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A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:He won't resign.

Franken did, for a lot less.


He never should have resigned and its why I and many other I know will never forgive Senator Gillibrand.

https://www.timesunion.com/opinion/arti ... 005847.php

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:46 pm

San Lumen wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:Franken did, for a lot less.


He never should have resigned and its why I and many other I know will never forgive Senator Gillibrand.


Well I agree he shouldn't have resigned. It was a pretty small offense and the victim said she forgave him for it. Probably one of those things which is too much all at once (being a picture) but which a tougher politician would have lived down.

However, I'm not going to blame anyone who pressured him to resign. If he can't take that then he wasn't cut out for politics after all. He was kicked off a committee or something? That's nothing.

https://www.timesunion.com/opinion/arti ... 005847.php

Albany Times Union calls on Cuomo to resign


Newspaper? Never heard of it.
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A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
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He never should have resigned and its why I and many other I know will never forgive Senator Gillibrand.


Well I agree he shouldn't have resigned. It was a pretty small offense and the victim said she forgave him for it. Probably one of those things which is too much all at once (being a picture) but which a tougher politician would have lived down.

However, I'm not going to blame anyone who pressured him to resign. If he can't take that then he wasn't cut out for politics after all. He was kicked off a committee or something? That's nothing.

https://www.timesunion.com/opinion/arti ... 005847.php

Albany Times Union calls on Cuomo to resign


Newspaper? Never heard of it.


Gillibrand is the main reason he resigned and I will never forgive her. If she accepted his apology that would likely been the end of it.

Times Union is the main newspaper in Albany, our state capital. Them calling for his resignation is a very big deal.

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Postby Dresderstan » Sat Mar 06, 2021 9:51 pm

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Dresderstan wrote:He won't resign.

Franken did, for a lot less.

Franken and Cuomo are two different beasts.

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Dresderstan wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:Franken did, for a lot less.

Franken and Cuomo are two different beasts.


Yup. Franken was more like a moron frat boy while Cuomo is looking more predatorial.
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Excellent. This is one of those things that’s going to happen via state and local action. Democratic candidates for state legislatures should campaign on it as should those for municipal office.
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Excellent. This is one of those things that’s going to happen via state and local action. Democratic candidates for state legislatures should campaign on it as should those for municipal office.


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Biden will sign an exectuive order that will direct agencies to increase access to voter registration materials and reduce barriers to voting for certain groups, including military and overseas voters, people with disabilities and Native Americans.

Biden's executive order will prompt federal agencies to use their websites and social media platforms to share information about voter registration and distribute vote-by-mail applications in the course of regular services.

The order also aims to modernize Vote.gov, an official voter registration site run by the federal government, to improve accessibility and upgrade the user experience.

The rest of the order focuses on strengthening voter access for specific groups more likely to face obstacles to voting. For example, the order will direct the attorney general to establish protocols to provide educational materials about voting for eligible individuals who are being held under the jurisdiction of the Federal Bureau of Prisons.


The order will also establish a steering group on Native American voting rights. Biden's steps to improve voting access will not supersede state laws, as elections are administered by state and local officials.
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Postby Kilobugya » Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:08 am

Senkaku wrote:42% favorability... 47% approval... 57% say he should resign...


I guess some people can say "I approve of what he did as a governor, but since he's credibly accused of sexual assault, he should resign".
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:07 am

San Lumen wrote:

Excellent. This is one of those things that’s going to happen via state and local action. Democratic candidates for state legislatures should campaign on it as should those for municipal office.


You will never get another Federal minimum wage increase, if blue states get way out ahead. Red states will characterize minimum wage as "socialism for the coastal elites" and grumble that they can't afford it, rather than actually doing it as they would if the Feds led the way.
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Imo, people with Native Americans should be investigated for slavery :p
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A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:


Imo, people with Native Americans should be investigated for slavery :p

proofreading is not my thing
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Imo, people with Native Americans should be investigated for slavery :p

proofreading is not my thing


Sure. Dreary business. I'd only do it for money. Or for a laugh ...
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Today I'm reminded Snopes is a joke and at best, untrustworthy.
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Kannap wrote:Today I'm reminded Snopes is a joke and at best, untrustworthy.


What happened?
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Kannap wrote:Today I'm reminded Snopes is a joke and at best, untrustworthy.

May I ask for your reasons why?
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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Kannap wrote:Today I'm reminded Snopes is a joke and at best, untrustworthy.


What happened?


Picairn wrote:
Kannap wrote:Today I'm reminded Snopes is a joke and at best, untrustworthy.

May I ask for your reasons why?


Things like this often happen.

The "what's true" section literally confirms the claim. The "what's false" sections adds explanation that's irrelevant to the claim. So instead of the claim being confirmed as true, like it should be, it's considered a "mixed bag." This is a pattern that happens whenever it suits them, and it leads to a lack of credibility really.
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Postby Vassenor » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:41 am

Kannap wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
What happened?


Picairn wrote:May I ask for your reasons why?


Things like this often happen.

The "what's true" section literally confirms the claim. The "what's false" sections adds explanation that's irrelevant to the claim. So instead of the claim being confirmed as true, like it should be, it's considered a "mixed bag." This is a pattern that happens whenever it suits them, and it leads to a lack of credibility really.


"People are saying she did this for X reason. While she did do the thing, it was not for X reason" makes the site untrustworthy, apparently.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:42 am

Kannap wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
What happened?


Picairn wrote:May I ask for your reasons why?


Things like this often happen.

The "what's true" section literally confirms the claim. The "what's false" sections adds explanation that's irrelevant to the claim. So instead of the claim being confirmed as true, like it should be, it's considered a "mixed bag." This is a pattern that happens whenever it suits them, and it leads to a lack of credibility really.


Although the cake offering reminded some people of Marie Antoinette's alleged "Let Them Eat Cake!" remark about her starving subjects, Sinema's cake was unrelated to her vote.


Who the heck wrote this? Did a thinking human being come up with this sentence or a very dumb computer, like of course we know Kristen Sinema didn't say "hey let me eat cake like Marie Antoinette" before voting you fucking snopes employed moron.

No shit stupid. Her cake was unrelated to her vote.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:44 am

Vassenor wrote:
Kannap wrote:


Things like this often happen.

The "what's true" section literally confirms the claim. The "what's false" sections adds explanation that's irrelevant to the claim. So instead of the claim being confirmed as true, like it should be, it's considered a "mixed bag." This is a pattern that happens whenever it suits them, and it leads to a lack of credibility really.


"People are saying she did this for X reason. While she did do the thing, it was not for X reason" makes the site untrustworthy, apparently.


No, it totally fails to understand what people were saying to begin with or understand what ironic symbolism is, which doesn't surprise me in the least since American liberals often struggle with things like humor or irony and when they try to tackle these things, they just come out looking foolish.
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Postby Picairn » Sun Mar 07, 2021 6:47 am

Kannap wrote:The "what's true" section literally confirms the claim. The "what's false" sections adds explanation that's irrelevant to the claim. So instead of the claim being confirmed as true, like it should be, it's considered a "mixed bag." This is a pattern that happens whenever it suits them, and it leads to a lack of credibility really.

I mean, yeah, this is Snopes' employees injecting literalism (exact event descriptions) into a symbolism concocted by outraged Twitter users. Feels like a little pedantic to me.
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