American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Untecna]

Yes, I agree with your question, but what you guys call mainstream media we call leftist media.

Would it be rude to point out that what you call something is of very little interest to anyone but yourself?

Best to ignore 'em.

[Paddy O Fernature]

Mixing believers of radical Islam into the general prison population is just asking for trouble as conversion to said ideology has been an ongoing issue already in the past across several nations.

Sounds like you're suggesting that the state should get to punish people extrajudicially on the basis of their religious beliefs.

Textbook selective hearing at it's finest.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Would it be rude to point out that what you call something is of very little interest to anyone but yourself?

Best to ignore 'em.

I don't ignore any Persons for their views for any reasons, I will never put any persons on ignore for any reasons. How would this Person above feel If I said the same about his views, how would this Person above feel if any Person said the same about his views? What would this Person above say? GMS.

I respect the democratic rights of any persons to express their views to me and anyone on and off NS, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called Democracy. GMS.

[Senkaku]

Yes, Zurkerx, this pattern of Trumpist doctrine swelling in the Republican voter base, while shrinking almost to nothing among Indies or Dems, is not at all new.

I should be seen differently in light of a less pronounced but now rather long trend of shrinking Republican voters (self-identified OR registered). Rather than the basket of deplorables becoming heavier, it may actually be becoming lighter as the number of voters prepared to break with the party altogether to dis-endorse the regressive platform, begins to coagulate into a whole new party. If that does start to happen I doubt it can be stopped or reversed. They have to fight to the death because "there ain't room in this district fer the three of us" ...

I don't think that's going to happen. More centrist/moderate elite GOP types are the only constituency who really want it, everyone else in the lower belief strata seem prepared to either enthusiastically go along with Trumpism or grit their teeth and bear it. I'm not convinced a whole new party aimed at ex-GOP Trump defectors would actually have a mass constituency that could make it an electoral force to be reckoned with, I suspect they'd end up with a comically poor showing comparable to the Greens and Libertarians at their lowest ebbs.

[Untecna]

Best to ignore 'em.

I don't ignore any Persons for their views for any reasons, I will never put any persons on ignore for any reasons. How would this Person above feel If I said the same about his views, how would this Person above feel if any Person said the same about his views? What would this Person above say? GMS.

I respect the democratic rights of any persons to express their views to me and anyone on and off NS, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called Democracy. GMS.

You know why I'm saying to ignore you, right?

[The Alma Mater]

Best to ignore 'em.

I don't ignore any Persons for their views for any reasons, I will never put any persons on ignore for any reasons. How would this Person above feel If I said the same about his views, how would this Person above feel if any Person said the same about his views? What would this Person above say? GMS.

I respect the democratic rights of any persons to express their views to me and anyone on and off NS, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called Democracy. GMS.

Yes, but the mainstream US media still is not "leftist" by any stretch.

[Senkaku]

Sounds like you're suggesting that the state should get to punish people extrajudicially on the basis of their religious beliefs.

Textbook selective hearing at it's finest.

If you're concerned about radicals of one ideology swaying converts in prisons, then presumably we should also be worried about white supremacists, tankies, Christian extremists, Zionists, Black Power types... are we going to build special isolation wards all across the country for each distinct flavor of radicalism that could potentially gain recruits in gen-pop prisons? It seems to me a much easier solution would be to make prisons more humane places so people aren't as susceptible to being recruited by radical anti-state forces inside, and/or to improve access to education inside prisons (since the public school system is remarkably effective at producing a baseline moderate level of harmless nationalism).

[Greater Miami Shores]

Yes, I agree with your question, but what you guys call mainstream media we call leftist media.

what you consider news such as OANN, Brieibart and NewsMax espouses lies and half truths. For example calling the election rigged despite there being zero evidence it was. They are not not reliable source and just because you believe them to be so doesn't make it truth.

SL we strongly disagree with your post and views, many persons on the right say the same thing you say about leftist sources, are you surprised? are you shocked? are any of you surprised are any of you shocked?

GMS.

[Dresderstan]

I don't ignore any Persons for their views for any reasons, I will never put any persons on ignore for any reasons. How would this Person above feel If I said the same about his views, how would this Person above feel if any Person said the same about his views? What would this Person above say? GMS.

I respect the democratic rights of any persons to express their views to me and anyone on and off NS, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called Democracy. GMS.

You know why I'm saying to ignore you, right?

Then why are you responding to him?

[San Lumen]

what you consider news such as OANN, Brieibart and NewsMax espouses lies and half truths. For example calling the election rigged despite there being zero evidence it was. They are not not reliable source and just because you believe them to be so doesn't make it truth.

SL we strongly disagree with your post and views, many persons on the right say the same thing you say about leftist sources, are you surprised? are you shocked? are any of you surprised are any of you shocked?

GMS.

as usual a canned answer with zero substance.

here is proof OANN is not a reliable source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-amer ... s-network/

same for Breitbart: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

[Greater Miami Shores]

I don't ignore any Persons for their views for any reasons, I will never put any persons on ignore for any reasons. How would this Person above feel If I said the same about his views, how would this Person above feel if any Person said the same about his views? What would this Person above say? GMS.

I respect the democratic rights of any persons to express their views to me and anyone on and off NS, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called Democracy. GMS.

You know why I'm saying to ignore you, right?

No why, because I will not agree with views I strongly disagree with? We are all on NS to share our views on all issues, not to agree with each others different views.

[The Alma Mater]

what you consider news such as OANN, Brieibart and NewsMax espouses lies and half truths. For example calling the election rigged despite there being zero evidence it was. They are not not reliable source and just because you believe them to be so doesn't make it truth.

SL we strongly disagree with your post and views, many persons on the right say the same thing you say about leftist sources, are you surprised? are you shocked? are any of you surprised are any of you shocked?

GMS.

You can easily verify if a newssource is mostly spreading lies by verifying with primary sources. Say, when they report on a courtcase, you can just look up the courtcase. When they claim a building was attacked, you can look up if the building actually exists. If they claim a politician was arrested and in jail you can check if they are giving a live pressconference at that very moment very much not in jail. Etc. Etc.

Doing that shows newsmax mostly reports fantasy "which no reasonable person would believe". Their lack of factuality is not an opinion, it is something that can simply be measured. You can do that for every newssource. And should.

But let us be fair: we all know you won't.

[The Black Forrest]

Except that most Democracts are ready to criticize Biden when he makes mistakes, while most Republicans turn a blind eye to Trump bragging about sexual assault, praising white supremacists, blackmailing election officials to overturn the results, incitating a violent insurrection, or using federal funding to blackmail foreign officials into investigating his rivals, or countless over crimes he committed. So no, you can't draw a parallel at all.

But it's true it's not really "Democrats vs Republicans", it's more Trump-specific. Most Republicans did abandon Nixon, when it was obvious our crooked he was. Yet they stick to Trump despite him being orders of magnitude worse. That's what turns a political party into a cult. Trump himself said it - he could murder someone on the 5th avenue, and his "base" will still follow him. That's not politics, that's a cult.

We are Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, because we strongly agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues, as I have posted about in details many times. GMS.

Supporting the ex-president is one thing. Dismissing any claim against him; can’t find faults with him, etc. Is pretty cultish. If you find yourself saying fake news all the time. Kind of suggesting cultish attitudes. He has routinely ripped off his supporters (ie his legal defense fund) and they still support him. Oh and saying he says mean things sometimes is not a criticism.

You will find many democrats who support Biden have the ability to say he is full of crap on *some issue*. The cutists can’t do that.

Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; reuters and the AP are not leftist.

[Greater Miami Shores]

SL we strongly disagree with your post and views, many persons on the right say the same thing you say about leftist sources, are you surprised? are you shocked? are any of you surprised are any of you shocked?

GMS.

as usual a canned answer with zero substance.

here is proof OANN is not a reliable source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-amer ... s-network/

same for Breitbart: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

No my post has a lot of substance, many leftist say negative things about right wing media and many rightists say the same thing about leftist media, like MSNBC, The Progressive, Rachel Meadows and many more. Are you surprised and shocked, are any of you surprised and shocked?

[San Lumen]

We are Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, because we strongly agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues, as I have posted about in details many times. GMS.

Supporting the ex-president is one thing. Dismissing any claim against him; can’t find faults with him, etc. Is pretty cultish. If you find yourself saying fake news all the time. Kind of suggesting cultish attitudes. He has routinely ripped off his supporters (ie his legal defense fund) and they still support him. Oh and saying he says mean things sometimes is not a criticism.

You will find many democrats who support Biden have the ability to say he is full of crap on *some issue*. The cutists can’t do that.

Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; reuters and the AP are not leftist.

Reuters and AP have the highest possible rating on Mediabiasfactcheck of Least Biased.

[Untecna]

You know why I'm saying to ignore you, right?

Then why are you responding to him?

To tell him to ignore you, of course.

[San Lumen]

as usual a canned answer with zero substance.

here is proof OANN is not a reliable source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-amer ... s-network/

same for Breitbart: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

No my post has a lot of substance, many leftist say negative things about right wing media and many rightists say the same thing about leftist media, like MSNBC, The Progressive, Rachel Meadows and many more. Are you surprised and shocked, are any of you surprised and shocked?

No it doesn't. Your sources are not reliable and you have no argument other than to reverse the wording of the other person.

OAN and Breitbart are not reliable sources. News outlets that lie about election fraud have no credibility.

[Kilobugya]

SL we strongly disagree with your post and views, many persons on the right say the same thing you say about leftist sources, are you surprised? are you shocked? are any of you surprised are any of you shocked?

Some people say the Earth is round. Others say the Earth is flat. That doesn't mean the Earth is oblong, or that both point of view are equivalent. OANN and Fox News being full of lies is true regardless of people believing in those lies or not.

[The Black Forrest]

as usual a canned answer with zero substance.

here is proof OANN is not a reliable source: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/one-amer ... s-network/

same for Breitbart: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/breitbart/

No my post has a lot of substance, many leftist say negative things about right wing media and many rightists say the same thing about leftist media, like MSNBC, The Progressive, Rachel Meadows and many more. Are you surprised and shocked, are any of you surprised and shocked?

I am sure the followers of newsmax, breitbart and OANN do say that.

Still not really an argue which helps you out. You follow many “sources” which routinely fail on fact checks and spread conspiracies.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

What's the difference between Breitbart/OANN and Komsomolskaya Pravda/Krasnaya Zvezda other than an (alleged these days) difference in political views?

[Greater Miami Shores]

We are Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of the USA, because we strongly agree with President Trump and the Republicans on most issues, as I have posted about in details many times. GMS.

Supporting the ex-president is one thing. Dismissing any claim against him; can’t find faults with him, etc. Is pretty cultish. If you find yourself saying fake news all the time. Kind of suggesting cultish attitudes. He has routinely ripped off his supporters (ie his legal defense fund) and they still support him. Oh and saying he says mean things sometimes is not a criticism.

You will find many democrats who support Biden have the ability to say he is full of crap on *some issue*. The cutists can’t do that.

Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; reuters and the AP are not leftist.

Posted by The Black Forrest"
Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; Decided by whom you, those who strongly agree with you and any links you can come up with? This what many right wingers says about leftist news sources, like MSNBC, The Progressive, the Guardian, Rachel Meadows and many more. I ask again, are any of you surprised and shocked?

I have never seen Pro Trump Posts from you and the others, we are even.

[Senkaku]

What's the difference between Breitbart/OANN and Komsomolskaya Pravda/Krasnaya Zvezda other than an (alleged these days) difference in political views?

...what's the difference between two private digital media companies and two vast state-owned print enterprises...?

[San Lumen]

Supporting the ex-president is one thing. Dismissing any claim against him; can’t find faults with him, etc. Is pretty cultish. If you find yourself saying fake news all the time. Kind of suggesting cultish attitudes. He has routinely ripped off his supporters (ie his legal defense fund) and they still support him. Oh and saying he says mean things sometimes is not a criticism.

You will find many democrats who support Biden have the ability to say he is full of crap on *some issue*. The cutists can’t do that.

Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; reuters and the AP are not leftist.

Posted by The Black Forrest"
Oh an yes your “news” sources range from right wing to right wing conspiracy rags (ie OANN) and much has you keep trying to suggest; Decided by whom you, those who strongly agree with you and any links you can come up with? This what many right wingers says about leftist news sources, like MSNBC, The Progressive, the Guardian, Rachel Meadows and many more. I ask again, are any of you surprised and shocked?

I have never seen a Pro Trump Posts from you and the others, we are even.

From fact checkers. OANN reports lies and half truths. AP does not. They are rated least biased by Mediabiasfactcheck.

[Punished UMN]

What's the difference between Breitbart/OANN and Komsomolskaya Pravda/Krasnaya Zvezda other than an (alleged these days) difference in political views?

...what's the difference between two private digital media companies and two vast state-owned print enterprises...?

Also that the goal of Pravda especially was not to drum up support or spread outrage. It was the Communist Party newspaper, there was no need to do anything like that.

[Greater Miami Shores]

What's the difference between Breitbart/OANN and Komsomolskaya Pravda/Krasnaya Zvezda other than an (alleged these days) difference in political views?

What's the difference between MSNBC, The Guardian, The Progressive and the Cuban government Granma?