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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Feb 14, 2021 6:59 am

ImperialRussia wrote:It’s seems that 2000 dollar check what Joe Biden promised was not true

I really have not been following the details on it. I have had other very important issues to follow in great details. But I could come back on it at any time.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:00 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I know and that's the point. All this talk about "Castro is a tyrant" is just cover for "he made me stop owning half the land in Cuba." When Batista was being a dictator that let his own people starve, that was perfectly fine I guess.

I don't want to discuss Cuba and the Castro's with any of you in great details. This is not the proper thread for it.

I will discuss Cuba in details on my next anti Cuban government thread at the proper time. I think this has gotten off topic and can be considered a thread jack. A little bid on Cuba and other issues is usually allowed, especially when you link it to US, Cuba relations.

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Why wait?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:05 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I don't want to discuss Cuba and the Castro's with any of you in great details. This is not the proper thread for it.

I will discuss Cuba in details on my next anti Cuban government thread at the proper time. I think this has gotten off topic and can be considered a thread jack. A little bid on Cuba and other issues is usually allowed, especially when you link it to US, Cuba relations.

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Why wait?

Dude, you once told me on a Trump issue I had posted on the wrong thread by accident, that I had posted it on the wrong thread, this is not the proper thread for it, and I thanked you for it and I confirmed to you, that I had posted it on the wrong thread by accident. I don't want you, me or any persons to get in trouble with the Mod Gods, :) lol, for a threadjack.

Thank you Rojava, you have never put me on ignore when we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump, Cuba or any issues. You have never told any person to put me on ignore.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:10 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Why wait?

Dude, you once told me on a Trump issue I had posted on the wrong thread, I posted it by accident on the wrong thread, this is not the proper thread for it, and I thanked you for it and I confirmed to you, that I had posted it on the wrong thread by accident. I don't want you, me or any persons to get in trouble with the Mod Gods, :) lol, for a threadjack.

Thank you Rojava, you have never put me on ignore when we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump, Cuba or any issues. You have never told any person to put me on ignore.

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By why wait I meant start the cuba thread. But I started it.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:16 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Dude, you once told me on a Trump issue I had posted on the wrong thread, I posted it by accident on the wrong thread, this is not the proper thread for it, and I thanked you for it and I confirmed to you, that I had posted it on the wrong thread by accident. I don't want you, me or any persons to get in trouble with the Mod Gods, :) lol, for a threadjack.

Thank you Rojava, you have never put me on ignore when we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump, Cuba or any issues. You have never told any person to put me on ignore.

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By why wait I meant start the cuba thread. But I started it.

oh no, no offense dude, I am waiting until something hot concerning Cuba happens. But I always love to create polls on all threads and issues, and as a native Cuban and American citizen, I think I know the best pro and con questions to ask. I should be the one to start the Cuba threads :(

My last back and forth post on this on this thread.

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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:35 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He likes being a victim?


*Claiming* he is one, yes. Not getting award X, not being on the cover of magazine Y, not winning election Z - everything is the result of mean people conspiring against him. Whine, cry, gimme love and attention.

I doubt he would like being an actual victim.

So in short: Donald Trump likes being a whinging bitch?

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:44 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He likes being a victim?


*Claiming* he is one, yes. Not getting award X, not being on the cover of magazine Y, not winning election Z - everything is the result of mean people conspiring against him. Whine, cry, gimme love and attention.

I doubt he would like being an actual victim.


Or finding that actions have consequences, as we have already seen in regards to his twitter ban.
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Postby Celritannia » Sun Feb 14, 2021 7:51 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
This does not mean anything.
Sure the US has other parties, but if you want to get elected you have to join the 2 big ones.

Again, forcing your representatives to vote with the party line is wanting a party dictatorship.
People have the right to think for themselves and not base everything on the party. That's what dictators do.

Do you like democracy?

ok. Yes I like democracy. I support a multi political party system of more than 2 political parties.


You love democracy, yet call the Republican party members who voted against trump traitors and preferred for them to vote to acquit Trump.
By saying that, you are calling for a party dictatorship, and remove the republican legislators to vote democratically based on the accounts and evidence provided at the trial.

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:14 am

Celritannia wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:ok. Yes I like democracy. I support a multi political party system of more than 2 political parties.


You love democracy, yet call the Republican party members who voted against trump traitors and preferred for them to vote to acquit Trump.
By saying that, you are calling for a party dictatorship, and remove the republican legislators to vote democratically based on the accounts and evidence provided at the trial.


This is more amusing because he even said the following:

We are on NS to share our views on all issues, with respect towards each other, this respect is given it is not earned, this respect is called democracy.


Apparently that respect is only skin-deep.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:18 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
*Claiming* he is one, yes. Not getting award X, not being on the cover of magazine Y, not winning election Z - everything is the result of mean people conspiring against him. Whine, cry, gimme love and attention.

I doubt he would like being an actual victim.

So in short: Donald Trump likes being a whinging bitch?


Yeah he loves to complain about things.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:32 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So in short: Donald Trump likes being a whinging bitch?


Yeah he loves to complain about things.


If you looked like Boss Nass with tiny hands then you'd be pissed off too.

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Postby The Caleshan Valkyrie » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:39 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Yeah he loves to complain about things.


If you looked like Boss Nass with tiny hands then you'd be pissed off too.


And now I have a mental image of Trump doing that freaky slobber-flinging headshake.

I can now see him in no other way.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:50 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
He likes being a victim?


*Claiming* he is one, yes. Not getting award X, not being on the cover of magazine Y, not winning election Z - everything is the result of mean people conspiring against him. Whine, cry, gimme love and attention.

I doubt he would like being an actual victim.


I think you are right. It is a convenient fallacy to think that deeply flawed people are simple by nature. Their thinking may be "simple" in the sense of stupid, but it is not "simple" in the sense of predictable. I believe Trump was a child of well above-average "native intelligence" but lacking the nerd's knack of become good at any one kind of thinking. Always intent on proving himself smarter than other people, at expense of ever becoming good at anything. He probably had an excellent memory (not essential to high intelligence, but definitely enabling of it), enabling him to pass courses when he had to, but not put to good use with expertise ... except maybe in the junk science of Economics.

Why would I recognize Trump as such a dire "waste of talent"? Different circumstances. I wasn't given a million dollars to follow my dreams out of high school, then a billion more as I learned to take financial advice. But I was given board and lodging for as long as I could keep passing the courses of my choice at the university of my choice, without any debt accruing to me. Almost no-one gets that (unless a mom-and-dad scholarship is somehow not considered accruing debt) and I shamefully wasted it. Trump and I are alike, in that we were both spoiled for opportunity young in life. But unlike him, I have the humility to admit I fucked up.

The pattern of epic failure followed by tragic downfall fits the picture of a massively spoiled young man who could never do well enough to earn praise from his father. Also dependence on said father to keep young Donald's head above water. But what completes the picture of President Trump is fixation on a person almost never mentioned: Mary Trump his mother. I haven't read the biography by the other Mary Trump but I'm sure it gives insight in Donald's relationship with his mother. I suspect her influence accounts for Donald's lifelong resentment of the cruel dealings Donald had to get involved in, to follow his father's footsteps and earn success in a way he would approve of.

Real estate speculation is a cruel world. Perhaps we can see a trace of virtue in Donald Trump not being that good at it despite years of subsidized attempts. Certainly in his move away from residential (Fred's business) to commercial (time-shares, hotels and casinos). Being President at all must surely exceed any expectations his father might have had, so now perhaps he will have a complete change of heart and try to win the love of his dead mother. Hoping.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Sun Feb 14, 2021 8:50 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
By why wait I meant start the cuba thread. But I started it.

oh no, no offense dude, I am waiting until something hot concerning Cuba happens. But I always love to create polls on all threads and issues, and as a native Cuban and American citizen, I think I know the best pro and con questions to ask. I should be the one to start the Cuba threads :(

My last back and forth post on this on this thread.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:05 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:So in short: Donald Trump likes being a whinging bitch?


Yeah he loves to complain about things.


He has a very thin skin. I think most of his life he tried to be kind to individuals, for fear of having his own feelings hurt, but learned a bad lesson in show business. He could be insulting and make harsh judgements of others ... and get rewarded with applause.

Then President Obama made fun of him from the podium.
Then tiresome political stuff happened.
Then President Trump called for treason from the podium.
Then we all live happily ever after?
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:13 am

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Greater Miami Shores wrote:oh no, no offense dude, I am waiting until something hot concerning Cuba happens. ...

theres no rule stating that something needs to happen for you to start a thread on it


Of course not. However, GMS should bear in mind that bumping a thread is considered spamming. When it's the OP posting twice in a row after half a day, Mods are likely to notice if an "update from the news" is dated 2015 ...
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Postby Istoreya » Sun Feb 14, 2021 9:35 am

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
*Claiming* he is one, yes. Not getting award X, not being on the cover of magazine Y, not winning election Z - everything is the result of mean people conspiring against him. Whine, cry, gimme love and attention.

I doubt he would like being an actual victim.

So in short: Donald Trump likes being a whinging bitch?

Is anyone surprised?

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:27 am

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Just saw this and I gotta say, Trump must be more full of shit than any human being has ever been before. Someone please prescribe this man some pills to deal with all that constipation.

I mean seriously law and order? Witch hunt? He was basically the CEO of domestic terrorism and violence and he's once again on his law and order shtick that no one with a functioning frontal cortex would fall for. Shit even his fans know he isn't pro "law and order." He's pro beating back the leftists and minorities with a militarized police force turned gestapo, and meanwhile his fans can do whatever they feel like doing and it's a-okay. Ever notice the difference in response between when the capitol building was stormed and when some random dollar tree got looted last summer? The capitol assailants are "beautiful" and "really special" while all the racial justice protesters, peaceful or not, are "rioters, communists, terrorists, looters, animals, antifa, radicals" etc etc I could go on all day on Trump's disdain for left wing demonstrators. God willing this embarrassment and degenerate will be in a prison cell by 2022 for the rest of his life, and I hope it's solitary confinement just so I don't have to listen to this guy rant and rave about all his crazy, delusional thoughts.
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Postby Ifreann » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:33 am

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San Lumen wrote:Don’t be so sure. I worry if Republicans take congress next year a Democrat is elected in 2024 they will refuse to certify and allow them to take office.


Then we ban the GOP and declare it a terrorist organization. It's a win-win.

Who exactly are you expecting to make that declaration? The same people who can't get an absurdly incompetent wannabe dictator like Trump to suffer even the mildest consequences for his many, many crimes? The next Trump need only make a token show of civility and Pelosi will hand him a Get Out Of Impeachment Free card.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Feb 14, 2021 10:35 am

Ifreann wrote:
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Then we ban the GOP and declare it a terrorist organization. It's a win-win.

Who exactly are you expecting to make that declaration? The same people who can't get an absurdly incompetent wannabe dictator like Trump to suffer even the mildest consequences for his many, many crimes? The next Trump need only make a token show of civility and Pelosi will hand him a Get Out Of Impeachment Free card.


Just imagine what would have happened had Trump not burned bridges with the military or the press. That's a scary thought.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:00 am

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San Lumen wrote:Don’t be so sure. I worry if Republicans take congress next year a Democrat is elected in 2024 they will refuse to certify and allow them to take office.


Then we ban the GOP and declare it a terrorist organization. It's a win-win.

lets not do that
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Sun Feb 14, 2021 11:01 am

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San Lumen wrote:Don’t be so sure. I worry if Republicans take congress next year a Democrat is elected in 2024 they will refuse to certify and allow them to take office.


Then we ban the GOP and declare it a terrorist organization. It's a win-win.

Not how it works, old sport.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:05 pm

GMS:

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Again, we strongly disagree on Republican President Trump. I don't have any problems that we strongly disagree on this issue.


Wasted words as you have well established you have no problems with anything the ex-president does.

No you are 100 % wrong. I have stated on 2 or more of my posts, I wish I could have gone with my Cuban and American friends, they did not storm the Capitol Building or commit any acts of violence and neither would I.


It is irrelevant that you and your friends didn't attack the capitol. The fact remains many did and many have said they did it because of what the ex-president said.

They were not influenced by speech or President Trump to commit any violence.


The ones who attacked the capital were influenced by the ex-presidents words. Many if not all arrested have stated this.

President Trump said Protest Peacefully and Patriotically. Not Protest violently.


That is a lie. He grudgingly tweeted that two hours after the fact. They have him on tape being all happy and giddy the attack was going on.

I have condemned the violence on the Capitol Building. I have condemned the bad cops who killed black African Americans like George Floyd.


That's nice. It really doesn't have any value when you defend the ex-president and his efforts to motivate the attack.

I condemned right violence and left wing violence by those certain few persons who participated in the violence in Democrat run cities with Democrat mayor. I have condemned both sides.

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* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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Postby The Black Forrest » Sun Feb 14, 2021 12:07 pm

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Don’t be so sure. I worry if Republicans take congress next year a Democrat is elected in 2024 they will refuse to certify and allow them to take office.


Then we ban the GOP and declare it a terrorist organization. It's a win-win.


Wouldn't it be easier to rename them to GOPOQ

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* There is actually a War on Christmas. But Christmas started it, with it's unparalleled aggression against the Thanksgiving Holiday, and now Christmas has seized much Lebensraum in November, and are pushing into October. The rest of us seek to repel these invaders, and push them back to the status quo ante bellum Black Friday border. -Trotskylvania
* Silence Is Golden But Duct Tape Is Silver.
* I felt like Ayn Rand cornered me at a party, and three minutes in I found my first objection to what she was saying, but she kept talking without interruption for ten more days. - Max Barry talking about Atlas Shrugged

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