American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[Dresderstan]

Gun control, especially after last year had record amount of people buying guns, especially among the African-American community and they still won't shut about "buh guns bad" all it does is alienate voters and rally the GOP.

Yes mass shootings should just be accepted as routine even though no other country has this problem.

Keep pretending that's what I meant while you continue to peddle lies and falsehoods.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

How many people were sent to prison and lost the right to vote under laws signed by Clinton and Obama? That's voter suppression too.

yes and those are slowly being changed.

Don't worry guys they're slowly gonna fix the problem they created.

[Ifreann]

How many people were sent to prison and lost the right to vote under laws signed by Clinton and Obama? That's voter suppression too.

yes and those are slowly being changed.

So you agree, the Democrats have been suppressing votes and are anti-freedom. There, that was easy.

[San Lumen]

Yes mass shootings should just be accepted as routine even though no other country has this problem.

Keep pretending that's what I meant while you continue to peddle lies and falsehoods.

What should be done about gun violence in America?

[Dresderstan]

yes and those are slowly being changed.

Don't worry guys they're slowly gonna fix the problem they created.

In 20 years time, meaning nothing has really changed.

[San Lumen]

Don't worry guys they're slowly gonna fix the problem they created.

In 20 years time, meaning nothing has really changed.

Things don't change overnight. It took until 2019 for Democrats to retake power in Virginia and expand Voting Rights. Republicans were never doing to do it.

How did Democrats get the majority in the legislature after losing it in 1999? Population growth in Northern Virginia and the Richmond Metro area as well as changing demographics. Virginia Beach is also no longer a Republican stronghold.

[Kilobugya]

So you agree, the Democrats have been suppressing votes and are anti-freedom. There, that was easy.

For myself I definitely agree they did in the past and still do to a point. Just not nearly at the same level than the GOP. It's like one is stealing flowers and fruits from your backyard, the other is breaking your front door and stealing all your electronics.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

So you agree, the Democrats have been suppressing votes and are anti-freedom. There, that was easy.

For myself I definitely agree they did in the past and still do to a point. Just nearly at the same level than the GOP. It's like one is stealing flowers and fruits from your backyard, the other is breaking your front door and stealing all your electronics.

The Democrats break your windows and teepee your trees. The Republicans light your whole house on fire.

[Kilobugya]

The Democrats break your windows and teepee your trees. The Republicans light your whole house on fire.

That's probably more accurate than my initial image for the "moderates" (like Clinton/Obama/Biden), not for the "progressists" like Sanders or AOC.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I'd like to remind everyone who commits Whataboutism whenever the GOP is criticized that the Democrats have never tried to stage a fucking coup and until they do the two parties are not equal.

Dems are bad. GOP is worse. Deal with it.

[San Lumen]

I'd like to remind everyone who commits Whataboutism whenever the GOP is criticized that the Democrats have never tried to stage a fucking coup and until they do the two parties are not equal.

Dems are bad. GOP is worse. Deal with it.

Democrats also are not actively trying to make it harder to vote.

[Odreria]

I'd like to remind everyone who commits Whataboutism whenever the GOP is criticized that the Democrats have never tried to stage a fucking coup and until they do the two parties are not equal.

Dems are bad. GOP is worse. Deal with it.

Democrats also arent actively trying to make it harder to vote.

if you take the "nt" off of the end of "arent" it sounds like you're saying that democrats are making it harder to vote.

[Dresderstan]

I'd like to remind everyone who commits Whataboutism whenever the GOP is criticized that the Democrats have never tried to stage a fucking coup and until they do the two parties are not equal.

Dems are bad. GOP is worse. Deal with it.

Democrats also arent actively trying to make it harder to vote.

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms. Their is no "lesser of two evils" they're both two sides of the same coin. Why side with one or the other, both deserve to be fucked regardless.

[Ifreann]

The Democrats break your windows and teepee your trees. The Republicans light your whole house on fire.

That's probably more accurate than my initial image for the "moderates" (like Clinton/Obama/Biden), not for the "progressists" like Sanders or AOC.

The word is "progressive".

[San Lumen]

Democrats also arent actively trying to make it harder to vote.

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms. Their is no "lesser of two evils" they're both two sides of the same coin. Why side with one or the other, both deserve to be fucked regardless.

There should be no gun laws whatsoever then?

I will also remind you Restrictive voting laws were ended in Virginia after democrats retook power in Virginia after being out of power for 20 years. What made that happen? Changing demographics and population growth in Northern Virginia and the Richmond metro area. Plus Virginia Beach is also no longer a Republican stronghold.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Democrats also arent actively trying to make it harder to vote.

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms. Their is no "lesser of two evils" they're both two sides of the same coin. Why side with one or the other, both deserve to be fucked regardless.

"You're both the same!" cries the centrist at the protester vandalizing a trash can and the rioter slitting people's throats.

[Kilobugya]

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms.

Except that's not a right at all, except in a highly dubious interpretation of an obsolete part of a broken Constitution, in the imagination of a minority of people from a twisted "each of his own" gun-worshiping culture.

And comparing that to the fundamental right to vote is utterly sick.

[Dresderstan]

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms. Their is no "lesser of two evils" they're both two sides of the same coin. Why side with one or the other, both deserve to be fucked regardless.

There should be no gun laws whatsoever then?

I will also remind you Restrictive voting laws were ended in Virginia after democrats retook power in Virginia after being out of power for 20 years. What made that happen? Changing demographics and population growth in Northern Virginia and the Richmond metro area. Plus Virginia Beach is also no longer a Republican stronghold.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Does that answer your question?

Your point? Your party is still nothing more than a bunch of gun grabbers who spit in the face of the 2nd amendment. Don't act like your party is all innocent and freedom loving when you want to restrict people's 2nd amendment rights. You want the GOP to run on ending democracy, then your party should run on ending gun rights. It's win win.

[Dresderstan]

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms. Their is no "lesser of two evils" they're both two sides of the same coin. Why side with one or the other, both deserve to be fucked regardless.

"You're both the same!" cries the centrist at the protester vandalizing a trash can and the rioter slitting people's throats.

Better than the snobby high horse partisan taking the lazy way and doing nothing as nothing continues to get done.

[Kilobugya]

"You're both the same!" cries the centrist at the protester vandalizing a trash can and the rioter slitting people's throats.

Yep, exactly as I said, fallacy of gray. Or as (best writer of all times, IMHO) Isaac Asimov so rightfully said

John, when people thought the earth was flat, they were wrong. When people thought the earth was spherical, they were wrong. But if you think that thinking the earth is spherical is just as wrong as thinking the earth is flat, then your view is wronger than both of them put together.

[Washington Resistance Army]

Yet they are trying to suppress people's right to bear arms.

Except that's not a right at all, except in a highly dubious interpretation of an obsolete part of a broken Constitution, in the imagination of a minority of people from a twisted "each of his own" gun-worshiping culture.

And comparing that to the fundamental right to vote is utterly sick.

There's nothing highly dubious about that interpretation if you understand English as it was written then. Which is really easy because there's lot of supporting documents and even dictionaries from the time.

[San Lumen]

There should be no gun laws whatsoever then?

I will also remind you Restrictive voting laws were ended in Virginia after democrats retook power in Virginia after being out of power for 20 years. What made that happen? Changing demographics and population growth in Northern Virginia and the Richmond metro area. Plus Virginia Beach is also no longer a Republican stronghold.

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Does that answer your question?

Your point? Your party is still nothing more than a bunch of gun grabbers who spit in the face of the 2nd amendment. Don't act like your party is all innocent and freedom loving when you want to restrict people's 2nd amendment rights. You want the GOP to run on ending democracy, then your party should run on ending gun rights. It's win win.

except they dont want to end gun rights. You dont have a right to any and all firearms. You therefore think there should be no gun laws whatsoever. Thats; a fringe position not supported by even a large number of Republicans.

Comparing gun rights to the fundamental right to vote is ludicrous. My point was you didn't like that certain restrictive voting rights laws were passed under Clinton and took Democrats retaking power in the legislature to repeal them.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

"You're both the same!" cries the centrist at the protester vandalizing a trash can and the rioter slitting people's throats.

Better than the snobby high horse partisan taking the lazy way and doing nothing as nothing continues to get done.

Nah. When it comes down to it, partisans and centrists actually are the same level of destructive to our political system.

[Dresderstan]

"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.” Does that answer your question?

Your point? Your party is still nothing more than a bunch of gun grabbers who spit in the face of the 2nd amendment. Don't act like your party is all innocent and freedom loving when you want to restrict people's 2nd amendment rights. You want the GOP to run on ending democracy, then your party should run on ending gun rights. It's win win.

except they dont want to end gun rights. You dont have a right to any and all firearms.

Comparing gun rights to the fundamental right to vote is ludicrous. My point was you didn't like that certain restrictive voting rights laws were passed under Clinton and took Democrats retaking power in the legislature to repeal them.

I should, and very well do.

No they are one and the same. Voting is one way to get a government in action, violent revolution against tyrants is the same.

[San Lumen]

except they dont want to end gun rights. You dont have a right to any and all firearms.

Comparing gun rights to the fundamental right to vote is ludicrous. My point was you didn't like that certain restrictive voting rights laws were passed under Clinton and took Democrats retaking power in the legislature to repeal them.

I should, and very well do.

No they are one and the same. Voting is one way to get a government in action, violent revolution against tyrants is the same.

No gun laws whatsoever then. That's a fringe position not even most Republicans support.

They are not the same.