American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[San Lumen]

or perhaps people decided they didn't;t like the third parties. what is your issue with RCV?

Or the parties keep pushing fear and propaganda against third parties to the people creating this ever growing partisan divide in this country. You still haven't proven to me smaller parties have won.

I really dont feel like searching through the elections for every city that has it. How about you stop with the generalizations and explain why dislike RCV? That is the discussion.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Maybe if we didn't have a bankrupt two party duopoly and independents and smaller parties had a hope in hell of winning instead of being muscled out by the fear and propaganda arms of the two to prevent "wasted votes" out of their own fear of being replaced. PR is better, the only compromise I'd be willing is MMP system like Germany, maybe with IRV.

MMP is a form of PR lmao.

MMP in practice can produce an non-proportional chamber. The NZ House for instance, has the theoretical capacity for wildly different single-member-district results that the number of 'balancing' members may be insufficient to make overall proportional. NZ also allows parties to be seated proportionally if they win just one district, while parties that don't, have to get a threshold (5% I think, too high, thresholds should be set at 100 divided by the number of members). The biggest problem there (insufficient balancing members) could be solved by having a standard number of them which would be exceeded as necessary when the vote is all counted.

[Dresderstan]

Oh yeah because silicon valley is sooo great.

It is. It's also time to move our trade from China to Mexico and lower shipping costs in our hemisphere.

Fuck Silicon valley, the rich tech industry giants have grown too big and powerful anyway.

[Picairn]

We already have better jobs in America.

Which is? And where?

[Dresderstan]

Or the parties keep pushing fear and propaganda against third parties to the people creating this ever growing partisan divide in this country. You still haven't proven to me smaller parties have won.

I really dont feel like searching through the elections for every city that has it. How about you stop with the generalizations and explain why dislike RCV? That is the discussion.

No.

[Picairn]

No.

I hate hit-and-run posts.

[San Lumen]

I really dont feel like searching through the elections for every city that has it. How about you stop with the generalizations and explain why dislike RCV? That is the discussion.

No.

Just saying no is not an answer. Your way isn't the only solution. Why don't you like RCV or are you just going to say PR is the only way and not say why?

[The Black Forrest]

So? That's a good thing. We want Mexico to be prosperous instead of the Chinese communist party.

Or have those jobs in America.

Not coming back. Well. Maybe if the workers want to give up things like healthcare.

[Dresderstan]

No.

Just saying no is not an answer. Your way isn't the only solution. Why don't you like RCV or are you just going to say PR is the only way and not say why?

Yes.

[Sundiata]

It is. It's also time to move our trade from China to Mexico and lower shipping costs in our hemisphere.

Fuck Silicon valley, the rich tech industry giants have grown too big and powerful anyway.

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth. Move manufacturing from China to Mexico, teach people how to code.

[Kowani]

Trump's golden CPAC statue-conceived in Mexico, made in China

[Sundiata]

Or have those jobs in America.

Not coming back. Well. Maybe if the workers want to give up things like healthcare.

It's like people miss black lung.

[Dresderstan]

Fuck Silicon valley, the rich tech industry giants have grown too big and powerful anyway.

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth.

Except the people are not getting rich, only the companies and those at the top are, while we lounge about barely scraping to get by paycheck to paycheck.

[San Lumen]

Just saying no is not an answer. Your way isn't the only solution. Why don't you like RCV or are you just going to say PR is the only way and not say why?

Yes.

Why are you even bothering to respond if your only going to to say yes or no? That’s not a debate. if you were a legislator is that all you’d say as well?

[Parxland]

Yes.

Why are you even bothering to respond if your only going to to say yes or no? That’s not a debate. if you were a legislator is that all you’d say as well?

No.

"Why are you replying?"

Because.

"Because why?"

Yes.

[Dresderstan]

Yes.

Why are you even bothering to respond if your only going to to say yes or no? That’s not a debate. if you were a legislator is that all you’d say as well?

Yes, people want short and simple answers, not a wall of text that wastes people's time.

[Sundiata]

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth.

Except the people are not getting rich, only the companies and those at the top are, while we lounge about barely scraping to get by paycheck to paycheck.

You'll make a lot more money coding than grinding away on an assembly line. Also, you'll have more creative freedom in that sphere.

[Picairn]

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth. Move manufacturing from China to Mexico, teach people how to code.

Let me guess, you are going to tell coal miners and factory workers to "learn to code"? It's not like it backfired or something.

[Dresderstan]

Except the people are not getting rich, only the companies and those at the top are, while we lounge about barely scraping to get by paycheck to paycheck.

You'll make a lot more money coding than grinding away on an assembly line. Also, you'll have more creative freedom in that sphere.

It also takes a lot of time and effort to learn how to code properly.

[Dresderstan]

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth. Move manufacturing from China to Mexico, teach people how to code.

Let me guess, you are going to tell coal miners and factory workers to "learn to code"? It's not like it backfired or something.

If my grandfather, who was a coal miner heard that he'd be pissed.

[Sundiata]

So? Let's make our whole country rich and give people the power to get in on this economic growth. Move manufacturing from China to Mexico, teach people how to code.

Let me guess, you are going to tell coal miners and factory workers to "learn to code"? It's not like it backfired or something.

Not just tell them, we should actively spend tax-payer money on it and make access to this information and skill-set free.

[San Lumen]

Why are you even bothering to respond if your only going to to say yes or no? That’s not a debate. if you were a legislator is that all you’d say as well?

Yes, people want short and simple answers, not a wall of text that wastes people's time.

A debate isn’t simply yes or no. What is your reason for opposing RCV?

[Dresderstan]

Yes, people want short and simple answers, not a wall of text that wastes people's time.

A debate isn’t simply yes or no. What is your reason for opposing RCV?

It's not proportional to the votes of the country.

[Picairn]

Not just tell them, we should actively spend tax-payer money on it and make access to this information and skill-set free.

Oh my fucking god you're serious. Well, good luck with the backlash.

[Sundiata]

Let me guess, you are going to tell coal miners and factory workers to "learn to code"? It's not like it backfired or something.

If my grandfather, who was a coal miner heard that he'd be pissed.

It's better to be angry than poor and uneducated as a country.