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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:35 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Adamede wrote:Canada's culture is literally "We're not America even", combine with the same variance from standard American culture that the various regional cultures in the US has.

Get better shit dude.

Actually Canada's culture is quite unique, even if subtle.

In the same way Midwestern culture or Southern culture is unique. It's still a part of the larger Anglo-American culture, and frankly has less substance than the other ones even, as again it defines itself by what its "not".
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:36 am

What a brilliant piece of satire I laughed way too hard reading it.
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APNM Asks: Should We Abolish America?

Postby Deacarsia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:38 am

Nay, America should not be aboished.

If anything, it needs saved.
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Postby Bolslania » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:40 am

My Political Fantasy wrote:What a brilliant piece of satire I laughed way too hard reading it.


I'm beginning to think he's being ironic. Thats my last hope for this dude's sanity

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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:41 am

Bolslania wrote:TURKEY :rofl: :rofl: The Armenian Genocide is objectively better than America?
I never said anything about the Armenian genocide. Turkish culture is far, far more than just that event.

Spain and Greece, leeching off of German guilt? Leeching off of the EU?
Which has nothing really to do with their culture.
Mexico? Warlordism and strongmen is a good thing to you?
I think you are mistaking culture for political issues. Many countries are poorer than the US but still have better cultures. Also Mexico's problems are caused by the US, so you can't pin it entirely on them.
Vietnam? An authoritarian state-capitalist regime?
Yes?


Try that statement about Korea again, but this time in understandable english
A Pimp Named Marlborough understands English perfectly well, thank you.
"Harkening back to the days of yore is a pretty sad statement" If you think its not a great argumentative tactic to bring up things that happened in the past, why are we even having this discussion? Lets talk about Canada's history of genocide and forced displacement of natives.
Mhm, something I do often. However, I don't really think that's an avenue an American should want to start going down either.

"Three small and biased nations" So what? What does their size have to do with anything? And you can't just make an "attempt" to defeat someone else's argument by saying that people who disagree with you are "biased"
Well it's because they are. The Soviet Union wasn't even that bad, but especially in the Baltic republics which were quite well off compared to the rest of the USSR. It is a petty bias.
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:41 am

Bolslania wrote:
My Political Fantasy wrote:What a brilliant piece of satire I laughed way too hard reading it.


I'm beginning to think he's being ironic. Thats my last hope for this dude's sanity

I think he's making fun of Neko's absurd hatred of China.
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:45 am

Adamede wrote:In the same way Midwestern culture or Southern culture is unique. It's still a part of the larger Anglo-American culture, and frankly has less substance than the other ones even, as again it defines itself by what its "not".
On the contrary we are not part of some larger American culture. There are many differences and Canadians are acutely aware of such differences. Furthermore, there is no "Anglo"-American culture as America is not an Anglo country. Canada is however more of an Anglo country, albeit one that is also to some extent Anglo-Franco. Hence why of course there are cultural differences. American culture is just...just American.
I'm sorry I don't have a low enough IQ to understand your ramblings.

For someone claiming that these sort of posts give you an ego boost, you seem quite vexed.
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 am

My Political Fantasy wrote:
Bolslania wrote:
I'm beginning to think he's being ironic. Thats my last hope for this dude's sanity

I think he's making fun of Neko's absurd hatred of China.

I'm not.
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Postby Disgraces » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:46 am

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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:48 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Adamede wrote:In the same way Midwestern culture or Southern culture is unique. It's still a part of the larger Anglo-American culture, and frankly has less substance than the other ones even, as again it defines itself by what its "not".
On the contrary we are not part of some larger American culture. There are many differences and Canadians are acutely aware of such differences. Furthermore, there is no "Anglo"-American culture as America is not an Anglo country. Canada is however more of an Anglo country, albeit one that is also to some extent Anglo-Franco. Hence why of course there are cultural differences. American culture is just...just American.
I'm sorry I don't have a low enough IQ to understand your ramblings.

For someone claiming that these sort of posts give you an ego boost, you seem quite vexed.

Canadians are aware of those minute differences because that's all they have a unique cultural identity. Unless you're Quebecois I guess.

I'm not vexed, just in awe of idiocy that shouldn't exist.

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Postby My Political Fantasy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:48 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Adamede wrote:In the same way Midwestern culture or Southern culture is unique. It's still a part of the larger Anglo-American culture, and frankly has less substance than the other ones even, as again it defines itself by what its "not".
On the contrary we are not part of some larger American culture. There are many differences and Canadians are acutely aware of such differences. Furthermore, there is no "Anglo"-American culture as America is not an Anglo country. Canada is however more of an Anglo country, albeit one that is also to some extent Anglo-Franco. Hence why of course there are cultural differences. American culture is just...just American.
I'm sorry I don't have a low enough IQ to understand your ramblings.

For someone claiming that these sort of posts give you an ego boost, you seem quite vexed.


Marlborough, the stock of the American people and culture come from the English. England as of now has a devolved government that oppresses the people of Scotland, Northern Ireland, and Wales. Do you think that it is a good Idea for the United Kingdom to be abolished and have England's political entities liberated?
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Postby Zohiania » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:49 am

Ideally we should actually made the whole world America.
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Postby Arisyan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:50 am

Do I like America? Not currently, no. Have I participated in some Anti-American discussion? Probably yes. Should it be abolished? No.

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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:50 am

Yes, but only because it's above what I consider the best size for a country. You could be asking me 'should we abolish china/Britain/Brazil/France' though.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:51 am

CoraSpia wrote:Yes, but only because it's above what I consider the best size for a country. You could be asking me 'should we abolish china/Britain/Brazil/France' though.

Then what is the ideal size of a nation?

And if we're getting around to balkanizing Britain that's most of the world's nations that have to be broken up.

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Postby Bolslania » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:53 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Bolslania wrote:TURKEY :rofl: :rofl: The Armenian Genocide is objectively better than America?
I never said anything about the Armenian genocide. Turkish culture is far, far more than just that event.

Spain and Greece, leeching off of German guilt? Leeching off of the EU?
Which has nothing really to do with their culture.
Mexico? Warlordism and strongmen is a good thing to you?
I think you are mistaking culture for political issues. Many countries are poorer than the US but still have better cultures. Also Mexico's problems are caused by the US, so you can't pin it entirely on them.
Vietnam? An authoritarian state-capitalist regime?
Yes?


Try that statement about Korea again, but this time in understandable english
A Pimp Named Marlborough understands English perfectly well, thank you.
"Harkening back to the days of yore is a pretty sad statement" If you think its not a great argumentative tactic to bring up things that happened in the past, why are we even having this discussion? Lets talk about Canada's history of genocide and forced displacement of natives.
Mhm, something I do often. However, I don't really think that's an avenue an American should want to start going down either.

"Three small and biased nations" So what? What does their size have to do with anything? And you can't just make an "attempt" to defeat someone else's argument by saying that people who disagree with you are "biased"
Well it's because they are. The Soviet Union wasn't even that bad, but especially in the Baltic republics which were quite well off compared to the rest of the USSR. It is a petty bias.



THE SOVIET UNION KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN THE NAZIS

and if you ever say "the Soviet Union wasn't that bad" to anyone from a Post-Soviet country they are liable to punch you.

And you act as if America has never done anything good ever. Which is just blatantly false. Has America done some bad thing? Yeah, we have. I'll own up to that, but has everything America done been evil? Nope.

And there is no single American culture, there are many different cultures within America, which one ruffles your feathers the most? Because the Southwest has a fair amount of hispanic culture, the East Coast as a fair amount of German and British Isles culture, the West Coast and Canada are pretty damn similar, and then there's Texas, who nobody likes.
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Postby CoraSpia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:53 am

Adamede wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Yes, but only because it's above what I consider the best size for a country. You could be asking me 'should we abolish china/Britain/Brazil/France' though.

Then what is the ideal size of a nation?

And if we're getting around to balkanizing Britain that's most of the world's nations that have to be broken up.

I'd say around 1-2 million.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:54 am

CoraSpia wrote:
Adamede wrote:Then what is the ideal size of a nation?

And if we're getting around to balkanizing Britain that's most of the world's nations that have to be broken up.

I'd say around 1-2 million.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:54 am

I think you mean "Shall America be abolished?"

No, I don't think America the nation-state needs to be abolished. I'm generally not in favour of abolishing nation-states, as much as I may dislike some of them. Although to be fair, balkanising the United States is an idea with some merit.
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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:55 am

Adamede wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:On the contrary we are not part of some larger American culture. There are many differences and Canadians are acutely aware of such differences. Furthermore, there is no "Anglo"-American culture as America is not an Anglo country. Canada is however more of an Anglo country, albeit one that is also to some extent Anglo-Franco. Hence why of course there are cultural differences. American culture is just...just American.

For someone claiming that these sort of posts give you an ego boost, you seem quite vexed.

Canadians are aware of those minute differences because that's all they have a unique cultural identity. Unless you're Quebecois I guess.

I'm not vexed, just in awe of idiocy that shouldn't exist.

Well personally I don't consider them minute. One country has mass shootings biweekly, a murder rate higher than the global average for no discernable reason, a lumpenproletariat culture, disregard for community spirit and whose tourists have to pretend to be Canadian in order to be well received internationally. The other lacks all of those things and is generally considered one of the best places on Earth to live.

It seems more like you are vexed, good sir. Ah! Decorum is another trait that is not shared with the Americans.
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Postby My Political Fantasy » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:55 am

Adamede wrote:
CoraSpia wrote:Yes, but only because it's above what I consider the best size for a country. You could be asking me 'should we abolish china/Britain/Brazil/France' though.

Then what is the ideal size of a nation?

And if we're getting around to balkanizing Britain that's most of the world's nations that have to be broken up.


Come to think of it, we also need to Abolish the country of France because WIlliam the Conqueror came from Normandy, but we also probably need to abolish the country of Germany because that is where the Franks came from...
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:57 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:I think you mean "Shall America be abolished?"

No, I don't think America the nation-state needs to be abolished. I'm generally not in favour of abolishing nation-states, as much as I may dislike some of them. Although to be fair, balkanising the United States is an idea with some merit.

Not really. Balkanization at best lowers the living standards of the common people. At worst it gives you the exact scenario that coined the term "Balkanization".

But hey I get it some people on here get off to the idea of lots of innocent people dying.

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Postby Sicilian Imperial-Capitalist Empire » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:57 am

I seriously can't tell if this thread is serious or not, because some of the statements just sound... too far to be serious opinions.
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Postby Adamede » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:57 am

The Marlborough wrote:
Adamede wrote:Canadians are aware of those minute differences because that's all they have a unique cultural identity. Unless you're Quebecois I guess.

I'm not vexed, just in awe of idiocy that shouldn't exist.

Well personally I don't consider them minute. One country has mass shootings biweekly, a murder rate higher than the global average for no discernable reason, a lumpenproletariat culture, disregard for community spirit and whose tourists have to pretend to be Canadian in order to be well received internationally. The other lacks all of those things and is generally considered one of the best places on Earth to live.

It seems more like you are vexed, good sir. Ah! Decorum is another trait that is not shared with the Americans.

Again, get better material dude.

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Postby The Marlborough » Thu Feb 11, 2021 10:58 am

Bolslania wrote:
The Marlborough wrote:I never said anything about the Armenian genocide. Turkish culture is far, far more than just that event.

Which has nothing really to do with their culture.
I think you are mistaking culture for political issues. Many countries are poorer than the US but still have better cultures. Also Mexico's problems are caused by the US, so you can't pin it entirely on them.
Yes?


A Pimp Named Marlborough understands English perfectly well, thank you.
Mhm, something I do often. However, I don't really think that's an avenue an American should want to start going down either.

Well it's because they are. The Soviet Union wasn't even that bad, but especially in the Baltic republics which were quite well off compared to the rest of the USSR. It is a petty bias.



THE SOVIET UNION KILLED MORE PEOPLE THAN THE NAZIS

and if you ever say "the Soviet Union wasn't that bad" to anyone from a Post-Soviet country they are liable to punch you.

The Soviet Union did not kill more people than the Nazis. Further many people from post-Soviet states miss the USSR. It was actually a pretty decent place in post-Stalin era up until economic stagnation really hit. But you know that happens now again in even other countries so, meh. Bang on with the aesthetics and anthem as well to boot.
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