Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Day 3 of wondering what is and isn't woke.
I can not figure it out either, I thought it was a new age thing TBH.
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by North Rosmana » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:39 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Day 3 of wondering what is and isn't woke.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:40 am
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:44 am
by Picairn » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:50 am
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:French intellectuals have always felt threatened by US culture. They fear being overwhelmed by superior numbers of (as they see it) inferior culture.
by SD_Film Artists » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:51 am
Glorious Hong Kong wrote:
This is happening right now in France. Where Trump failed to decisively curtail leftist insanity, Macron may yet succeed.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 am
Picairn wrote:A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:French intellectuals have always felt threatened by US culture. They fear being overwhelmed by superior numbers of (as they see it) inferior culture.
Ironic, their culture produced a racist that inspired the Nazis and the Jim Crow South. Not very nobler than the "inferior" Americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
by A-Series-Of-Tubes » Fri Feb 12, 2021 6:58 am
Picairn wrote:A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:French intellectuals have always felt threatened by US culture. They fear being overwhelmed by superior numbers of (as they see it) inferior culture.
Ironic, their culture produced a racist that inspired the Nazis and the Jim Crow South. Not very nobler than the "inferior" Americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
by Echo Chamber Thought Police » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:07 am
Picairn wrote:A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:French intellectuals have always felt threatened by US culture. They fear being overwhelmed by superior numbers of (as they see it) inferior culture.
Ironic, their culture produced a racist that inspired the Nazis and the Jim Crow South. Not very nobler than the "inferior" Americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:51 am
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:Picairn wrote:Ironic, their culture produced a racist that inspired the Nazis and the Jim Crow South. Not very nobler than the "inferior" Americans. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arthur_de_Gobineau
most people in the 19th century were racists
by Picairn » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:52 am
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:Seriously. That's your refutation of "French intellectuals have always felt threatened by US culture"?
I said "(as they see it) inferior" and you thought I said "inferior"?
If you disagree with my obvious generalization, then disagree. Picking at me with "here's one exception" gets you no further than this .
by No State Here » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:55 am
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:The American media portrayed Macron as some sort of woke progressive like Ardern back in 2017, and Americans generally have the impression that Europeans are "woker," but if you know anything about Macron’s policies and the overton window of French politics in general, it shouldn’t be a surprise. France is one of the countries I respect the most because everyone in the country from all sides of politics are generally nationalists, which is why politicians won’t put their political party before the country. We saw this during Erdogan’s attacks on Macron, where even his biggest political opponents like Le Pen came to his defense because, he is after all, the president of France
by No State Here » Fri Feb 12, 2021 7:56 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Day 3 of wondering what is and isn't woke.
by Ostroeuropa » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:18 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Day 3 of wondering what is and isn't woke.
by Destyntine » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:40 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:41 am
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:44 am
Destyntine wrote:North Rosmana wrote:I can not figure it out either, I thought it was a new age thing TBH.
The 'woke' left is a term given to the the mass gatherings of SJWs demanding something in the name of racial inequity, gender equity, or 3rd wave feminism. The woke left often uses cancel culture, the act of mass slandering on social media to attack people, corporations, media, or specific ideological groups that do not give in to their beliefs or demands. The woke left is a new age thing, most prevalent in America.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:47 am
Sundiata wrote:France has been lost since the late 1700s. I don't envy President Macron.
by National Capitalist United States » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:49 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Destyntine wrote:The 'woke' left is a term given to the the mass gatherings of SJWs demanding something in the name of racial inequity, gender equity, or 3rd wave feminism. The woke left often uses cancel culture, the act of mass slandering on social media to attack people, corporations, media, or specific ideological groups that do not give in to their beliefs or demands. The woke left is a new age thing, most prevalent in America.
Tbh are they really leftists? When someone says something like "all black people whether rich or poor, young or old, male or female, need to come together and fight against the white man," that sounds an awful alot more fascist than communist. I would argue that the worst of identity politics types are actually far right and not far left. The whole idea of original fascism after all was replacing the class dichotomy with the nation or race dichotomy, and isn't that what the worst of the so called woke crowd do? I just don't see what is left wing about these types. For me being leftwing was always about abolishing the current capitalist system, not "white people need to make space for black people cause you're racist."
by Arcturus Novus » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:51 am
Sundiata wrote:France has been lost since the late 1700s. I don't envy President Macron.
Nilokeras wrote:there is of course an interesting thread to pull on [...]
Unfortunately we're all forced to participate in whatever baroque humiliation kink the OP has going on instead.
by Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 am
by Destyntine » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:56 am
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Destyntine wrote:The 'woke' left is a term given to the the mass gatherings of SJWs demanding something in the name of racial inequity, gender equity, or 3rd wave feminism. The woke left often uses cancel culture, the act of mass slandering on social media to attack people, corporations, media, or specific ideological groups that do not give in to their beliefs or demands. The woke left is a new age thing, most prevalent in America.
Tbh are they really leftists? When someone says something like "all black people whether rich or poor, young or old, male or female, need to come together and fight against the white man," that sounds an awful alot more fascist than communist. I would argue that the worst of identity politics types are actually far right and not far left. The whole idea of original fascism after all was replacing the class dichotomy with the nation or race dichotomy, and isn't that what the worst of the so called woke crowd do? I just don't see what is left wing about these types. For me being leftwing was always about abolishing the current capitalist system, not "white people need to make space for black people cause you're racist."
by An-Tanwir » Fri Feb 12, 2021 8:59 am
by Royal Frankia » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:01 am
by National Capitalist United States » Fri Feb 12, 2021 9:03 am
An-Tanwir wrote:I've said it before and I'll say it again. Getting called out for being bigoted isnt "woke cancel culture", its called "consequences for your actions". Shape up or ship out.
I want to restrict your speech.
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