vote to acquit him.

You either mean he is a traitor or he isn't, you can't have both.

After calling Trump moraly responsible for the terrorst attack on Jan 6th, he then turns around and says he would support him if he was the GOP nominee in 2024.

Mitch McConnell: would back The Traitorous Terrorist Trump if he gets GOP nomination.

Mitch McConnell: proud supporter of domestic terrorism to own the libs.

[Shu Chengdu]

Someone tell Mitch that voteing to acquit makes everything he is saying pure garbage.


Like you can't say all of this then vote to acquit him.

You either mean he is a traitor or he isn't, you can't have both.

After calling Trump moraly responsible for the terrorst attack on Jan 6th, he then turns around and says he would support him if he was the GOP nominee in 2024.

What the hell?

[Bienenhalde]

Courts ultimately derive power from the Constitution and the people. My idea is to nullify shit rulings in peace. Otherwise, the people may revolt under judicial tyranny.

Wouldn't that basically mean tyranny by majority and the Constitution being reduced to a worthless piece of paper? What is the point of a constitution if you cannot enforce it?

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

After calling Trump moraly responsible for the terrorst attack on Jan 6th, he then turns around and says he would support him if he was the GOP nominee in 2024.

What the hell?

He has either lost his mind or just wants to get back in Trump's good books...for some reason.