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Postby Punished UMN » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:16 pm

Kowani wrote:
Punished UMN wrote:I would just like the say that yours truly predicted the Matt Gaetz thing. I was telling Nap and Fahran like a month ago "Matt Gaetz looks like the kind of guy who would commit a sex crime", they both said I was being unfair, but now look who is vindicated.

What’s next week’s lottery numbers?

Sorry, my cognitive prescience is limited to determining which people on TV are sex criminals based on their appearance. I believe I inherited this from my father, who can tell who on TV is wearing a toupee (pro-tip, it's like half the guys on Fox News).
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:16 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:This reminds me of the claims against Cuban American Democrat Senator from New Jersey, Robert Bob Menendez:
Attempted implication in prostitution scandal
In November 2012, the conservative political news and opinion website Daily Caller published allegations that Menendez had contact with underage prostitutes in the Dominican Republic.[166][167] The allegations were promoted by Republican Party operatives, who arranged interviews for two women accusing Menendez of patronizing prostitutes with ABC News and the Daily Caller.[168] However, ABC News and other news organizations such as The New York Times, and the New York Post declined to publish the allegations, viewing them as unsubstantiated and lacking credibility.[167][168][169] One accuser stated that she had been paid to falsely implicate the Senator and had never met him.[168][170] The Daily Caller says this woman was not interviewed for their story.[171] Menendez's office described the allegations as "manufactured" by a "right-wing blog" as a politically motivated smear.[172] On March 18, 2013, Dominican police announced that three women had said they had been paid $300–425 each to lie about having had sex with Menendez.[173]
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Why cant any of you answer the easy questions? I answered it.

1 - This should not be about Republicans, Democrats or whatevers, Yes or no and your comments? I agree

3 - Lets all hope the claims against Democrat Senator Robert Bob Menedez are false and fake, so it means the claims did not happen? I hope the claims against Democrat Senator Robert Bob Menendez are false and fake so the claims against him never happend.

2 - Lets all hope the claims against Republican Matt Gaetz are false and fake, so it means the claims did not happen? I hope the claims against Republican Matt Gaetz are false and fake, so the claims against him never happend.

Please answer the easy questions, thank you.


Did you even read your example on Menedez? That affair is over.

The problem with your example? Gaetz has the DOJ and the FBI looking into it. Menedez had the republicans looking into it.

You can all still hope the claims against Republican Matt Gaetz are fake and false, so the claims on the guy and girl never happened? To all of you please answer the question, thank you?
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Postby Eahland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:26 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Galloism wrote:Matthew Lyon was elected to congress while in prison.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Lyon

Early US political history is a trip, btw.


Hmm from Kentucky......

Vermont at the time. He was imprisoned under the Sedition Act for publishing letters critical of President Adams I. The Green Mountain Boys threatened to raze the prison to break him out, and probably only didn't go through with it because Lyon himself called for peace. He was re-elected in a landslide while in prison.

Because :vermont:.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:43 pm


See Republicans and Democrats challenge election results, and they have right to challenge them if they believe there has been fraud against them or any election irregularities.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:43 pm

Eahland wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
Hmm from Kentucky......

Vermont at the time. He was imprisoned under the Sedition Act for publishing letters critical of President Adams I. The Green Mountain Boys threatened to raze the prison to break him out, and probably only didn't go through with it because Lyon himself called for peace. He was re-elected in a landslide while in prison.

Because :vermont:.


Well that was a duh. :D It would of helped to read vs a quick skim.
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Postby Kilobugya » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:49 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:See Republicans and Democrats challenge election results, and they have right to challenge them if they believe there has been fraud against them or any election irregularities.


Except Democrats challenge election results when things are super close (6 votes, or a few hundred for the 2000 Bush/Gore elections) and with detailed evidence of something fishy/unclear, not when the results are large enough (tens of thousands) and there is no evidence of significant fraud whatsoever. Again your attempt to put them on the same level fails when considering facts and evidence.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:53 pm

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Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Better idea: how about we just not let convicted criminals serve at all without the need to "vote" on their expulsion.

Tell me more about how someone who smokes the Devil's lettuce ought to lose the right to hold elected office.


1. I don't think that should be a crime to begin with, and if you knew me at all you'd know that.

2. I originally meant to refer to those who were currently in jail; not ex-cons. I didn't have time to clarify or respond earlier as I was on my last break when I wrote that post.
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:55 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Tell me more about how someone who smokes the Devil's lettuce ought to lose the right to hold elected office.


1. I don't think that should be a crime to begin with, and if you knew me at all you'd know that.

2. I originally meant to refer to those who were currently in jail; not ex-cons. I didn't have time to clarify or respond earlier as I was on my last break when I wrote that post.

I do think that political related crimes should bar one from public office.
Accepting bribes, fraud, charges of corruption. That sort of thing.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:55 pm

Kilobugya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:See Republicans and Democrats challenge election results, and they have right to challenge them if they believe there has been fraud against them or any election irregularities.

Except Democrats challenge election results when things are super close (6 votes, or a few hundred for the 2000 Bush/Gore elections) and with detailed evidence of something fishy/unclear, not when the results are large enough (tens of thousands) and there is no evidence of significant fraud whatsoever. Again your attempt to put them on the same level fails when considering facts and evidence.

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=cs ... &FORM=VIRE

https://www.bing.com/search?q=cspa2+vid ... 337e4aa4e3

I posted a video link from CSPAN2 of Democrats like Nancy Pelosi, President Obama, Hillary Clinton, Barbara Boxer, Stefany Tubbs Jones and other Democrats objecting to the electoral college votes against Republican President Trump, while claiming Republican vote fraud, I posted a video link of Democrats objecting to the electoral college votes against Republican George W Bush, while claiming Republican vote fraud, Saying the same exact and or similar words Republicans used to object to the electoral college votes for Biden. Not even one of the Democrats and Democrat supporters criticized them for doing so, but all of you can still criticize them right here and now for doing the exact same thing the Republicans did, Please do so right here and now, thank you all?
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Mar 31, 2021 1:57 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:“I don’t think it’s appropriate to have those two states to set the tone." Democrats could dethrone Iowa. The party, uncomfortable with the overwhelmingly white state's sway, is thinking about blowing up its presidential primary calendar.

Both South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn and former Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid are making the push, with more Southern States & Rust Belt States going earlier though it is believe that either Nevada or South Carolina could be one of the first two States to start the Democratic Primary.


Good enough, Iowa needs to abandon the caucus anyway, maybe forcing them down the calendar will do it.

Just get rid of the goddamn primaries entirely and give us a shorter campaign season instead of one lasting nearly a full year or more.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:13 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Zurkerx wrote:“I don’t think it’s appropriate to have those two states to set the tone." Democrats could dethrone Iowa. The party, uncomfortable with the overwhelmingly white state's sway, is thinking about blowing up its presidential primary calendar.

Both South Carolina Rep. Jim Clyburn and former Sen. Majority Leader Harry Reid are making the push, with more Southern States & Rust Belt States going earlier though it is believe that either Nevada or South Carolina could be one of the first two States to start the Democratic Primary.


Good enough, Iowa needs to abandon the caucus anyway, maybe forcing them down the calendar will do it.

I hate the stupid caucus process on the Democrats and Republicans side. I think the Primaries Process is the best way to choose the Democrat and Republican candidates.
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:16 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Good enough, Iowa needs to abandon the caucus anyway, maybe forcing them down the calendar will do it.

Just get rid of the goddamn primaries entirely and give us a shorter campaign season instead of one lasting nearly a full year or more.


Hmm...you're not going to get the people to support that.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:20 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
1. I don't think that should be a crime to begin with, and if you knew me at all you'd know that.

2. I originally meant to refer to those who were currently in jail; not ex-cons. I didn't have time to clarify or respond earlier as I was on my last break when I wrote that post.

I do think that political related crimes should bar one from public office.
Accepting bribes, fraud, charges of corruption. That sort of thing.


Well, yes, obviously.
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Postby Dresderstan » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:20 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:Just get rid of the goddamn primaries entirely and give us a shorter campaign season instead of one lasting nearly a full year or more.


Hmm...you're not going to get the people to support that.

We don't need campaigns lasting so goddamn long with primaries stretched out over the spring into summer, if your going to have a primary, have a nationwide primary in September and the campaign season being two months long at best.

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Postby Shrillland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:23 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Hmm...you're not going to get the people to support that.

We don't need campaigns lasting so goddamn long with primaries stretched out over the spring into summer, if your going to have a primary, have a nationwide primary in September and the campaign season being two months long at best.


That would work. Alas, now you have the states to contend with, too tied up in their own self-importance to accept such an idea. And alas, the states have final say over the minutiae of elections. The Feds can only force them not to deny voters, and even that's hamstrung pretty hard.
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Postby Eahland » Wed Mar 31, 2021 2:38 pm

Dresderstan wrote:
Shrillland wrote:Good enough, Iowa needs to abandon the caucus anyway, maybe forcing them down the calendar will do it.

Just get rid of the goddamn primaries entirely and give us a shorter campaign season instead of one lasting nearly a full year or more.

Get rid of the primaries and you might as well just choose representatives by lot, because you end up electing whichever random candidate hacks out the least tiny minority of the vote in the resulting free-for-all, which has more to do with how many candidates are on each side than who actually supports them.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:02 pm

Genivaria wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
1. I don't think that should be a crime to begin with, and if you knew me at all you'd know that.

2. I originally meant to refer to those who were currently in jail; not ex-cons. I didn't have time to clarify or respond earlier as I was on my last break when I wrote that post.

I do think that political related crimes should bar one from public office.
Accepting bribes, fraud, charges of corruption. That sort of thing.

Good Point.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:17 pm

I posted once or twice I hope the claims against Democrat Biden hair sniffing and worse are false. But I have not seen any of you guys and ladies post I hope the charges against Republican Matt Gaetz are false, please post it now, thank you?
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Microsoft wins $21.88 billion Army contract to manufacture 120K augmented-reality headsets

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Microsoft said in its own press release that the company "has worked closely with the U.S. Army over the past two years, and together we pioneered Soldier Centered Design to enable rapid prototyping for a product to provide Soldiers with the tools and capabilities necessary to achieve their mission."
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Postby Umeria » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:32 pm

Kowani wrote:Microsoft wins $21.88 billion Army contract to manufacture 120K augmented-reality headsets

The Army hardware is called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System (IVAS). An Army press release notes that IVAS will allow "multiple technologies into an architecture that allows the Soldier to Fight, Rehearse, and Train using a single platform."

Microsoft said in its own press release that the company "has worked closely with the U.S. Army over the past two years, and together we pioneered Soldier Centered Design to enable rapid prototyping for a product to provide Soldiers with the tools and capabilities necessary to achieve their mission."

But the deficit! How are we going to pay for this?
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Postby Genivaria » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:39 pm

Umeria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Microsoft wins $21.88 billion Army contract to manufacture 120K augmented-reality headsets

The Army hardware is called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System (IVAS). An Army press release notes that IVAS will allow "multiple technologies into an architecture that allows the Soldier to Fight, Rehearse, and Train using a single platform."

Microsoft said in its own press release that the company "has worked closely with the U.S. Army over the past two years, and together we pioneered Soldier Centered Design to enable rapid prototyping for a product to provide Soldiers with the tools and capabilities necessary to achieve their mission."

But the deficit! How are we going to pay for this?

Where will the money come from!?

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Genivaria wrote:
Umeria wrote:But the deficit! How are we going to pay for this?

Where will the money come from!?

The NORAD strategic coordination supercomputer is mining Bitcoins for the DoD.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:54 pm

Umeria wrote:
Kowani wrote:Microsoft wins $21.88 billion Army contract to manufacture 120K augmented-reality headsets

The Army hardware is called the Integrated Visual Augmentation System (IVAS). An Army press release notes that IVAS will allow "multiple technologies into an architecture that allows the Soldier to Fight, Rehearse, and Train using a single platform."

Microsoft said in its own press release that the company "has worked closely with the U.S. Army over the past two years, and together we pioneered Soldier Centered Design to enable rapid prototyping for a product to provide Soldiers with the tools and capabilities necessary to achieve their mission."

But the deficit! How are we going to pay for this?

Raise Taxes $.
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