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Kowani
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:51 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://thehill.com/homenews/house/538969-naacp-rep-bennie-thompson-sue-trump-giuliani-over-capitol-riot

The NAACP and Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) are suing former President Trump, alleging that he incited the Capitol riot on Jan. 6 in violation of a Reconstruction Era law commonly referred to as the Ku Klux Klan Act.

Full lawsuit here
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San Lumen
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Liberal Democratic Socialists

Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:51 pm

Loeje wrote:
Post War America wrote:
I mean, technically Republican politicians still do have to worry about getting primaried. Of course defending Trump for that reason would expose them as power hungry garbage, but it is a rationale.

Until Trump tries to destroy their careers anyway. He's not consistent, you can't rely on him.


I dont think McConnell is going to take kindly to being threatened like that and many in the party are going to do all they can to stop him from being the nominee again.

McConnell also knows if someone like MTG gets nominated for almost all of the seats up next year they will lose.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:52 pm

Galloism wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
I wish ISIS was as dumb (the exception being Abu Hajjar). We'd have defeated them in 2 weeks.

I mean, it's super hard to be afraid of these people.

All I have to do is challenge them to a battle of wits...

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They go to shoot you but pull a Cheddar Bob instead.
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 pm

Zurkerx wrote:
Loeje wrote:He should have voted to convict.


Absolutely should have but muh Constitution. Trump doesn't give a fuck if they lick his boot or not: once you cross him, you will suffer. They never learn. Suffice to say, Trump is on the war path now and will seek his vengeance against those that didn't protect him enough.

Yes, As far as you guys are concerned they should all vote to convict Republican President Trump, because he is guilty as charged by the Democrats, of fake election vote fraud charges and inciting the violence on the Capitol Building.

These are your views and opinions which you have a democrat right to strongly believe and post on NS and all news sites, which you all do.

This is what matters and counts to you guys.

No, No Republican House or Senate Representative should vote to convict President Trump, as far as we are concerned Republican President Donald J Trump, is not guilty of fake election vote fraud charges and inciting the violence, as proven by the Trump defense lawyers in the case of inciting violence, and the videos of the Democrat Hypocrites inciting violence themselves.

They also exposed the Democrat Hypocrites, objecting to the 2016 US Presidential electoral college votes, against Republican President to be, Donald J Trump.

Just saying as a small example, short story, an hour ago I talked to a Proud Pro Trump Republican Person I met for the first time, we strongly agree with each other, what a coincidence.

These our views and opinions which we have a democratic right to strongly believe and post on NS and all news sites, which we do, and I do.

This is what matters and counts to us.

Notice that I don't say anymore the word Facts when I say opinions, I credit and thank Istoreya for Istoreya's constructive, friendly and helpful advice:

I edited out the word Facts from my new sig.

You guys will never change our views, and we will never change your views. But we must respect our different views and opinions, while strongly disagreeing with each other, especially on NS.

Notice that I account for at least 95 % of the Pro Trump Posters on these related threads most of time. Not because I am the only one on NS. Many have told me on NS and Discord, they vote on the polls and don't post on the threads.

I wish my family and friends, Cubans and Americans, would join me on NS to back me up. I tell them and show them all about NS, the nations, the RPs, Pics, laws, dispatches, RP forums and general forum, and they refuse to join me, I don't know why, :(

We have Proud Republican Trump Supporters, American Family and Friends in the family as well.

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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:55 pm

https://www.thereporteronline.com/news/ ... 50fb5.html

Montgomery County Commissioner Joe Gale, a Trump die-hard who was censured last year by his fellow commissioners for calling Black Live Matters "a radical left-wing hate group," announced a campaign for governor of Pennsylvania. Gale declared that his first priority would be to "hold bad Republicans accountable not just by naming names, but by supporting primary challenges against those who undermine a common-sense conservative agenda."

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Postby Istoreya » Tue Feb 16, 2021 3:57 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:Notice that I don't say anymore the word Facts when I say opinions, I credit and thank Istoreya for Istoreya's constructive, friendly and helpful advice:

You guys will neve change our views, and we will never change your views. But we must respect our different views and opinions, while strongly disagreeing with each other, especially on NS.

Thank You - Istoreya.
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:clap: Keep it up there, bud. We'll iron out all these miscommunications one day.

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:00 pm

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doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


Election polls three+ full years before the election mean precisely nothing.
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.
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Greater Miami Shores
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Capitalist Paradise

Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:02 pm

Istoreya wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:Notice that I don't say anymore the word Facts when I say opinions, I credit and thank Istoreya for Istoreya's constructive, friendly and helpful advice:

You guys will neve change our views, and we will never change your views. But we must respect our different views and opinions, while strongly disagreeing with each other, especially on NS.

Thank You - Istoreya.
Alberto - GMS.

:clap: Keep it up there, bud. We'll iron out all these miscommunications one day.

Thank you for the applause and compliment, I returned the favor by giving you credit for your friendly, constructive and helpful advice.

Your good Friend for life and from beyond the grave.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:05 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.


He may not like governing but he does certainly enjoy the campaign life (IE being the center of attention for weeks at a time) and how much money it makes him.
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Postby Kowani » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:07 pm

Valrifell wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


Election polls three+ full years before the election mean precisely nothing.

as an electoral indicator, no
as an signal of the ideological attitude of the GOP?
they tend to be better
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San Lumen
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Postby San Lumen » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:07 pm

Valrifell wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.


He may not like governing but he does certainly enjoy the campaign life (IE being the center of attention for weeks at a time) and how much money it makes him.


True but considering how much he hated the job I dont think he will run and will instead spend time campaigning for people he endorses.
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Postby Valrifell » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:09 pm

Kowani wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
Election polls three+ full years before the election mean precisely nothing.

as an electoral indicator, no
as an signal of the ideological attitude of the GOP?
they tend to be better


You don't need 2024 election polls to know that the GOP's base has completely embraced the right-wing extremism and "no-policy" politics that Trump embraced.
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Anarchy

Postby Zurkerx » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:18 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
He may not like governing but he does certainly enjoy the campaign life (IE being the center of attention for weeks at a time) and how much money it makes him.


True but considering how much he hated the job I dont think he will run and will instead spend time campaigning for people he endorses.


If it saved him from criminal prosecutions, I'm sure he'll take that any day of the week.

Valrifell wrote:
Kowani wrote:as an electoral indicator, no
as an signal of the ideological attitude of the GOP?
they tend to be better


You don't need 2024 election polls to know that the GOP's base has completely embraced the right-wing extremism and "no-policy" politics that Trump embraced.


All in the name of owning the Libs by the way. It's one of their mantras and one that means a lot to them.



Well, can't have their credit taken away. Of course, should have kept their mouths shut but alas, they glamor for the attention- just like a certain someone they follow.
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Postby Greater Kopmakia » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:29 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.


Well yeah, he got harassed over his presidency for 4 whole years.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:30 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom

I was trying to explain that to the politically illiterate who think Trump is gone.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:46 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)

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His return will be viewed by me the same way the people of the Pegasus Galaxy viewed the return of the Wraith.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:46 pm

Greater Kopmakia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.


Well yeah, he got harassed over his presidency for 4 whole years.


Ending up on the news for doing dumb things is harassment now I guess.
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"The devil is out there. Hiding behind every corner and in every nook and cranny. In all of the dives, all over the city. Before you lays an entire world of enemies, and at day's end when the chips are down, we're a society of strangers. You cant walk by someone on the street anymore without crossing the road to get away from their stare. Welcome to the Twilight Zone. The land of plague and shadow. Nothing innocent survives this world. If it can't corrupt you, it'll kill you."

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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:47 pm


And they got what they deserve. I always condemn right wing violence and left wing violence.

1 - Have You? I have and do.

2 - Have any of You? I have and do.

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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:47 pm

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Celestial Wave wrote:Smort

And they got what they deserve. I always condemn right wing violence and left wing violence.

1 - Have You? I have and do.

2 - Have any of You? I have and do.

Crazy Native Cuban Alberto - GMS.


You draw a false equivalency where there is none. Want me to go grab the terror statistics regarding casualties from attacks based on ideology?
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Postby Rusozak » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:48 pm

Kowani wrote:(Image)

doom doom doom doom doom doom doom doom


600 people polled over 3 and a half years before the election is hardly an accurate measure. It also depends on where you poll.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:56 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:And they got what they deserve. I always condemn right wing violence and left wing violence.

1 - Have You? I have and do.

2 - Have any of You? I have and do.

Crazy Native Cuban Alberto - GMS.


You draw a false equivalency where there is none. Want me to go grab the terror statistics regarding casualties from attacks based on ideology?

Let The Post Record show My Post Response Fits the Posters Post. There are only a few ways to say the same again. Since the subject keeps being challenged, not because I want to.

I am talking about the leftist violence in Democrat run cities with Democrat Mayors.

Most right wingers are not Protesting Violently across the nation of The USA. Most right wingers are Protesting Peacefully and Patriotically across the nation of The USA.

I have stated, most of the leftists protested peacefully not violently
. I have stated most of the right wingers at the Pro Trump Stop The Election Steal Rally, Protested Peacefully and Patriotically as Republican President Donald J Trump said and asked them to do in the speech, Not Violently..

Like my Cuban and American Pro Trump Republican Friends, Proud Vietnam, Combat Veteran Heroes, If I had gone with them like I wanted too but could not, I would be the worthless one of them.

I always condemn right wing violence and left wing violence.

1 - Have You? I have and do.

2 - Have any of You? I have and do.

We area all Proud Republican Trump Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA.

Thank you for your post, Rojava my friend.

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Postby Vassenor » Tue Feb 16, 2021 4:58 pm

Greater Kopmakia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
I have doubts hes going to run again. He never wanted to be president in the first place and often lamented how much he hated the job.


Well yeah, he got harassed over his presidency for 4 whole years.



TIL that the media reporting on what the notionally most powerful person in the country does is harassment.
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