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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:05 pm

Silvedania wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Michael Van der Veen, a Trump attorney.

Oh, you're watching Impeachment 2: The Insurrection. Is it any good? And by good I mean cringy.


Sometimes the Trump attorneys say something that makes me chuckle, otherwise it's rehashing stuff I already knew or thought.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:06 pm

Kowani wrote:oh
they asked about the Big Lie
here it is

WHAT A WEASEL
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Kowani wrote:oh
they asked about the Big Lie
here it is

WHAT A WEASEL


Yes but what did you expect.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:08 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kowani wrote:WHAT A WEASEL


Yes but what did you expect.
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Silvedania
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:08 pm

He's like "It's so off topic wah wah wah wah." Though it is on topic
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Valrifell
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Postby Valrifell » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:09 pm

Seems like the Trump defense team's argument is "well technically he didn't say to attack the Capitol directly"
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:09 pm

"he didn't explicitly say it on the 60th"
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:10 pm

Silvedania wrote:He's like "It's so off topic wah wah wah wah." Though it is on topic

Oh wait that was Bernie's question
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:10 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
and your anecdotes dont mean anything when you have no argument and dismiss facts as opinion or play Russian reversal.

As far as we are concerned you guys have no argument and dismiss our facts as opinions, this is a fact. It is called human nature and it works both ways not just your ways. I for one don't have a problem with any persons anti Trump views and posts.

I do give you credit S L, you have never insulted me with actionable or non actionable personal and political insults like many on NS have done too me. Because we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump. You have never made fun of my bad english. You have never put me on ignore or say you will put me on ignore. I thank you for it S L.

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You don’t speak for all Republicans. Stop acting like it. A Russian reversal is not an argument.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:12 pm

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Silvedania
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:13 pm

LOL Trump's lawyer used the phrase, "Jiminy crickets" in his answer

Edit: Whoa Plasketts(Plaskets?) has a very strong voice.
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Greater Miami Shores
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:14 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:If Trump had conceded in November, there wouldn't be an Almost Reichstag Fire, if he had told the rioters to go home on or before the 6th, there wouldn't be an Almost Reichstag Fire. Lots of things there that would've put a lid on the violence, after the rioters broke into the Capitolium though? Nah, that's like saying "No, Please, Don't." in the most feeble voice you can imagine.

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Because Republican President Donald J Trump strongly believes there was massive Democrat vote fraud against him and challenged it. Just like Democrat Al Gore strongly believed there was massive Republican vote fraud against him and challenged it. President Trump did not concede. Al Gore did not concede. Al Gore has a right as an American citizen to challenge the election results and no concede. President Trump has a right as an American citizen to challenge the election results and not concede. Your point is not strong.

There was violence by a few Trump supporters not by most Trump supporters at the Pro Trump Stop The Election Steal Rally. Not by my Proud Pro Trump Republicans, Cuban and American friends. US Vietnam Combat Veterans of The Army, Navy, Air Force and US Marines. If I had gone with them like I wanted too, I would have been the worthless one compared too them. GMS.
I once tried to K Me. Posted It and Reported. Locked by Mods. I am Autistic accounts for Repetitive Nature. I am Very Civil and Respectful to all on NS and off NS. My Opinions Are Not Bad Opinions No Ones Opinions Are Bad Opinons. We are on NS, to share, discuss, argue, disagree, on Trump, elections, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Libertarians and whatevers, with respect. This Respect Is Given It Is Not Earned, This Respect Is Called Freedom of Expression and Democracy. This Man Always Says What He Means, I Am The Real Thing. I Make Ted Cruz look like a Leftist. I have been on NS For over 10 Years with a Perfect Record of No Baiting, Trolling, Flaming, or Using Foul Language. I Am Very Proud of It and Wish To Keep My Record Clean. But I Am Not The Only One On NS. GMS. I'm Based.

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Engadine Mcdonalds 1997
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Postby Engadine Mcdonalds 1997 » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Kowani wrote:can we abolish the position of the senate president pro tempore
leahy's fucking falling apart

I'll one-up ya, why not abolish the senate all together? I mean Christ on a bicycle, the Americans already have the electoral college that doesn't serve any logical function in the modern world, why have a draconian 'check on power' on top of that if all it does is slow down justice and the needs of the working class? It's pointless! If someone wins the Presidency, then they should be able to implement the policies they campaigned for instead of having to """"""convince"""""" senators to side with a motion.
And yes I fully understand what a reactionary like Trump would do without a senate to impede his goals, all I have to remember is Queensland under Campbell Newman with record high land clearing rates, cutting of thousands of jobs, and the accelerated destruction of The Great Barrier Reef... all in just three years. Guess why he only had three years? I'll give you as many guesses as he had years in office
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXtq4a8829g&t=1s

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Postby Rusozak » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:15 pm

Silvedania wrote:LOL The lawyer used the phrase, "Jiminy crickets" in his answer


That's some malarkey tier old school slang.
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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:16 pm

huh
that...doesn't really answer the question
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Silvedania
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:16 pm

Rusozak wrote:
Silvedania wrote:LOL The lawyer used the phrase, "Jiminy crickets" in his answer


That's some malarkey tier old school slang.

Yes, yes it is.
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News:All trade with Crabaiaia and Pikala has stopped as diplomats meet in Trenaka.  Silvedanians are confused by Quentin Tarantulatino's new film, Seasonal Snackbox(This is a Bojack Horseman reference.) Weird song goes viral for making no sense.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:16 pm

https://twitter.com/mkraju/status/13603 ... 95489?s=20

Murkowski, Barrasso and Johnson all think defense argument is good. I bet only Romney votes for conviction. Can we just admit impeachment of a president is meaningless and they can do whatever they want and are above the law?

If a attempted coup isn’t grounds for conviction nothing is.
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:19 pm

Silvedania, the majestic nation.
NS Stats are mostly accurate except for a few things, like this nation is capitalist and the death penalty isn't in effect

News:All trade with Crabaiaia and Pikala has stopped as diplomats meet in Trenaka.  Silvedanians are confused by Quentin Tarantulatino's new film, Seasonal Snackbox(This is a Bojack Horseman reference.) Weird song goes viral for making no sense.

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Greater Miami Shores
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:22 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:As far as we are concerned you guys have no argument and dismiss our facts as opinions, this is a fact. It is called human nature and it works both ways not just your ways. I for one don't have a problem with any persons anti Trump views and posts.

I do give you credit S L, you have never insulted me with actionable or non actionable personal and political insults like many on NS have done too me. Because we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump. You have never made fun of my bad english. You have never put me on ignore or say you will put me on ignore. I thank you for it S L.

GMS.


You don’t speak for all Republicans. Stop acting like it. A Russian reversal is not an argument.

I have explained it to you and all of you in details many times, I strongly agree with them and they strongly agree with me, these are facts. I once kind of invited you to one of my Trump Republican Rallies as my personal guest. You would have learned we strongly agree with each other. It would have been my duty and honor to defend you from them, if they tried anything to hurt you with personal and political insults and hurt you physically, and I would have stood up for you and defended you. This goes for any persons on NS and off NS. GMS.
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I once tried to K Me. Posted It and Reported. Locked by Mods. I am Autistic accounts for Repetitive Nature. I am Very Civil and Respectful to all on NS and off NS. My Opinions Are Not Bad Opinions No Ones Opinions Are Bad Opinons. We are on NS, to share, discuss, argue, disagree, on Trump, elections, Republicans, Democrats, Socialists, Libertarians and whatevers, with respect. This Respect Is Given It Is Not Earned, This Respect Is Called Freedom of Expression and Democracy. This Man Always Says What He Means, I Am The Real Thing. I Make Ted Cruz look like a Leftist. I have been on NS For over 10 Years with a Perfect Record of No Baiting, Trolling, Flaming, or Using Foul Language. I Am Very Proud of It and Wish To Keep My Record Clean. But I Am Not The Only One On NS. GMS. I'm Based.

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Postby Albrenia » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:23 pm



That is brilliant news. If he manages to do it I'll be quite impressed and pleased.

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Kowani
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:24 pm

"muh black lives matter"
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:24 pm

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/538 ... ring-trump

Senator Thune says he is open to a censure of Trump.

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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:(Image)

Because Republican President Donald J Trump strongly believes there was massive Democrat vote fraud against him and challenged it.

He doesn't believe that at all, it's just some bullshit he made up because he was butthurt about losing. Hell, he has a history of doing it.
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Silvedania
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Postby Silvedania » Fri Feb 12, 2021 3:25 pm

Kowani wrote:"muh black lives matter"

"VP Harris has totally said stuff like this before and I'm not gonna cite any sources and there is no evidence of this at all"
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News:All trade with Crabaiaia and Pikala has stopped as diplomats meet in Trenaka.  Silvedanians are confused by Quentin Tarantulatino's new film, Seasonal Snackbox(This is a Bojack Horseman reference.) Weird song goes viral for making no sense.

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