American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

[The Archregimancy]

Thank you Arch I know you defend my right to post pro Trump Posts - My Post was clearly a friendly Joke - this is why I used the smilies and lol I'm having a lol attack - it was meant as a Friendly Joke not seriously - can I appeal on the Mod Forum? - Thank you either way - GMS

Yes.

Simply post in the original report thread "I would like to appeal this ruling. My post was meant as a friendly joke".

Your current post in the original report thread is asking whether you can appeal or not. You can; so if you would like to appeal, I would recommend doing so clearly and unambiguously.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

>Not getting 20 dollars working for Mcdonalds
>Getting 50 dollars an hour as a tradie, probably not in the USA
America truly is the nation of wage slavery, even if the wages are large

Honestly, rather be a NEET than a wagecuck

Actually, the average trade worker only gets around $50 an hour if they're in a Union state.

By the looks of it tradies from the south get no dosh

At Will states the average trade worker gets about only ~$15 an hour. (Course there are exceptions, masters can make $150,000, but as I said they're the exception, not the rule).

Sparkies here can earn up to 300k with about 10 years of experience. No matter what tradies will make a good amount of cash. Don't corporate workers get cucked on wage slavery with 25 an hour in the US? Seems a lot like the US has devolved to wage slavery and soon enough with unpaid internships its just blatant slavery

[New haven america]

Actually, the average trade worker only gets around $50 an hour if they're in a Union state.

1. By the looks of it tradies from the south get no dosh

At Will states the average trade worker gets about only ~$15 an hour. (Course there are exceptions, masters can make $150,000, but as I said they're the exception, not the rule).

2. Sparkies here can earn up to 300k with about 10 years of experience. No matter what tradies will make a good amount of cash. 3. Don't corporate workers get cucked on wage slavery with 25 an hour in the US? Seems a lot like the US has devolved to wage slavery and soon enough with unpaid internships its just blatant slavery

1. Yes, because the South is mostly At Will states.
2. Not if they're in at will states, no, they won't.
3. Most of the developed world runs of wage slavery, some are just more generous than others.

[Myrensis]

https://thehill.com/policy/technology/540386-democrats-letter-targeting-fox-newsmax-for-misinformation-sparks-clash

Some Democrats are apparently pressuring some cable companies to censor or deplatform right wing media for "disinformation" which includes Fox News, OANN, and Newsmax.

Isn't the US federal government pursuing this going against 1st Amendment? What business is it for the government to try to tell cable companies what to broadcast? The cable companies are normally only concerned with money/ratings and don't have to answer to the whims of any politicians if what they're doing is fully within the law.

It's far too late anyway. The right-wing media ecosphere has all ready turned nearly half the country into deranged cultists, trying to put the kool-aid back in the pitcher at this point isnt going to do anything but drive them deeper down the rabbit hole.

[Great Pacific Switzerland]

1. By the looks of it tradies from the south get no dosh


2. Sparkies here can earn up to 300k with about 10 years of experience. No matter what tradies will make a good amount of cash. 3. Don't corporate workers get cucked on wage slavery with 25 an hour in the US? Seems a lot like the US has devolved to wage slavery and soon enough with unpaid internships its just blatant slavery

1. Yes, because the South is mostly At Will states.
2. Not if they're in at will states, no, they won't.
3. Most of the developed world runs of wage slavery, some are just more generous than others.

I wasn't referring to At Will states. Was referring to here in Australia. Also, if the modern day "developed" world with its corporatism and wage slavery is considered some how developed. I'd rather emigrate to Iran and live as some sort of goat farmer for the rest of my life

[San Lumen]

Why not? The stimulus being passed is already a victory in my book. Would you rather the Repubs feed us crumbs from their $600 billion package, or even no package at all? As I said, there is no retry button in real life.

You got me, I would rather have a little stimulus than no stimulus. I'd still like to push for the normal-sized stimulus.

Unseating Manchin won't give you $2000. You'd have $0.

What? Any unseating would happen four years from now. I'm talking about threatening Manchin with said unseating so that he votes your way.

The progressive that ran against him in 2018 was destroyed thoroughly, by 39 points.

And two years later she won the primary for the other seat, when there wasn't an incumbent involved.

And she still lost. She got 27 percent of the vote. Why is it so hard for you to understand that someone more to the left cannot win in West Virginia?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

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So get a one bedroom or a roommate. Boo hoo, you have to be an adult and budget properly.

"Live in a slum tenement or risk getting covid."

-Literally you

[Umeria]

And she still lost. She got 27 percent of the vote. Why is it so hard for you to understand that someone more to the left cannot win in West Virginia?

Yes, I understand that completely. Now how does that fact make threatening Manchin with a primary any less effective?

[Punished UMN]

1. Yes, because the South is mostly At Will states.
2. Not if they're in at will states, no, they won't.
3. Most of the developed world runs of wage slavery, some are just more generous than others.

I wasn't referring to At Will states. Was referring to here in Australia. Also, if the modern day "developed" world with its corporatism and wage slavery is considered some how developed. I'd rather emigrate to Iran and live as some sort of goat farmer for the rest of my life

Iran has a modern, developed economy.

[San Lumen]

And she still lost. She got 27 percent of the vote. Why is it so hard for you to understand that someone more to the left cannot win in West Virginia?

Yes, I understand that completely. Now how does that fact make threatening Manchin with a primary any less effective?

What point does it serve? The seat also isn’t up until 2024 and he only won by about 20,000 votes. A primary serves no purpose.

[Umeria]

Yes, I understand that completely. Now how does that fact make threatening Manchin with a primary any less effective?

What point does it serve? The seat also isn’t up until 2024 and he only won by about 20,000 votes. A primary serves no purpose.

The purpose is to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage. If he does vote that way, which he will if he's pressured, then the primary doesn't happen.

[San Lumen]

What point does it serve? The seat also isn’t up until 2024 and he only won by about 20,000 votes. A primary serves no purpose.

The purpose is to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage. If he does vote that way, which he will if he's pressured, then the primary doesn't happen.

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

[Umeria]

The purpose is to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage. If he does vote that way, which he will if he's pressured, then the primary doesn't happen.

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

I literally just said why, it's to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage.

[San Lumen]

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

I literally just said why, it's to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage.

For an election that’s four years away? Seems pointless.

[Umeria]

I literally just said why, it's to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage.

For an election that’s four years away? Seems pointless.

He'd vote for the bill now, in exchange for not getting primaried four years from now.

[San Lumen]

For an election that’s four years away? Seems pointless.

He'd vote for the bill now, in exchange for not getting primaried four years from now.

a primary he will likely win anyway therefore what is the point? You think threatening to primary him four years from now is going to change his mind when he barely won the general in 2018?

If your ideal candidate wins in West Virginia they will lose. Why do you want to throw away a seat?

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

>Not getting 20 dollars working for Mcdonalds
>Getting 50 dollars an hour as a tradie, probably not in the USA
America truly is the nation of wage slavery, even if the wages are large

Honestly, rather be a NEET than a wagecuck

Actually, the average trade worker only gets around $50 an hour if they're in a Union state.

At Will states the average trade worker gets about only ~$15 an hour. (Course there are exceptions, masters can make $150,000, but as I said they're the exception, not the rule)

Also, $7.50 was worth about $24 today in the 60's when MW was originally introduced.

However, the minimum wage has never been that high. I.e. "$7.50 was worth about $24 today in the 60's" doesn't mean much since it's $7.25 now but was a lot less then. Also Federal MW dates to 1938.

No, of course I wasn't there!

"The federal minimum wage was introduced in 1938 at the rate of $0.25 per hour (equivalent to $4.54 in 2019).[9] By 1950 the minimum wage had risen to $0.75 per hour.[73][9] The minimum wage had its highest purchasing power in 1968, when it was $1.60 per hour (equivalent to $11.76 in 2019).[73][74] The real value of the Federal minimum wage in 2016 dollars has decreased by one-third since 1968. The minimum wage would be $11 in 2016 if its real value had remained at the 1968 level;[75][76][77] it has instead generally tracked the 1960 real minimum wage. From January 1981 to April 1990, the minimum wage was frozen at $3.35 per hour, then a record-setting minimum wage freeze. From September 1, 1997 through July 23, 2007, the federal minimum wage remained constant at $5.15 per hour, breaking the old record. In 2009 the minimum wage was adjusted to $7.25 where it has remained fixed for the past eleven years.[9]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minimum_wage_in_the_United_States#Historical_trend

Hillary Clinton and Joe Manchin both have reasonable claims. I would even take less, but with indexation, and leave the historically high rate for the day Democrats have a workable majority.

[Ifreann]

The purpose is to get Manchin to vote for the $15 minimum wage. If he does vote that way, which he will if he's pressured, then the primary doesn't happen.

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

So Manchin now runs America. Nothing can happen that he does not sign off on.

[Major-Tom]

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

So Manchin now runs America. Nothing can happen that he does not sign off on.

By sheer unfortunate circumstance, sure, you could make that argument.

It's a double-edged sword, if he gets primaried out, we lose that seat or he switches parties and loses us the majority. If we try to keep it as is, he'll keep hindering many portions of the agenda. Oh well.

[San Lumen]

Why pressure him with a primary in an election that’s four years away which he might very well lose anyway?

A successful primary is throwing away the seat. The equivalent of what your saying is primary the governor of Massachusetts and Vermont with a Trump supporting Qanon cultist. If they win the Governorship almost certainly flips.

So Manchin now runs America. Nothing can happen that he does not sign off on.

Thats the price of democracy. Perhaps Maine should have ousted Collins.

[Major-Tom]

So Manchin now runs America. Nothing can happen that he does not sign off on.

Thats the price of democracy. Perhaps Maine should have ousted Collins.

Sara Gideon was quite possibly the worst of all the Senate candidates, unfortunately.

[Punished UMN]

So Manchin now runs America. Nothing can happen that he does not sign off on.

Thats the price of democracy. Perhaps Maine should have ousted Collins.

"the price of democracy is that one man can stifle the agenda of forty-nine" what?

[San Lumen]

Thats the price of democracy. Perhaps Maine should have ousted Collins.

Sara Gideon was quite possibly the worst of all the Senate candidates, unfortunately.

How so?

[Thermodolia]

Thats the price of democracy. Perhaps Maine should have ousted Collins.

Sara Gideon was quite possibly the worst of all the Senate candidates, unfortunately.

No id say that honor goes to the Democrat from North Carolina who couldn’t keep it in his pants

[Quanzo]

Climate blackouts are starting, everyone! Time to stock up on batteries!

Ironically, renewables are actually making the problem worse in a sense. Texas wind turbines, like all the rest of their infrastructure, aren't really designed with cold weather in mind, so they get covered with ice pretty quickly and can't turn in the wind. Fortunately, that's a problem that can be easily solved by going to cold weather designs.

no this is fake.