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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:44 pm

Tyunmen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I will post to you a detailed post of 34 of my views I posted to a certain person when I have time, the thread is locked so I cant edit it anyways, but I have the right to repost it to any persons directly. I want to edit one of my points.

I see nothing wrong with it. I don't think like President Trump, I think like most Republicans. There can be Republicans who strongly disagree with me on these points, I think it is great they can send emails, and photos, and acquire books or music or games. I give you all these points why I strongly disagree with you and persons who strongly agree with you:

Smart Communications, which did not respond to a request for comment, stresses that MailGuard is a “free service,” and the Bureau of Prisons told the Prospect that there is “no cost to the inmate population.” But this undersells the benefit for the company. Corrections facilities receive MailGuard as an add-on to the entire Smart Communications platform, including the tablets and kiosks that are one way to view physical mail scanned through the system. The tablets are often free, but incarcerated people can also use them to send emails and photos, and acquire books or music or games. Emails and photos sent through the system often require a “stamp,” making prisons the only places on Earth with stamps for electronic mail. And potential delays in processing scanned physical mail can lead to an overreliance on email.

PS. I did not copy paste my previous post, I type most of my posts. At times I post them on work pages, then copy paste them on the thread, then I edit them about 11 times or so, :) lol. I don't have any problems with any of views and opinions. No one is ignorant for their different views and opinions, not me, not you not anyone. Please have the courtesy to respect my different views like I do yours and all persons on and off NS.

GMS.

GMS I know this has nothing to do with your post, HOWEVER could you please give me a reliable source for election-fraud during the 2020 election and georgia-runoffs? You have still yet to do that.

As I posted to you through our friendly TGs, contrary to popular belief I have posted my views and opinions in details many times. They all dismiss it anyway. This goes for me and all Proud Republican Trump supporters. If I change my mind I will send you the links trough a friendly TG.

I always TG and post to all persons with respect.

GMS.
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:47 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Tyunmen wrote:GMS I know this has nothing to do with your post, HOWEVER could you please give me a reliable source for election-fraud during the 2020 election and georgia-runoffs? You have still yet to do that.

As I posted to you through our friendly TGs, contrary to popular belief I have posted my views in details many times. They all dismiss it anyway. This goes for me and all Proud Republican Trump supporters. If I change my mind I will send you the links trough a friendly TG.

I always TG and post to all persons with respect.

GMS.


In addition to patriotic NSGers scores of state and Federal judges, up to and including the Supreme Court, have dismissed your views. President Biden won an election that was free, fair and fraudless. Deal with it.
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Postby Tyunmen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 8:49 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Tyunmen wrote:GMS I know this has nothing to do with your post, HOWEVER could you please give me a reliable source for election-fraud during the 2020 election and georgia-runoffs? You have still yet to do that.

As I posted to you through our friendly TGs, contrary to popular belief I have posted my views and opinions in details many times. They all dismiss it anyway. This goes for me and all Proud Republican Trump supporters. If I change my mind I will send you the links trough a friendly TG.

I always TG and post to all persons with respect.

GMS.

I honestly don't want to go through your posts searching for the evidence to your claims. So just explain in detail your evidence again.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:33 pm

Tyunmen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:As I posted to you through our friendly TGs, contrary to popular belief I have posted my views and opinions in details many times. They all dismiss it anyway. This goes for me and all Proud Republican Trump supporters. If I change my mind I will send you the links trough a friendly TG.

I always TG and post to all persons with respect.

GMS.

I honestly don't want to go through your posts searching for the evidence to your claims. So just explain in detail your evidence again.


It’s mostly republican talking points. You could engage on something and hope there will be an arguement as to why......be prepared for “it’s your opinion”

If you are bored....

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&start=5675&p=38254907&view=show#p38254907
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Postby Tyunmen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:46 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tyunmen wrote:I honestly don't want to go through your posts searching for the evidence to your claims. So just explain in detail your evidence again.


It’s mostly republican talking points. You could engage on something and hope there will be an arguement as to why......be prepared for “it’s your opinion”

If you are bored....

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&start=5675&p=38254907&view=show#p38254907

Oh no, I don't want to know his political-beliefs, I want evidence to support the claim that the 2020 election was rigged by the democrats and the 2021 georgia runoff elections.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:50 pm

The Black Forrest wrote:
Tyunmen wrote:I honestly don't want to go through your posts searching for the evidence to your claims. So just explain in detail your evidence again.


It’s mostly republican talking points. You could engage on something and hope there will be an arguement as to why......be prepared for “it’s your opinion”

If you are bored....

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&start=5675&p=38254907&view=show#p38254907

I am not bored. lol, so you found it yourself, I am not surprised. I know you know where it is. Yes, it is mostly Republican Talking Points, because I am a Republican I am not a Democrat. I expect Democrat Talking Points from Democrats and anti Trump persons to whatever ever extend they are.

I stand by all my posts and comments. Thank you for saving me the time to post it to you. GMS.
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Postby Tyunmen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:55 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
It’s mostly republican talking points. You could engage on something and hope there will be an arguement as to why......be prepared for “it’s your opinion”

If you are bored....

viewtopic.php?f=20&t=497186&start=5675&p=38254907&view=show#p38254907

I am not bored. lol, so you found it yourself, I am not surprised. I know you know where it is. Yes, it is mostly Republican Talking Points, because I am a Republican I am not a Democrat. I expect Democrat Talking Points from Democrats and anti Trump persons to whatever ever extend they are.

I stand by all my posts and comments. Thank you for saving me the time to post it to you. GMS.

GMS, give us a reliable source that proves the 2020 election was rigged and the 2021 runoffs were rigged by the democrats.
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Postby Proctopeo » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:59 pm

Tyunmen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I am not bored. lol, so you found it yourself, I am not surprised. I know you know where it is. Yes, it is mostly Republican Talking Points, because I am a Republican I am not a Democrat. I expect Democrat Talking Points from Democrats and anti Trump persons to whatever ever extend they are.

I stand by all my posts and comments. Thank you for saving me the time to post it to you. GMS.

GMS, give me a reliable source that the 2020 election was rigged and the 2021 runoffs were rigged by the democrats.

I disagree with his premise and beliefs, but this is a fundamentally dishonest question.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Feb 24, 2021 9:59 pm

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Tyunmen wrote:GMS, give me a reliable source that the 2020 election was rigged and the 2021 runoffs were rigged by the democrats.

I disagree with his premise and beliefs, but this is a fundamentally dishonest question.


How is it dishonest?
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:03 pm

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Tyunmen wrote:GMS, give me a reliable source that the 2020 election was rigged and the 2021 runoffs were rigged by the democrats.

I disagree with his premise and beliefs, but this is a fundamentally dishonest question.

I strongly agree with Tyunmen's democratic rights to all his questions, I have a democratic right to answer any questions I wish and not answer any questions I wish.

Like I always say it depends on different persons premises we all have a democratic right too.

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Postby Picairn » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:03 pm

Proctopeo wrote:I disagree with his premise and beliefs, but this is a fundamentally dishonest question.

Asking for a reliable source is now fundamentally dishonest?
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Postby Tyunmen » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:06 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Proctopeo wrote:I disagree with his premise and beliefs, but this is a fundamentally dishonest question.

I strongly agree with Tyunmen's democratic rights to all his questions, I have a democratic right to answer any questions I wish and not answer any questions I wish.

Like I always say it depends on different persons premises we all have a democratic right too.

GMS.

Fellow-poster, first off, I don't think that is an answer, second off could you PLEASE give me a reliable source to prove that there was election fraud? I am getting tired of asking this question.

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:08 pm

I just found this interesting post from Politico I strongly agree with, which I have posted about many times in details in my own words and style:

A few excerpts:
Judge rips Capitol rioter’s Trump defense
Chief U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell was unpersuaded by a Proud Boys member’s claim he was heeding the then-president’s direction by storming Congress.

A federal judge is signaling that she’s not a big fan of an increasingly common defense emerging from lawyers for those charged in the Capitol Riot: President Donald Trump made me do it.

I cant say it any better myself. Republican President Donald J Trump for emphasis.

I Rest My Case Again.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/2 ... ump-471199
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:32 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this interesting post from Politico I strongly agree with, which I have posted about many times in details in my own words and style:

A few excerpts:
Judge rips Capitol rioter’s Trump defense
Chief U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell was unpersuaded by a Proud Boys member’s claim he was heeding the then-president’s direction by storming Congress.

A federal judge is signaling that she’s not a big fan of an increasingly common defense emerging from lawyers for those charged in the Capitol Riot: President Donald Trump made me do it.

I cant say it any better myself. Republican President Donald J Trump for emphasis.

I Rest My Case Again.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/2 ... ump-471199

You seem to believe that just because somebody else told me to do something illegal means the courts are wholly unable to pronounce me guilty. That's not how any of this fucking works mate.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:33 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:I just found this interesting post from Politico I strongly agree with, which I have posted about many times in details in my own words and style:

A few excerpts:
Judge rips Capitol rioter’s Trump defense
Chief U.S. District Court Judge Beryl Howell was unpersuaded by a Proud Boys member’s claim he was heeding the then-president’s direction by storming Congress.

A federal judge is signaling that she’s not a big fan of an increasingly common defense emerging from lawyers for those charged in the Capitol Riot: President Donald Trump made me do it.

I cant say it any better myself. Republican President Donald J Trump for emphasis.

I Rest My Case Again.

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/02/2 ... ump-471199

You seem to think just because somebody else told me to do something illegal means the courts are wholly unable to pronounce me guilty. That's not how any of this fucking works mate.

I am just posting what the Judge said. I strongly agree with, from a post from Politico.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:36 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You seem to think just because somebody else told me to do something illegal means the courts are wholly unable to pronounce me guilty. That's not how any of this fucking works mate.

I am just posting what the Judge said. I strongly agree with, from a post from Politico.

You "agree" with it because you have no idea whatsoever what Judge Howell's protestations are about and are filling in the gaps with your hyperbiased imagination.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:48 pm

Zurkerx wrote:Hmm, I forgot about the existence of HR1, or formally known as For the People Act. It had stalled when Republicans blocked it in the Senate (they called it a power grab that undermined election integrity) but now Democrats do have a chance to pass it. So, what's in the bill? Here's some of the bills ideas:

1. Requires States to offer same-day registration for Federal Elections.

2. Establishes a verified paper trail.

3. Requires the President/Vice President and Presidential candidates to disclose 10 years of tax returns.

4. Makes Gerrymandering harder by forcing States to use independent commissions to draw congressional district lines.

5. If a state has a requirement for an individual to present an ID to cast a ballot, the state shall permit the individual to present to election officials a sworn written statement under penalty of perjury attesting to the individual’s identity and that they are eligible to vote.

6. Authorizes 16- and 17-year-olds to pre-register to vote in advance of them becoming 18.

7. Admits Washington DC as the 51st State in the Union.

The bill isn't perfect, of course, but you can see why Republicans oppose it: they view it as an attempt to undermine their power, especially in key States, where they have gerrymandered States like Texas to the point where Democrats can't win. The bill will probably not pass given the slim majority for Senate Democrats but this is their best chance at the moment. As you can imagine, misinformation had been spread about the bill. For your fact-checking needs, here's an article on the mostly false claims made on it:

https://www.politifact.com/article/2021 ... ocrats-vo/

I'd love for it to pass, but they also need to do something about copyright and filibustering.
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Postby Austria-Bohemia-Hungary » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 pm

I do wonder how America ended up where simple bills needs 2/3rds of Congress to pass when in most other legislatures that's for things like changing the constitution.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:54 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You seem to think just because somebody else told me to do something illegal means the courts are wholly unable to pronounce me guilty. That's not how any of this fucking works mate.

I am just posting what the Judge said. I strongly agree with, from a post from Politico.


I think it's fairly common that defenses trying to shift the blame entirely to some other party, are dismissed by a judge. If that was allowed, a team of eight bank robbers would all choose one scapegoat among them to do Life, while the other 7 would all walk free.

That prosecutors sometimes arrange exactly that (immunity in exchange for evidence) is a whole different injustice. Anyway.

No amount of rulings that individuals cannot shift their own blame to Trump, will lessen any guilt Trump may have. There is nothing unusual in law, about more than one individual having responsibility for the same crime.

(Politico is a better source, btw. I approve.)
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 24, 2021 10:56 pm

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I do wonder how America ended up where simple bills needs 2/3rds of Congress to pass when in most other legislatures that's for things like changing the constitution.

Around the mid 90s the Republicans hit on the idea of just saying no to everything and then a procedure that previously had been used to protect slavery and stem civil rights became the model for being 'the opposition party.'
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Postby Autumn Wind » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:00 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:You seem to think just because somebody else told me to do something illegal means the courts are wholly unable to pronounce me guilty. That's not how any of this fucking works mate.

I am just posting what the Judge said. I strongly agree with, from a post from Politico.


Except if you read the article, that is not what the judge is saying.

The proud Boy guy is claiming that he should be immune to prosecution because he was following Trump’s orders. The judge said that following such orders is not a defense against prosecution.

You seem to imply that the article claims that the judge was dismissing the claim that Trump was behind it. You appear to be missing the crux of the legal arguments here.
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Not allowing prisoners paper copy of their mail would be unnecessarily cruel. However, given the thousands of different drugs that could be smuggled into prison, impregnated into paper, I think copies on prison paper instead of the originals, does make sense.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:25 pm

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Interesting. I just don't know who could take him out in the primary, I'd rather see him get beat by a semi-respected Dem than a run-of-the-mill, corrupt Long Island or Staten Island Republican. Cynthia Nixon has no chance, neither would Jumaane Williams. Letitia James, maybe?


Better a Long Island Republican than an Adirondack one. Stefanik's suposed to be interested in the position herself.


Same shit, different pile etc.

That isn't to belittle either of those regions, just the candidates they spawn. Not that the perenially corrupt NY Democratic Party is often any better. Maybe on the issues they are, but not on the fundamentals.

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Postby Great Pacific Switzerland » Wed Feb 24, 2021 11:27 pm

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Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:I do wonder how America ended up where simple bills needs 2/3rds of Congress to pass when in most other legislatures that's for things like changing the constitution.

Around the mid 90s the Republicans hit on the idea of just saying no to everything and then a procedure that previously had been used to protect slavery and stem civil rights became the model for being 'the opposition party.'

90's America be like: Decay into a shvtshow in the 21st century doing pointless proxy wars and rocking up debt
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Feb 25, 2021 12:17 am

Great Pacific Switzerland wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Around the mid 90s the Republicans hit on the idea of just saying no to everything and then a procedure that previously had been used to protect slavery and stem civil rights became the model for being 'the opposition party.'

90's America be like: Decay into a shvtshow in the 21st century doing pointless proxy wars and rocking up debt


Actually the 90's had no major wars (besides former Yugoslavia, which the US was very slow to enter), and ended with the first US budget surplus in decades.

Maybe you're thinking of the 2000's.
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