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Postby Chan Island » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:02 am

Conserative Morality wrote:"It's not time yet" is a tactic used by reactionaries in every era. "It's not time for democracy, it's not time for capitalism, it's not time for emancipation." Of course it's not time. It's never time, not on its own. You make it time. If you're under fire in the no-man's land of WW1, you start digging a foxhole even if the ideal time would be when you *aren't* being bombarded, because once you wait for it to be 'time', other situations will need your attention, assuming you survive that long. If the fields aren't furrowed, plow them. If the iron is not hot, make it so. If society is not ready, change it.

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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:03 am

Zurkerx wrote:Trump may soon have to answer rape allegations under oath.

The U.S. Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit has yet to rule on it but it will probably rule against Trump or the DOJ under Biden's direction will withdraw from the case. Suffice to say, if he is deposed, he won't be able to rely on the Presidency to protect him.


If he does its likely hes charged with perjury since hes incapable of telling the truth.

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Postby Pope Saint Peter the Apostle » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:20 am

Yawkland wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
Was there a point you were trying to make here? Or were you just desperately fishing for a gotcha?


No, that's exactly what you're doing.

Want to have a discussion about the validity of Mr. Young Pharaoh's claims and why a Republican organization largely funded by wealthy Zionists would be pissed?

Why do you say "Zionists" when you mean "Jews"?
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:26 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

I'd watch Donald Trump under oath. It'd be a shitshow of perjury.

Trump would likely just refuse to show up, not like he's cooperated with any legal orders in the last 4 years.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:27 am

https://bluevirginia.us/2021/02/audio-v ... ct-nominee

GOP frontrunner Amanda Chase says she will run as a independent for Governor of Virginia if 72 State Central Committee members select the nominee. I can't believe im saying this but i agree with her that its absurd.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:32 am

In Texas, the heads of the fossil fuel companies are celebrating their profits from the cold snap.

“Obviously, this week is like hitting the jackpot,” boasted Roland Burns, the chief executive of Comstock Resources, a shale drilling company that benefited from the sudden demand for natural gas, in a call with investors last Wednesday. The price for gas, said Burns, has been “incredible.”

Marshall McCrea, the co-chief executive of pipeline firm Energy Transfer, told investors last Wednesday that his company has “been able to benefit,” given its ability to transport gas from storage facilities near Houston to power plants across the state. The company, McCrea said, has transported large volumes of gas in Texas and capitalized on “very strong commodity prices.” The price of natural gas, which skyrocketed as power plants and industrial consumers scrambled to secure additional supply, benefited other energy interests. Macquarie Group, an investment bank that is the second-biggest physical gas supplier in the U.S., reported a windfall of $210 million from the swing in gas and electricity prices. The company also owns Griddy, a residential energy utility that has billed customers as much as $16,752 and $8,000 in recent days.

There was another “upside” to the Texas storm, McCrea noted during the call. “Just over the last four or five days,” he added, “the number one thing that everybody is recognizing, I’ve already said, and we all know on this call, how important fossil fuels are for this country, in this world.”
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:33 am

Kowani wrote:In Texas, the heads of the fossil fuel companies are celebrating their profits from the cold snap.

“Obviously, this week is like hitting the jackpot,” boasted Roland Burns, the chief executive of Comstock Resources, a shale drilling company that benefited from the sudden demand for natural gas, in a call with investors last Wednesday. The price for gas, said Burns, has been “incredible.”

Marshall McCrea, the co-chief executive of pipeline firm Energy Transfer, told investors last Wednesday that his company has “been able to benefit,” given its ability to transport gas from storage facilities near Houston to power plants across the state. The company, McCrea said, has transported large volumes of gas in Texas and capitalized on “very strong commodity prices.” The price of natural gas, which skyrocketed as power plants and industrial consumers scrambled to secure additional supply, benefited other energy interests. Macquarie Group, an investment bank that is the second-biggest physical gas supplier in the U.S., reported a windfall of $210 million from the swing in gas and electricity prices. The company also owns Griddy, a residential energy utility that has billed customers as much as $16,752 and $8,000 in recent days.

There was another “upside” to the Texas storm, McCrea noted during the call. “Just over the last four or five days,” he added, “the number one thing that everybody is recognizing, I’ve already said, and we all know on this call, how important fossil fuels are for this country, in this world.”

Blood-sucking parasites all of them.
This is exactly why need to regulate the fuck out of the fossil fuel industry.
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Postby West Balkan Union » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:35 am

our government is a joke.

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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:37 am

Genivaria wrote:
Kowani wrote:In Texas, the heads of the fossil fuel companies are celebrating their profits from the cold snap.

“Obviously, this week is like hitting the jackpot,” boasted Roland Burns, the chief executive of Comstock Resources, a shale drilling company that benefited from the sudden demand for natural gas, in a call with investors last Wednesday. The price for gas, said Burns, has been “incredible.”

Marshall McCrea, the co-chief executive of pipeline firm Energy Transfer, told investors last Wednesday that his company has “been able to benefit,” given its ability to transport gas from storage facilities near Houston to power plants across the state. The company, McCrea said, has transported large volumes of gas in Texas and capitalized on “very strong commodity prices.” The price of natural gas, which skyrocketed as power plants and industrial consumers scrambled to secure additional supply, benefited other energy interests. Macquarie Group, an investment bank that is the second-biggest physical gas supplier in the U.S., reported a windfall of $210 million from the swing in gas and electricity prices. The company also owns Griddy, a residential energy utility that has billed customers as much as $16,752 and $8,000 in recent days.

There was another “upside” to the Texas storm, McCrea noted during the call. “Just over the last four or five days,” he added, “the number one thing that everybody is recognizing, I’ve already said, and we all know on this call, how important fossil fuels are for this country, in this world.”

Blood-sucking parasites all of them.
This is exactly why need to regulate the fuck out of the fossil fuel industry.

No, more drastic action needs to be taken against these money hungry elitists and their government pals through actual force.
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Imagine being shocked that greed, corruption, and abuse of power is being used in politics, that's normal.
Ethics and morality are for the weak and spineless, and leads to a doomed failure in politics or any industry in general.
The media is a tool used by the two big political parties to fund propaganda, and the people who consume it are the sheep being used to fuel the continuing partisan divide.
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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:41 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:Joe Bidens dog is unpresidential and ugly looking. He's mocking the country by owning such an unfuckable dog while living in the white house.

Am I being serious?


If you are, you've just committed a forum offense. "A dog even my dog wouldn't fuck" would be safer!


It's the newsmax story on Bidens dog.

I'm baffled why they ran it and I genuinely can't tell if they want people to take it seriously or not. It's like an onion news segment.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:43 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
If you are, you've just committed a forum offense. "A dog even my dog wouldn't fuck" would be safer!


It's the newsmax story on Bidens dog.

I'm baffled why they ran it and I genuinely can't tell if they want people to take it seriously or not. It's like an onion news segment.

Newsmax is a rag of a news agency.

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Postby Ostroeuropa » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:45 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's the newsmax story on Bidens dog.

I'm baffled why they ran it and I genuinely can't tell if they want people to take it seriously or not. It's like an onion news segment.

Newsmax is a rag of a news agency.


I can't even think of comic book villains who would yell at a dog for being ugly.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:45 am

Ostroeuropa wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
If you are, you've just committed a forum offense. "A dog even my dog wouldn't fuck" would be safer!


It's the newsmax story on Bidens dog.

I'm baffled why they ran it and I genuinely can't tell if they want people to take it seriously or not. It's like an onion news segment.


OK. The Biden's have two dogs. Maybe a His Dog / Her Dog thing?

Anyway, if either of them is reading this: I'm sure nasty mr. Newsmax was talking about the other dog!
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Postby Gravlen » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:49 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Why do you think SCOTUS has authority to overturn the Pennsylvania Supreme Court's interpretation of the Pennsylvania Constitution?


Uh, because it's within the power of Pennsylvania to write ludicrous crap into their constitution, which violates the US constitutional rights of US citizens who have the bad fortune to be in the state at the time? And who possibly can't leave again because the state locked them up for said ludicrous reason ..?

At that point, it's a question of interpreting the US Constitution. That's within the remit of SCOTUS.

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:Why do you think the Pennsylvania Supreme Court can make ANY ruling which is not subject to Federal review?

In this case, because of the system of federalism established by the United States Constitution. Federal courts may hear cases concerning state laws if the issue is whether the state law violates the federal Constitution. The question at hand here, however, was not if the law violated the federal Constitution, but if it violated the State constitution.

The Pennsylvania General Assembly made a law. The Pennsylvania Supreme Court interpreted that law. As this was a matter of state law, the judgment of the state supreme court is final and binding in both state and federal courts. SCOTUS has no authority to review the Pennsylvania Supreme Courts interpretation of Pennsylvanian state law. In fact, such a review would be unconstitutional under the US Constitution.

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:There is no person in the United States, known to government or not, citizen or not, who is not protected by some part of the US Constitution. And state's rights can go fuck a coat of arms.

Don't be silly.

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:EDIT: I'll go further and say that if SCOTUS's reason for refusing certiorari was their own lack of jurisdiction, then they showed a cowardly lack of curiosity about whether PA's constitution is US constitutional. Still, if it was, surely some other state would have standing to challenge it directly.

No, the lack of cert was because the case was moot.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Tue Feb 23, 2021 11:53 am

San Lumen wrote:
Ostroeuropa wrote:
It's the newsmax story on Bidens dog.

I'm baffled why they ran it and I genuinely can't tell if they want people to take it seriously or not. It's like an onion news segment.

Newsmax is a rag of a news agency.


Personally I reserve the approbation "rag" for publications that are at least useful for rags.

Sadly we've discovered that past the barrier of "people will pay a few cents for this, providing there's a scantily clad lady on page 3" there is no bottom of the barrel.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:13 pm

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Postby Galloism » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:14 pm

Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:15 pm



All they can do is request it, Salem will never approve such a transfer, nor would Congress likely do so.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:15 pm

read your own damn sources
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Postby Dresderstan » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:17 pm


I remember years ago a few southern New York counties wanted to join PA, as such this will go no where.
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Imagine being shocked that greed, corruption, and abuse of power is being used in politics, that's normal.
Ethics and morality are for the weak and spineless, and leads to a doomed failure in politics or any industry in general.
The media is a tool used by the two big political parties to fund propaganda, and the people who consume it are the sheep being used to fuel the continuing partisan divide.
Time for compromise is over, time to end the reign of corrupt politicians on all sides of politics and their crony capitalist bourgeoisie buddies through force.

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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:25 pm

read your own damn sources
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Postby Shrillland » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:30 pm



$10? Might as well just come to my house and piss on my carpet for all the good that will do.
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Postby Zul-ar » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:31 pm

Shrillland wrote:


$10? Might as well just come to my house and piss on my carpet for all the good that will do.

I'll take you up on that, for ten bucks that is.
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Feb 23, 2021 12:36 pm

Shrillland wrote:


$10? Might as well just come to my house and piss on my carpet for all the good that will do.


It's interesting how ruby red states are always at least a decade behind everyone else. It's like a time machine to the sort of recent past.
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Postby Senkaku » Tue Feb 23, 2021 1:06 pm


What is inflation at these days? Is 10 2025 dollars really that much more than 7.25 2021 dollars?
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