American Politics IV: 1400 Reasons Why(A Stimulus Serial)

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You ignore this part - Under the Trump administration plan, the Pentagon first offered the vaccine to health care workers and their support staff, followed by those with critical national security jobs, and then the workforce over 65 years of age or with prior medical conditions.

That's not being ignored.

You complain that Biden wanted to vaccinate the Guantanamo detainees, when it was, in fact, the Trump administration who wanted to do that. Biden stopped the vaccinations, which he shouldn't have.

You whine about Trump administration policies, and you call them America Last.

[Istoreya]

*Sigh* I thought we were done arguing with the cultists of private citizen Mr. Trump.

Yes I am a Proud Republican Trump Cultists Supporter, with Pride and Honor. It is on my sig. Because I strongly agree at least 99 Percent % with Republican President Donald J Trump and the Republicans on most issues. There is nothing wrong with it.

I strongly disagree at least 99 Percent % with the Democrats and Biden on most issues.

I don't have any problems with persons who support the Democrats and Biden. I don't have any problems with any persons who Post Pro Democrats, Pro Biden Posts. I don't put any persons on ignore for any reasons and I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS.

GMS.

You are aware of the image you are giving of yourself by openly calling yourself a cultist, right? Cults aren't good.

[Shrillland]

The Daily Mail(so take it as you will) just released this exclusive expose on MTG: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html?fbclid=IwAR2TauYrgChi-AGYASA925dty1EW_2Aq0VDTePXfl_bdILlPg4atwBXDPEQ

[Atheris]

Yes I am a Proud Republican Trump Cultists Supporter, with Pride and Honor. It is on my sig. Because I strongly agree at least 99 Percent % with Republican President Donald J Trump and the Republicans on most issues. There is nothing wrong with it.

I strongly disagree at least 99 Percent % with the Democrats and Biden on most issues.

I don't have any problems with persons who support the Democrats and Biden. I don't have any problems with any persons who Post Pro Democrats, Pro Biden Posts. I don't put any persons on ignore for any reasons and I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS.

GMS.

You are aware of the image you are giving of yourself by openly calling yourself a cultist, right? Cults aren't good.

Except for Christianity. And Islam. And a majority of religions, actually.

[The Reformed American Republic]

You ignore this part - Under the Trump administration plan, the Pentagon first offered the vaccine to health care workers and their support staff, followed by those with critical national security jobs, and then the workforce over 65 years of age or with prior medical conditions.

That's not being ignored.

You complain that Biden wanted to vaccinate the Guantanamo detainees, when it was, in fact, the Trump administration who wanted to do that. Biden stopped the vaccinations, which he shouldn't have.

You whine about Trump administration policies, and you call them America Last.

To be honest, it's time to just ignore him. He won't change his mind and it will just result in frustration.

[Drew Durrnil]

*Sigh* I thought we were done arguing with the cultists of private citizen Mr. Trump.

Yes I am a Proud Republican Trump Cultists Supporter, with Pride and Honor. It is on my sig. Because I strongly agree at least 99 Percent % with Republican President Donald J Trump and the Republicans on most issues. There is nothing wrong with it.

I strongly disagree at least 99 Percent % with the Democrats and Biden on most issues.

I don't have any problems with persons who support the Democrats and Biden. I don't have any problems with any persons who Post Pro Democrats, Pro Biden Posts. I don't put any persons on ignore for any reasons and I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS.

GMS.

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
As a proud member of the Cancel America cult, I challenge your cult to a duel!

[Albrenia]

While I do agree with the sentiment that America should chiefly concern itself first with vaccinating Americans, I'd also posit that anybody being held by the US should also be vaccinated. It's not like they can go elsewhere to get the vaccination right now.

[Spirit of Hope]

There is no point in arguing with GMS so please stop it, it's hopeless, it's like talking to a fucking brick wall. At least a brick wall wouldn't spat out the same talking points over and over again.

I do not have to agree with any persons I strongly disagree with on Republican President Donald J Trump, Republicans, Cuba or any issues on NS, when I and the millions of my fellow Republicans American citizens of the USA, strongly disagree with them.

We are on NS to share, discuss and argue our similar and different views on all issues, with respect towards each other, while strongly disagreeing with each other. These are not just anti Trump threads to agree with each other.

The Persons who have me on ignore don't accept that I can have a different point of view on Republican President Donald J Trump. They don't even put me on ignore on Cuba, my real pet issue on NS.

GMS.

Pretty sure people who have you on ignore can handle the fact you disagree with them since they participate in the debate with other people who disagree with them. What they can't handle is the fact that you repeat the same lines over and over and that you ignore objective fact.

The Daily Mail(so take it as you will) just released this exclusive expose on MTG: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html?fbclid=IwAR2TauYrgChi-AGYASA925dty1EW_2Aq0VDTePXfl_bdILlPg4atwBXDPEQ

I mean even if it's not true her response was hilarious. The freshman representative is the biggest threat to socialism?

[Atheris]

Yes I am a Proud Republican Trump Cultists Supporter, with Pride and Honor. It is on my sig. Because I strongly agree at least 99 Percent % with Republican President Donald J Trump and the Republicans on most issues. There is nothing wrong with it.

I strongly disagree at least 99 Percent % with the Democrats and Biden on most issues.

I don't have any problems with persons who support the Democrats and Biden. I don't have any problems with any persons who Post Pro Democrats, Pro Biden Posts. I don't put any persons on ignore for any reasons and I am very proud of it, but I am not the only one on NS.

GMS.

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
As a proud member of the Cancel America cult, I challenge your cult to a duel!

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
*screams in depression and existential dread*

[Punished UMN]

You are aware of the image you are giving of yourself by openly calling yourself a cultist, right? Cults aren't good.

Except for Christianity. And Islam. And a majority of religions, actually.

Cults in the modern sense aren't defined by belief-system, they're defined by how they interact with the world outside of their belief system, with cults emphasizing removal of contact with people who are not part of the belief system and the use of psychological manipulation to ensure the loyalty of members. You could argue that some denominations of major religions are cults or that some trends within major religions (e.g. Christian and Buddhist monasticism) are cult-like, but there are still key differences in their MO, who has authority, and how this authority is maintained.

[Atheris]

Except for Christianity. And Islam. And a majority of religions, actually.

Cults in the modern sense aren't defined by belief-system, they're defined by how they interact with the world outside of their belief system, with cults emphasizing removal of contact with people who are not part of the belief system and the use of psychological manipulation to ensure the loyalty of members. You could argue that some denominations of major religions are cults or that some trends within major religions (e.g. Christian and Buddhist monasticism) are cult-like, but there are still key differences in their MO, who has authority, and how this authority is maintained.

I was just making a joke about how the Abrahamic religions, Buddhism, and a few others I'm too bored to name technically count as cults since they revolve around the worship and/or veneration of one person (specifically Abraham, Jesus, Mohammed (pbuh), and Gautama).

[Czechostan]

The Daily Mail(so take it as you will) just released this exclusive expose on MTG: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html?fbclid=IwAR2TauYrgChi-AGYASA925dty1EW_2Aq0VDTePXfl_bdILlPg4atwBXDPEQ

That Ivey guy definitely could match MTG's crazy energy, but after reading that article, he sounds too cool for her.

[Greater Miami Shores]

I do not have to agree with any persons I strongly disagree with on Republican President Donald J Trump, Republicans, Cuba or any issues on NS, when I and the millions of my fellow Republicans American citizens of the USA, strongly disagree with them.

We are on NS to share, discuss and argue our similar and different views on all issues, with respect towards each other, while strongly disagreeing with each other. These are not just anti Trump threads to agree with each other.

The Persons who have me on ignore don't accept that I can have a different point of view on Republican President Donald J Trump. They don't even put me on ignore on Cuba, my real pet issue on NS.

GMS.

Pretty sure people who have you on ignore can handle the fact you disagree with them since they participate in the debate with other people who disagree with them. What they can't handle is the fact that you repeat the same lines over and over and that you ignore objective fact.

The Daily Mail(so take it as you will) just released this exclusive expose on MTG: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9246917/Marjorie-Taylor-Green-openly-cheated-husband-men-gym.html?fbclid=IwAR2TauYrgChi-AGYASA925dty1EW_2Aq0VDTePXfl_bdILlPg4atwBXDPEQ

I mean even if it's not true her response was hilarious. The freshman representative is the biggest threat to socialism?

Thank you for your constructive post. I do repeat myself like the broken record I am, lol. Because the post response fits the post not because I want too. As I said they ignore me for the reasons I stated, which I can prove if I ever have too, and I hope I never have too.

I do not ignore objective facts, when they always agree with the persons who strongly disagreeing with me on Republican President Trump. What a coincidence the objective facts on Republican President Trump always agree with their views based on facts. They never agree with my views based on facts. I will never agree with other persons facts when I strongly disagree with them. They will never agree with my facts when they strongly disagree with them, these are facts, .

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

[Atheris]

Pretty sure people who have you on ignore can handle the fact you disagree with them since they participate in the debate with other people who disagree with them. What they can't handle is the fact that you repeat the same lines over and over and that you ignore objective fact.



I mean even if it's not true her response was hilarious. The freshman representative is the biggest threat to socialism?

Thank you for your constructive post. I do repeat myself like the broken record I am, lol. Because the post response fits the post not because I want too. As I said they ignore me for the reasons I stated, which I can prove if I ever have too, and I hope I never have too.

I do not ignore objective facts, when they always agree with the person strongly disagreeing with me on Republican President Trump. What a coincidence the objective facts on Republican President Trump always agree with their views based on facts. They never agree with my views based on facts. I will never agree with other persons facts when I strongly disagree with them. They will never agree with my facts when they strongly disagree with them, these are facts, .

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

You're not posting facts.

[Greater Miami Shores]

Thank you for your constructive post. I do repeat myself like the broken record I am, lol. Because the post response fits the post not because I want too. As I said they ignore me for the reasons I stated, which I can prove if I ever have too, and I hope I never have too.

I do not ignore objective facts, when they always agree with the person strongly disagreeing with me on Republican President Trump. What a coincidence the objective facts on Republican President Trump always agree with their views based on facts. They never agree with my views based on facts. I will never agree with other persons facts when I strongly disagree with them. They will never agree with my facts when they strongly disagree with them, these are facts, .

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

You're not posting facts.

That is the problem their facts are there opinions, my facts are my opinions. You would strongly disagree with any persons who strongly disagree with you, especially on Republican President Trump or any issues and so would I, and so would all of us on NS and off NS. Don't hold me to a different standard. This also happens with other pro Trump persons posts. But I GMS usually post at least 99 % of the Pro Trump Posts on these related threads. Have you guys not noticed, it is not because I am the only one on NS, it is because I am the one who usually posts.

Many of us usually vote on the thread polls but don't post.

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

[Zurkerx]

So, Trump's defense team basically made their case for 3 hours and was mostly by what I heard "he had a 1st Amendment Right to tell his supporters to 'fight' and that he never cited an insurrection". Am I hearing that correctly? Because god damn, that's a poor defense. Not that it matters anyway: he could literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they wouldn't convict him, at least in the Senate. How disappointing.

[Istoreya]

You're not posting facts.

That is the problem their facts are there opinions, my facts are my opinions. You would strongly disagree with any persons who strongly disagree with you, especially on Republican President Trump or any issues and so would I, and so would all of us on NS and off NS. Don't hold me to a different standard. This also happens with other pro Trump persons posts. But I GMS usually post at least 99 % of the Pro Trump Posts on these related threads. Have you guys not noticed, it is not because I am the only one on NS, it is because I am the one who usually posts.

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

No, you are still fundamentally misunderstanding facts for opinions. Facts do not change based on opinion. For example, flat earthers have the opinion that the earth is flat. The earth is not flat, flat earthers simply ignore facts. It isn't the case that the earth being round is just an opinion. It is a fact which certain people are stupidly blind to.

[Genivaria]

So, Trump's defense team basically made their case for 3 hours and was mostly by what I heard "he had a 1st Amendment Right to tell his supporters to 'fight' and that he never cited an insurrection". Am I hearing that correctly? Because god damn, that's a poor defense. Not that it matters anyway: he could literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they wouldn't convict him, at least in the Senate. How disappointing.

It is just so infuriating the inequality of justice in this country and that's never been made more plain than now.

[Genivaria]

That is the problem their facts are there opinions, my facts are my opinions. You would strongly disagree with any persons who strongly disagree with you, especially on Republican President Trump or any issues and so would I, and so would all of us on NS and off NS. Don't hold me to a different standard. This also happens with other pro Trump persons posts. But I GMS usually post at least 99 % of the Pro Trump Posts on these related threads. Have you guys not noticed, it is not because I am the only one on NS, it is because I am the one who usually posts.

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

GMS.

No, you are still fundamentally misunderstanding facts for opinions. Facts do not change based on opinion. For example, flat earthers have the opinion that the earth is flat. The earth is not flat, flat earthers simply ignore facts. It isn't the case that the earth being round is just an opinion. It is a fact which certain people are stupidly blind to.

I've been convinced for a few months now that GMS is just a bit with prerecorded responses or at the very least engages with a copy paste script.

[Republic of Turbin]

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The stimulus is being debated and amended and mutilated, the Trump trial seems to be heading to another acquittal, and B.1.351 variant-Covid is about to sweep the nation. What else will happen in the US? Stay on this thread to find out with news from Kowani, electoral analysis from Shrillland and San Lumen, civil debate from NSG, uncivil debate from the same NSG, and next week's weather forecast with chief meteorologist Jenny Greenteeth. In the mentime, you all know the rules, play nice, wear your masks, get your shots, and get the vaccine, too.


Plebiscite Plaza 2021, your home for ballot initiatives for the year.

First up is an amendment that would lead to redistricting reform. The amendment would allow the state 10-member redistricting commission(made up of 4 Democrats, 4 Republicans, and 2 non-partisans) to approve a new legislative map by majority vote if a single party holds both legislative houses. Currently, it requires a two-thirds majority when a party holds both. Second, the amendment would require prisoners to be counted in the census according to their last known residence rather than the prison they're in. Third, it would require the state to count non-citizens when it comes to redistricting. Fourth, State Senate district would no longer be bound to the "block-on'-border" requirement, meaning that (A), city blocks could now be divided into different districts, and (B), the commission is no longer required to take adjacent towns or city blocks on the borders of districts in mind when drawing maps. Currently, they have to ensure that towns or blocks are placed in such a way as to make neighbouring districts equal in population and the districts can't have a greater population difference between them than the population of that border town or block. Fifth, it would permanently cap the State Senate at 63 seats, and sixth, it moves up the deadline for redistricting to November 1, 2021(and so on) from January 1, 2022(and so on).

Amendment number two would create a constitutional right to clean water, clean air, and a healthful environment.

[spoiler=Pennsylvania]The first amendment, to be voted on on May 18 like the others, would amend the constitution to prohibit the denial or abridgement of rights based on race or ethnicity, primarily to stop Affirmative Action.

Amendments number two and three both regard emergency declarations. Two would limit emergency declarations issued by the governor to no more than 21 days unless the legislature votes for an extension. The amendment would also allow the legislature to pass laws regarding how these declarations can be managed. Three would allow the legislature to unilaterally extend or terminate a governor's emergency declaration by a simple majority vote. This resolution could not be vetoed by the governor.

A potential ballot measure from Pennsylvania would amend the States constitution to change the way Supreme Court justices are selected from statewide elections to geographic state districts. If passed by both the state house and senate by February 17th, it would become a ballot measure that would be voted by the public on may 18th.

:Am rather concerned seeing as to how Pennsylvania already has had problems with gerrymandering in the past and was only able to get a better congressional map through the state courts in 2018.

https://ballotpedia.org/Pennsylvania_Districts_for_State_Supreme,_Superior,_and_Commonwealth_Court_Elections_Amendment_(2021)
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/pennsylvania/spl/pennsylvania-supreme-court-gerrymandering-judicial-districts-20210127.html

[Salus Maior]

Cults in the modern sense aren't defined by belief-system, they're defined by how they interact with the world outside of their belief system, with cults emphasizing removal of contact with people who are not part of the belief system and the use of psychological manipulation to ensure the loyalty of members. You could argue that some denominations of major religions are cults or that some trends within major religions (e.g. Christian and Buddhist monasticism) are cult-like, but there are still key differences in their MO, who has authority, and how this authority is maintained.

I was just making a joke about how the Abrahamic religions, Buddhism, and a few others I'm too bored to name technically count as cults since they revolve around the worship and/or veneration of one person (specifically Abraham, Jesus, Mohammed (pbuh), and Gautama).

And that's the problem I have with that particular definition of cults.

Because at that point it's just synonymous with religion and not particularly useful as a descriptive term. All religions have a central figure or figures.

[Atheris]

You're not posting facts.

That is the problem their facts are there opinions, my facts are my opinions.

I know I'm talking to a brick wall, but screw it. No, our facts aren't opinions. The facts that we use have been peer-reviewed and have actual evidence for them. You're defending a moronic coward who pushed forward an attempted coup on an election he lost in a democracy. This is not something that happens in first world countries, especially not the world's leading power in development and scientific achievement. This happened in the USSR at the beginning of the Russian Civil War, and has no reason to happen in any country, especially the US. You're also pushing forward bullshit conspiracy theories that have been debunked and refuted numerous times and you refuse to even look at those objective facts. You refuse to look at posts that have a point and instead focus on posts that are either targeting you as a person or don't have much or any effort put into them, and I can gather data for this.

You would strongly disagree with any persons who strongly disagree with you, especially on Republican President Trump or any issues and so would I, and so would all of us on NS and off NS. Don't hold me to a different standard.

I'm not.

This also happens with other pro Trump persons posts.

I haven't really seen anything like that.

But I GMS usually post at least 99 % of the Pro Trump Posts on these related threads. Have you guys not noticed, it is not because I am the only one on NS, it is because I am the one who usually posts.

No, you don't. I've seen Kexholm Karelia post more than you on average.

Thank you for trying to post a constructive post too me.

I wasn't.

GMS.

Snape. Snape. Se-ve-rus Snape. (Dumbledore!)

[Greater Miami Shores]

So, Trump's defense team basically made their case for 3 hours and was mostly by what I heard "he had a 1st Amendment Right to tell his supporters to 'fight' and that he never cited an insurrection". Am I hearing that correctly? Because god damn, that's a poor defense. Not that it matters anyway: he could literally shoot someone on 5th Avenue and they wouldn't convict him, at least in the Senate. How disappointing.

I strongly agree with you, the Trump defense team has been awful, my Pro Trump Republican friends, family and posters on right wing news sites I post on from time to time say so as well.

There is no doubt violence was committed, but the Democrat Impeachment Managers have not proven their case, the main reason is because President Trump said, Protest Peacefully and Patriotically. Not Protest violently.

My Cuban and American Friends and most persons at the Pro Trump Rally were not influenced by the speech or President Trump to storm the Capitol Building or commit any acts of damages and violence.

I asked this question and other related questions step by step on NS, and they offered excuses while still blaming Trump for the violence.

Republican President Trump.

I would have gone with them Proudly with Pride and Honor if I could have.

GMS.

[Drew Durrnil]

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
As a proud member of the Cancel America cult, I challenge your cult to a duel!

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
*screams in depression and existential dread*

I'm gonna sig this real quick

[Atheris]

*pulls out anime weapons*
weeaboo mode!
*screams in depression and existential dread*

I'm gonna sig this real quick

pog eva moment B)