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Postby Conservative Republic Of Huang » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:40 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Necroghastia wrote:You don't give one single shit about "America First," otherwise you'd want your country to stop committing atrocities.

No, you don't. If you actually cared about violence, you'd want the camps closed.

I said I condemn the right wing violence and the leftist violence by those certain ones who have done so on both sides. So I do care about the question I asked and answered, that you have not answered and no one has answered, or hardly anyone?

Your goal is to draw some "both-sides" moral equivalence, which doesn't exist.


I will add to my original post. I stated, I once saw an interview on a Spanish News Channel where they interviewed a Central American Lady, she said they don't care if they send their kids illegally to the USA by themselves, like on the roof of that famous train. So lets send the kids back to their nations of origin with their parents where they belong and close the camps and cages of kids and adults and problem solved. Care about your kids.

Ask yourself why. What would make a parent do something like this? The answer is a hope for a better future. As much as we have declined and as unjust as our systems are, we remain the hope for a better life for many around the world. And the notion of accepting these people is central, inseparable from our national identity and myth. As much as Germans once were, Irish once were, Chinese once were to a greater degree, rejected by anti-American nativists, we have a duty to do better. The great cause of our nation is to accept all who dare to hope and dream of a better life, not to slam the door, forgetting that our forefathers were once foreigners too. We are immensely privileged to be Americans and it is our duty to let them partake of and contribute to our great bounty.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:43 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:We strongly agree on this one Derpy my friend.


Right then, so lets not put kids in cages. Lets humanly treat children and all migrants.

If they are legal immigrants, who applied in their nations of origin, met the requirements all nations have, passed the medical exams all nations have, and waited their turn in their nations of origin like me and my family under the hell hole government of Cuba. If they enter illegally they are illegal persons. Almost all nations if not all deport illegals, even Mexico when they want too. This not hard to understand, legal is legal and illegal is illegal. You do not make illegal laws and asylum easier to make them qualify as legal s, and call it immigration reform. This is enabling illegal immigration.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:49 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
Right then, so lets not put kids in cages. Lets humanly treat children and all migrants.

If they are legal immigrants, who applied in their nations of origin, met the requirements all nations have, passed the medical exams all nations have, and waited their turn in their nations of origin like me and my family under the hell hole government of Cuba. If they enter illegally they are illegal persons. Almost all nations if not all deport illegals, even Mexico when they want too. This not hard to understand, legal is legal and illegal is illegal. You do not make illegal laws and asylum easier to make them qualify as legal s, and call it immigration reform. This is enabling illegal immigration.

Do you want to deport dreamers? People who came here As infants and have never known another country?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:52 pm

So apparently Mr. Potato head is now gender neutral.

That means, of course, time for the Republicans to betray the union.

How a grown man gives a shit about the gender identity of a fucking plastic potato so much that he would betray his nation is beyond me.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:56 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:If they are legal immigrants, who applied in their nations of origin, met the requirements all nations have, passed the medical exams all nations have, and waited their turn in their nations of origin like me and my family under the hell hole government of Cuba. If they enter illegally they are illegal persons. Almost all nations if not all deport illegals, even Mexico when they want too. This not hard to understand, legal is legal and illegal is illegal. You do not make illegal laws and asylum easier to make them qualify as legal s, and call it immigration reform. This is enabling illegal immigration.

Do you want to deport dreamers? People who came here As infants and have never known another country?

Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:08 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Do you want to deport dreamers? People who came here As infants and have never known another country?

Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.

Allowing them to stay in exchange for constitutional amendment is a pretty poor plan, If I where the opposition I would insist on getting something more.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:12 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Do you want to deport dreamers? People who came here As infants and have never known another country?

Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.


Why? That is a terrible idea

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:19 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.

Allowing them to stay in exchange for constitutional amendment is a pretty poor plan, If I where the opposition I would insist on getting something more.

Ok, I wanted Republican President Trump to be able to make this political deal with the Democrats. If the Republicans and the Democrats agreed to this deal, they would have the votes to amend the constitution. What would you suggest as something more on both sides?
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Postby The powerful lands of America » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:21 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Allowing them to stay in exchange for constitutional amendment is a pretty poor plan, If I where the opposition I would insist on getting something more.

Ok, I wanted Republican President Trump to be able to make this political deal with the Democrats. If the Republicans and the Democrats agreed to this deal, they would have the votes to amend the constitution. What would you suggest as something more on both sides?

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:23 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Do you want to deport dreamers? People who came here As infants and have never known another country?

Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.

How would ending birthright citizenship end the problem of illegal immigration?
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:24 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:Allowing them to stay in exchange for constitutional amendment is a pretty poor plan, If I where the opposition I would insist on getting something more.

Ok, I wanted Republican President Trump to be able to make this political deal with the Democrats. If the Republicans and the Democrats agreed to this deal, they would have the votes to amend the constitution. What would you suggest as something more on both sides?

How about a path to citizenship?

How does ending birthrite citizenship solve illegal immigration?

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Postby Proctopeo » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:25 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So apparently Mr. Potato head is now gender neutral.

That means, of course, time for the Republicans to betray the union.

How a grown man gives a shit about the gender identity of a fucking plastic potato so much that he would betray his nation is beyond me.

It's a completely pointless change, but it's something more worthy of judicious eye-rolling than calls for secession.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:34 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Great question S L. I wish they can stay. But If I were President or world leader of any nation and I could make a deal with the opposition parties, I would let them stay, in exchange for the end of birth right citizenship so this illegal immigration problem does not keep repeating itself.

How would ending birthright citizenship end the problem of illegal immigration?

I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported, o tolerance illegal immigration laws. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:36 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gravlen wrote:How would ending birthright citizenship end the problem of illegal immigration?

I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case.


I don’t see how this helps regarding illegal immigration. They aren’t claiming citizenship. Your born in the US you are a citizen.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:37 pm

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:So apparently Mr. Potato head is now gender neutral.

That means, of course, time for the Republicans to betray the union.

How a grown man gives a shit about the gender identity of a fucking plastic potato so much that he would betray his nation is beyond me.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case.


I don’t see how this helps regarding illegal immigration. They aren’t claiming citizenship. Your born in the US you are a citizen.

I said end birth right citizenship for future illegals, future kids born in the USA. They will not send their kids alone on the roof of that famous train, I cant remember the name of. They will be deported, take care of your kids.
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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:48 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gravlen wrote:How would ending birthright citizenship end the problem of illegal immigration?

I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported, o tolerance illegal immigration laws. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case

While what you suggest would make it easier to deport people since there would be no kid citizen, it would not end illegal immigration and would create additional issues. I am not sure what I would want in return since you are asking for a change to the constitution but I would want some equivalent change for something my side supports. maybe something with healthcare, or maybe protections on voting enshrined in the constitution. Also, there would need to be a way to deal with the fact that a huge number of illegal immigrants work in agriculture and are needed there. My suggestion to that is to incentivize hiring legal immigrants for farmers and making it easier for people to get short term work visas for things like farming, that way the agricultural industry is not harmed.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:52 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I don’t see how this helps regarding illegal immigration. They aren’t claiming citizenship. Your born in the US you are a citizen.

I said end birth right citizenship for future illegals, future kids born in the USA. They will not send their kids alone on the roof of that famous train, I cant remember the name of. They will be deported, take care of your kids.

I don’t see what ending birthrite citizenship does to fix any of that.

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Postby Gravlen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:56 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Gravlen wrote:How would ending birthright citizenship end the problem of illegal immigration?

I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported, o tolerance illegal immigration laws. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case

So you would just want to create more Dreamers?

This would do nothing to solve the problem.
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Postby Gravlen » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:58 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I don’t see how this helps regarding illegal immigration. They aren’t claiming citizenship. Your born in the US you are a citizen.

I said end birth right citizenship for future illegals, future kids born in the USA. They will not send their kids alone on the roof of that famous train, I cant remember the name of. They will be deported, take care of your kids.

I mean, children born outside the US are already being sent unaccompanied to the US, so your premise is false.
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Unio de Sovetaj Socialismaj Respublikoj wrote:There is no use arguing the definition of murder with someone who has a picture of a penguin with a chainsaw as their nations flag.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 1:59 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I said end birth right citizenship for future illegals, future kids born in the USA. They will not send their kids alone on the roof of that famous train, I cant remember the name of. They will be deported, take care of your kids.

I don’t see what ending birthrite citizenship does to fix any of that.

ok, I am sorry but I do. You would have what you asked me for, kids born in the USA of illegals can stay. Kids born of illegals in the future cant stay, they and their parents will be deported, o tolerance illegal immigration laws. I know it is easy to do in my RP nations, :) lol, but not in real life, :) lol again.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:02 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I would like to hear NS Batman's suggestions first. But It would end illegals entering the nation illegally, having kids born in the USA, and claiming a right of citizenship for their kids and parents. The citizenship would not be granted to those future illegal kids, the kids and the parents will be deported, o tolerance illegal immigration laws. They can still enter illegally, but with the understanding by both political parties under the deal, they will be deported because they are illegals, this has to be part of the deal, if not it is a fake deal, blah, blah, blah, by the Democrats in this particular case

So you would just want to create more Dreamers?

This would do nothing to solve the problem.

Well you could technically end Jus Soli and move to Jus Sanguinis. That would technically end a lot of the whole issues of border crossing births, as the child would no longer be an automatic US citizens of neither parent was a US citizen at the time of the birth.

All you’d have to do is declare that all current US citizens are eligible to pass their citizenship down
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 25, 2021 2:07 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I said end birth right citizenship for future illegals, future kids born in the USA. They will not send their kids alone on the roof of that famous train, I cant remember the name of. They will be deported, take care of your kids.

I mean, children born outside the US are already being sent unaccompanied to the US, so your premise is false.

Deport them to their nations of origin with their parents where they belong. Allow the current kids of illegals to stay.
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