I said his claims could be true. Have you decided his claims are fake and lies? Have any of you decided his claims are fake and lies? My English is very good to read and understand.
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by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:21 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:23 pm
by Solarampa » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:25 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Solarampa wrote:Do you have any references from legitimate news sites that are posting fake news and/or lies? I would love to see evidence
He listed OOAN as one of his information sources. The others were various levels of conservative and or conspiracy sites. Nothing like Reuters or the AP......
by Zurkir » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:30 pm
Solarampa wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
He listed OOAN as one of his information sources. The others were various levels of conservative and or conspiracy sites. Nothing like Reuters or the AP......
Definitely can't trust someone who uses far-right networks to use as actual evidence. As for his claims, they could be true but I haven't seen I single legit liberal news site say that he is already guilty
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:30 pm
by Ifreann » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:30 pm
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:32 pm
Zurkir wrote:Solarampa wrote:
Definitely can't trust someone who uses far-right networks to use as actual evidence. As for his claims, they could be true but I haven't seen I single legit liberal news site say that he is already guilty
I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.
Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:33 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Solarampa wrote:Do you have any references from legitimate news sites that are posting fake news and/or lies? I would love to see evidence
He listed OOAN as one of his information sources. The others were various levels of conservative and or conspiracy sites. Nothing like Reuters or the AP......
by Necroghastia » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:34 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Zurkir wrote:
I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.
Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?
I can’t spell it seems. That should have been OANN as in the One America News Network. They deal with very right wing things and dance with conspiracies. Enough to where my family members who are rather conservative will tell you they are nutty.
by Kowani » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:34 pm
Colorado will give recent and future sexual assault survivors, including those molested as children, unlimited time to sue their abusers. But a separate effort to give victims of historic abuse an opportunity to take legal action remains pending and uncertain.
State lawmakers on Tuesday sent Senate Bill 73, which would eliminate the civil statute of limitations for sexual assault cases, to Gov. Jared Polis, who says he will sign the measure into law.
Legislation eliminating the civil statute of limitations for sexual assault cases has repeatedly failed in the Colorado General Assembly, including at least three times in the 15 years preceding the 2021 lawmaking term. But following a 2019 report on widespread child sexual abuse by Catholic priests in Colorado, the effort gained new steam.
"I’m truly speechless,” said state Rep. Matt Soper, a Delta Republican who championed the measure. “This is 30 years in the making.”
Under current law, child sex assault victims in Colorado have six years from the day they turn 18 to sue their abusers. Senate Bill 73 gives people for whom that six-year statute of limitations hasn’t run out and anyone abused after Jan. 1, 2022, unlimited time to file a lawsuit against their abuser or abusers.
The legislation does not affect victims of historic sexual abuse, such as those abused by Colorado priests decades ago. For criminal cases, there is no statute of limitations for child sex assault in Colorado." [...] Lawmakers made one last-minute change to Senate Bill 73, aligning the measure with Colorado’s criminal sexual assault laws to ensure the statute of limitations elimination only applies to felony and Class 1 misdemeanor cases.
“We wanted to make sure that we narrowed the scope of the sweep of this bill so that we only were catching up the worst of the worst,” Soper said, explaining that some lawmakers were worried that the bill would, for instance, allow people to file lawsuits against college streakers after decades.
Shelby Weiman, a spokeswoman for the governor, said Polis will sign the bill. The legislature is also debating Senate Bill 88, which would give historic victims of child sex abuse time to sue their abusers and institutions that may have covered up their crimes.
There are questions, however, about whether the legislation violates a clause in the Colorado constitution barring lawsuits from being filed in cases for which the statute of limitations has expired. State Sen. Bob Gardner, R-Colorado Springs, said he thinks the legislation has “serious constitutional issues” and that it’s likely to be struck down in court.
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:34 pm
Ifreann wrote:Based on a clip of him on Tucker Carlson, Gaetz's defence seems to be insisting that he did not travel with the minor in question. Which inclines me to believe that he believes that it can be proven that he was having sex with this girl, or at least that he can't plausibly deny it, but that it was technically legal for him to do so.
by Solarampa » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:34 pm
Zurkir wrote:Solarampa wrote:
Definitely can't trust someone who uses far-right networks to use as actual evidence. As for his claims, they could be true but I haven't seen I single legit liberal news site say that he is already guilty
I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far-right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.
Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?
by Kowani » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:39 pm
Zurkir wrote:Solarampa wrote:
Definitely can't trust someone who uses far-right networks to use as actual evidence. As for his claims, they could be true but I haven't seen I single legit liberal news site say that he is already guilty
I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.
Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?
by Ifreann » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:45 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Ifreann wrote:Based on a clip of him on Tucker Carlson, Gaetz's defence seems to be insisting that he did not travel with the minor in question. Which inclines me to believe that he believes that it can be proven that he was having sex with this girl, or at least that he can't plausibly deny it, but that it was technically legal for him to do so.
If he was paying for her to travel; it’s the same as if he traveled with her.
HIs problem is the federal and even his state’s laws have the age at 18 for legal consent.
by Major-Tom » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:46 pm
Ifreann wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
If he was paying for her to travel; it’s the same as if he traveled with her.
HIs problem is the federal and even his state’s laws have the age at 18 for legal consent.
From what I understand, the state age of consent laws are irrelevant for the purposes of federal sex trafficking laws. But I think that if Gaetz did not have sexual relations with that "woman" then I think he'd say so.
by Zurkir » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:49 pm
Solarampa wrote:Zurkir wrote:
I don’t know much about OAN myself but the terms “far-right” and “alt-right” painted with too broad a brush these days. I will say that.
Has OAN posted/released anything recently questionable for reference?
Well, an "election expert" said that the Georgia voting laws make the elections more fair and transparent.
https://www.oann.com/election-expert-new-ga-law-makes-elections-more-fair-and-transparent/
by Ifreann » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:49 pm
Major-Tom wrote:Ifreann wrote:From what I understand, the state age of consent laws are irrelevant for the purposes of federal sex trafficking laws. But I think that if Gaetz did not have sexual relations with that "woman" then I think he'd say so.
He has a reputation over on the Hill for being a gargantuan sleazebag.
by Greater Miami Shores » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:50 pm
The Black Forrest wrote:Greater Miami Shores wrote:I said his claims could be true. Have you decided his claims are fake and lies? Have any of you decided his claims are fake and lies? My English is very good to read and understand.
I have only started reading on this. If I had to guess....Gaetz has a very big problem. You see many states have statutory rape laws centering on 16 years of age. The Feds have it as 18. Theirs comes into play especially with what is alleged here. He paid to have her travel across state lines.
Now. He has a major problem if he was doing this. Florida’s statutory age is 18.
He is probably dumb and arrogant to think nobody will notice. He may have even been stupid enough to use funds to do this.
We shall see.
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:51 pm
Ifreann wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
If he was paying for her to travel; it’s the same as if he traveled with her.
HIs problem is the federal and even his state’s laws have the age at 18 for legal consent.
From what I understand, the state age of consent laws are irrelevant for the purposes of federal sex trafficking laws. But I think that if Gaetz did not have sexual relations with that "woman" then I think he'd say so.
by Kowani » Tue Mar 30, 2021 6:51 pm
Zurkir wrote:Solarampa wrote:Well, an "election expert" said that the Georgia voting laws make the elections more fair and transparent.
https://www.oann.com/election-expert-new-ga-law-makes-elections-more-fair-and-transparent/
What are those new laws like? I’m a bit behind on Georgia lately...
The Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, after more than 1.3 million Georgia voters used that option during the COVID-19 pandemic. It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed. [...]
One of the biggest changes in the bill would give the GOP-controlled legislature more control over election administration, a change that has raised concerns among voting rights groups that it could lead to greater partisan influence.The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature after Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rebuffed Trump’s attempts to overturn Georgia’s election results. It would also allow the board to remove and replace county election officials deemed to be underperforming. The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
by North Washington Republic » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:03 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
He listed OOAN as one of his information sources. The others were various levels of conservative and or conspiracy sites. Nothing like Reuters or the AP......
Who gets to decide which news sources are Fake News and True News? I don't decide for any persons, I read all right wing and leftist sources, I see and watch all videos posted by right wing sources and leftist sources.
All right wing sources and leftist sources post on all issues, there are actually more than just two news sources, there are many different news sources.
I will repeat myself like the broken record I am because the post response fits the post again and I don't care, a certain leftist person had the nerve to decide for me which news sources I should post from, comment from and link from, what a coincidence they all agree with his or hers leftists views, how dare I do the same for this leftist person to suggest news sources that agrees with my right wing views.
by The Black Forrest » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:09 pm
Greater Miami Shores wrote:The Black Forrest wrote:
He listed OOAN as one of his information sources. The others were various levels of conservative and or conspiracy sites. Nothing like Reuters or the AP......
Who gets to decide which news sources are Fake News and True News? I don't decide for any persons, I read all right wing and leftist sources, I see and watch all videos posted by right wing sources and leftist sources.
All right wing sources and leftist sources post on all issues, there are actually more than just two news sources, there are many different news sources.
I will repeat myself like the broken record I am because the post response fits the post again and I don't care, a certain leftist person had the nerve to decide for me which news sources I should post from, comment from and link from, what a coincidence they all agree with his or hers leftists views, how dare I do the same for this leftist person to suggest news sources that agrees with my right wing views.
by Kowani » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:12 pm
by Zurkir » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:12 pm
Kowani wrote:Zurkir wrote:
What are those new laws like? I’m a bit behind on Georgia lately...
a lotThe Georgia law requires a photo ID in order to vote absentee by mail, after more than 1.3 million Georgia voters used that option during the COVID-19 pandemic. It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed. [...]
One of the biggest changes in the bill would give the GOP-controlled legislature more control over election administration, a change that has raised concerns among voting rights groups that it could lead to greater partisan influence.The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature after Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rebuffed Trump’s attempts to overturn Georgia’s election results. It would also allow the board to remove and replace county election officials deemed to be underperforming. The bill also reduces the timeframe in which runoff elections are held, including the amount of early voting for runoffs. And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote.
“It also cuts the time people have to request an absentee ballot and limits where ballot drop boxes can be placed and when they can be accessed.”
” One of the biggest changes in the bill would give the GOP-controlled legislature more control over election administration,”
” The bill would replace the elected secretary of state as the chair of the state election board with a new appointee of the legislature after Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger rebuffed Trump’s attempts to overturn Georgia’s election results.”
”And it would bar outside groups from handing out food or water to people standing in line to vote.”
by Postauthoritarian America » Tue Mar 30, 2021 7:16 pm
Galloism wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
tfw it takes me 30 minutes to drive to the store and another 30 to get back home for food and people want to tax me for it now
Can't wait for the centrists to come along and tell me about how this world isn't a dystopia.
So as a way to fund road infrastructure, it's not a terrible idea in of itself. It's how the fuel tax works effectively - people who drive more pay more in road tax. People who drive heavier vehicles pay more in road tax (consuming more fuel).
It is rather difficult to administer compared with the proxy for it (fuel tax), and I don't see the reason to get rid of an easier method for a more difficult method, or, alternatively, adding the more difficult method when we could just increase the tax on the easier method.
Plus using the simpler method has a few side perks as well - more fuel efficient vehicles are effectively incentivized, as they are cheaper to operate.
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