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Postby San Lumen » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:43 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You'd be surprised actually. He could end all firearms and ammo imports and such things via EO, and that would seriously disrupt things.

Which would be unconstitutional and isn't on the democratic agenda. I only see that being used in an attempt to blackmail Congress into passing gun control laws which would look bad on them and probably backfire massively on them electorally and result in a GOP Congress in 2022.

which is why Biden wouldnt do something like that. He wants to keep Congress next year.

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Postby Valrifell » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:43 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:Gun control is far from a priority right now. Plus I don't see any of it passing with a 50-50 Senate and an 8-strong House majority when you have people like Manchin and Sinema.


Biden has spoken a lot about the topic and just a couple days ago put out a call for Congress to take action on the topic because he doesn't want to wait. While I don't think anything will pass the Senate I could see Biden trying to push something through or doing an EO and uniting the GOP over it.


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Postby Major-Tom » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:45 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Saiwania wrote:My prediction is that the Democrats under Biden are going to go for Canadian style Gun Control and on that basis alone, the GOP is going to win again with a vengeance in 2022.

Gun control is far from a priority right now. Plus I don't see any of it passing with a 50-50 Senate and an 8-strong House majority when you have people like Manchin and Sinema.


Yeah, I think even Schumer recognizes the daftness of prioritizing gun control right now.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:45 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
You'd be surprised actually. He could end all firearms and ammo imports and such things via EO, and that would seriously disrupt things.

Which would be unconstitutional and isn't on the democratic agenda. I only see that being used in an attempt to blackmail Congress into passing gun control laws which would look bad on them and probably backfire massively on them electorally and result in a GOP Congress in 2022.


It's actually not unconstitutional, or at least I'm not sure if it has ever been challenged. HW Bush added a great many firearms to the import ban list in the 90's and then Clinton and Obama followed up with more additions in their presidencies. I would agree it would look bad but this is the Dems version of abortion, common sense goes out the window for purity points so much like Proct I wouldn't be shocked if the Dems sabotage themselves with it.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:46 am

Suriyanakhon wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Looking forward to 2024 and people posting pictures of Texas, captioned as "VENEZUELA".


You're extremely optimistic, lol. I give it until next month at best.

Revisiting this post because we were both wrong, it's more or less already happening.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:48 am

Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:49 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love


Halberds are shit tbh, pike gang
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:49 am

The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love

Why do that when he can just shoot you and take the halberds anyway?

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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:49 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love


Halberds are shit tbh, pike gang

Halberds at least have flair.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Thu Feb 18, 2021 10:50 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love


Halberds are shit tbh, pike gang

.... We used to be friends Wash.

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Adamede wrote:
The Huskar Social Union wrote:Wash, how would you feel if i took away your guns but gave you Halberds instead?

Halberds are pretty sweet, got a pokey bit and an axe head whats not to love

Why do that when he can just shoot you and take the halberds anyway?
That would be very rude
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:02 am

Saiwania wrote:My prediction is that the Democrats under Biden are going to go for Canadian style Gun Control and on that basis alone, the GOP is going to win again with a vengeance in 2022.

I hope so, USA, USA, USA.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:04 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:The GOP very likely isn't going to sweep 2022. Trump is taking a wrecking ball to the party and even if he wasn't the Senate map this go around is stacked in favor of the Dems. The best case for the GOP is they ride on some controversial stuff the Dems try and take a slim majority in the House.

The problem is the GOP spitting between now and then. Which tbh is highly likely given that several state reps are leaving the party
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:07 am


Same reason anyone goes to jail, presumably. They were arrested and couldn't afford bail.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:09 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:The GOP very likely isn't going to sweep 2022. Trump is taking a wrecking ball to the party and even if he wasn't the Senate map this go around is stacked in favor of the Dems. The best case for the GOP is they ride on some controversial stuff the Dems try and take a slim majority in the House.

The problem is the GOP spitting between now and then. Which tbh is highly likely given that several state reps are leaving the party

If the GOP split's into the GOP and Patriot Party, they will still hold many similar views, I think they are going to have to negotiate with each other against the Democratic Party to pass or block certain issues, like in Canada and European nations.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:12 am

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What? Why are they in jail in the first place?

Same reason anyone goes to jail, presumably. They were arrested and couldn't afford bail.

Monetary bail minimums should be abolished. Monetary bail should become fully income adjusted.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:16 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Same reason anyone goes to jail, presumably. They were arrested and couldn't afford bail.

Monetary bail minimums should be abolished. Monetary bail should become fully income adjusted.

Depending on the crimes of the accused.
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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:20 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:The problem is the GOP spitting between now and then. Which tbh is highly likely given that several state reps are leaving the party

If the GOP split's into the GOP and Patriot Party, they will still hold many similar views, I think they are going to have to negotiate with each other against the Democratic Party to pass or block certain issues, like in Canada and European nations.

Actually it wouldn’t. What would happen is that the GOP and the splitters would take votes from eachother while the democrats win the seats
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:25 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:Monetary bail minimums should be abolished. Monetary bail should become fully income adjusted.

Depending on the crimes of the accused.

If a person is deemed safe enough to be bailed, that person should pay a bail adjusted to reflect their income.

It's not rocket science.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:27 am

Thermodolia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:If the GOP split's into the GOP and Patriot Party, they will still hold many similar views, I think they are going to have to negotiate with each other against the Democratic Party to pass or block certain issues, like in Canada and European nations.

Actually it wouldn’t. What would happen is that the GOP and the splitters would take votes fromother while the democrats win the seats

I once posted in different and similar words, perhaps the so called centrist Democrats would join the GOP centrists in whatever party they call it. So we would have the centrists, Patriots and the Democrats.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Dog_Coalition

Good logical sounding point, but many districts are gerrymandered with Republican and Democrat majorities. Either way those GOP and Patriot elected representatives are still going to have to negotiate to pass or block certain issues, even the Democrats.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:39 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Depending on the crimes of the accused.

If a person is deemed safe enough to be bailed, that person should pay a bail adjusted to reflect their income.

It's not rocket science.

Good sounding point, you convinced me my friend, we strongly agree.

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Postby Garkland » Thu Feb 18, 2021 11:46 am

You know just because Trump escaped impeachment twice, he's still not out of the woods. He still has serval lawsuits and possible criminal charges (with taxes and sexual assault) that could land him in jail. Expect Trump stocks to dramatically decrease even more when the trials start for Trump.

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