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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:19 am

Loujain al-Hathloul was released this Wednesday after imprisonment for 1001 Arabian days. Her sister, Lina, tweeted “Loujain is home !!!!!!” Al-Hathloul was imprisoned for demanding the right to drive in Saudi Arabia, which was illegal, despite the fact that the Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) allowed women to ride camels and horses by themselves freely. Ironically, she was released just days before the Saudi monarchy would legalize women driving. She reportedly was subject to torture, abuse, and threats of rape while imprisoned by the Saudis. The move, believed to like the Egyptian one be to appease the new US Administration, has been welcomed internationally. However, Loujain is not free: she is still under restrictions and her family faces a five year travel ban.
However, the al-Hathlouls aren’t just gonna sit by. As Lina al-Hathloul tweeted “The fight is not over. I am not fully happy without the release of all political prisoners.”

Neither are we, Lina. Neither are we.

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https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/2/1 ... rom-prison https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/10/middleea ... index.html https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/louj ... n-n1257140
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:25 am

Insaanistan wrote:"The fight is not over. I am not fully happy without the release of all political prisoners.”


Just remember - the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:32 am

Vassenor wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:"The fight is not over. I am not fully happy without the release of all political prisoners.”


Just remember - the journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step.

This is step one.

What better way to step one thousand miles than to march?
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Postby Galloism » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:55 am

Good deal. Unjust imprisonment, unjust treatment, and the Saudi government should be punished for it.

They won’t be, but they should be.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 6:59 am

Galloism wrote:Good deal. Unjust imprisonment, unjust treatment, and the Saudi government should be punished for it.

They won’t be, but they should be.

Those not punished in this life will be punished in the hereafter.
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Postby The Jamesian Republic » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:00 am

The move, believed to like the Egyptian one be to appease the new US Administration


I think that means something now. The Saudi’s may actually fear us or are now weary of us again.
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Postby Galloism » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:00 am

The Jamesian Republic wrote:
The move, believed to like the Egyptian one be to appease the new US Administration


I think that means something now. The Saudi’s may actually fear us or are now weary of us again.

You mean wary?
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Postby Arisyan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:02 am

Wooohooo! Finally!

I guess thats all I have to say. Im just really relieved that maybe, this is a step in the right direction to women's rights in Saudi Arabia.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:06 am

I don't think that the Mohammed bin Salman's attempts to launder his public image in the West portends anything in the way of real justice for the Saudi people. But it is obviously very good for this woman to be out of prison.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:07 am

Arisyan wrote:Wooohooo! Finally!

I guess thats all I have to say. Im just really relieved that maybe, this is a step in the right direction to women's rights in Saudi Arabia.

Unfortunately, I doubt it. The Saudis will continue with their backwards radical interpretations for the foreseeable future. MBS is no reformer: his nickname among Saudis is “Abu Rushd”. Father of the Bullet, or alternatively, Bullet Guy.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:17 am

Galloism wrote:
The Jamesian Republic wrote:
I think that means something now. The Saudi’s may actually fear us or are now weary of us again.

You mean wary?

I don't see that at all, there is no fear, it's just trying to get on the good side, nothing more.

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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 11, 2021 7:18 am

Dresderstan wrote:
Galloism wrote:You mean wary?

I don't see that at all, there is no fear, it's just trying to get on the good side, nothing more.

Indeed. The US will continue to side with Saudis despite them being considerably worse than the Iranians.
I say this as a Sunni who has a strong hate for both regimes.
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Everyone take a good look. These are our so called "allies," a bunch of religious fanatics who hate women, so next time you hear the president talk about our fight for freedom and justice worldwide, let him know that no one believes that shit.

It's good Loujane was released. Those punks did her so wrong.
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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Everyone take a good look. These are our so called "allies," a bunch of religious fanatics who hate women, so next time you hear the president talk about our fight for freedom and justice worldwide, let him know that no one believes that shit.

It's good Loujane was released. Those punks did her so wrong.

The House of Saūd’s dominance over much of Arabia since the nation’s start was literally fanatic entitlement.
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Postby East Blepia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:13 am

Great news. Now for the Zionist entity to release Marwan Barghouti.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
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2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Insaanistan wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Everyone take a good look. These are our so called "allies," a bunch of religious fanatics who hate women, so next time you hear the president talk about our fight for freedom and justice worldwide, let him know that no one believes that shit.

It's good Loujane was released. Those punks did her so wrong.

The House of Saūd’s dominance over much of Arabia since the nation’s start was literally fanatic entitlement.


You can blame the British and to a certain extent the French for that. They helped them and now we have countries like Syria Lebanon and Iraq who only exist because of where The British and French claimed land. They turned a blind eye to what happened on the peninsula and the discovery of oil only made matters worse. Their practice of Wahhabism has created a powerful enemy in the region. Which is why things are the way they are there to a certain extent of course.
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East Blepia wrote:Great news. Now for the Zionist entity to release Marwan Barghouti.

:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
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East Blepia wrote:Great news. Now for the Zionist entity to release Marwan Barghouti.


You mean Israel? My guy I'm no fan of the mistreatment of the Palestinians or Israel's constant lobbying in my government, but the country has a name. It isn't the Zionist entity. It's Israel. Or, if you like, "the country that named itself after an ancient kingdom but it isn't a monarchy at all like the original country."
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The Jamesian Republic wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:The House of Saūd’s dominance over much of Arabia since the nation’s start was literally fanatic entitlement.


You can blame the British and to a certain extent the French for that. They helped them and now we have countries like Syria Lebanon and Iraq who only exist because of where The British and French claimed land. They turned a blind eye to what happened on the peninsula and the discovery of oil only made matters worse. Their practice of Wahhabism has created a powerful enemy in the region. Which is why things are the way they are there to a certain extent of course.

True.
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Postby East Blepia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:30 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You mean Israel?

The people you see in Israel now are not the original Jews who once inhabited Palestine. That is why the rate of skin cancer in Israel is the second highest in the world (after Australia for similar reasons). The people you see now who go around claiming to be Jews are just about as insane as 15th century Greeks claiming to be ancient Romans. Therefore the true Levantines are now Christian and Muslim Palestinians and a small fraction of Jews who remained in the Holy Land.
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20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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Postby Vassenor » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:35 am

East Blepia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:You mean Israel?

The people you see in Israel now are not the original Jews who once inhabited Palestine. That is why the rate of skin cancer in Israel is the second highest in the world (after Australia for similar reasons). The people you see now who go around claiming to be Jews are just about as insane as 15th century Greeks claiming to be ancient Romans. Therefore the true Levantines are now Christian and Muslim Palestinians and a small fraction of Jews who remained in the Holy Land.


Except that the Byzantine Empire actually was descended from the old Eastern Roman Empire.
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Vassenor wrote:Except that the Byzantine Empire actually was descended from the old Eastern Roman Empire.


Yes, if you are talking about the state, but the people were not Romans, they were Greeks.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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East Blepia wrote:
Vassenor wrote:Except that the Byzantine Empire actually was descended from the old Eastern Roman Empire.


Yes, if you are talking about the state, but the people were not Romans, they were Greeks.


"Byzantine Empire" is a term created after the end of the realm; its citizens continued to refer to their empire simply as the Roman Empire (Medieval Greek: Βασιλεία Ῥωμαίων, romanized: Basileía Rhōmaíōn) or Romania (Medieval Greek: Ῥωμανία), and to themselves as Romans (Medieval Greek: Ῥωμαῖοι, romanized: Rhōmaîoi) - a term which Greeks continued to use for themselves into Ottoman times. Although the Roman state continued and its traditions were maintained, modern historians distinguish Byzantium from the previous Roman empire as it was centred on Constantinople, oriented towards Greek rather than Latin culture, and characterised by Eastern Orthodox Christianity.


I'm going to place more stock in what the people actually living there thought over some random internet talking head wants to claim in order to push a narrative, personally.
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East Blepia wrote:Great news. Now for the Zionist entity to release Marwan Barghouti.

> "Zionist entity"
The Jews have lived in Israel since the early Iron Age circa. 1200 BCE, way before Emperor Hadrian genocided them and put the name "Syria Palaestina" in place.
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Postby East Blepia » Thu Feb 11, 2021 8:40 am

Vassenor wrote:I'm going to place more stock in what the people actually living there thought over some random internet talking head wants to claim in order to push a narrative, personally.


Perhaps that was a bad example. But my general point still stands.
20 years in Iraq and Afghanistan, 10 years in Syria, constant brinksmanship with Iran, $230 billion[1] and counting in military and economic aid to a first-world country, and the agitation of Islamic extremism[2] causing tens of thousands of civilian deaths is not enough. America MUST do more for Israel. If you ask what we get in exchange, you are an anti-semite.

1. https://fas.org/sgp/crs/mideast/RL33222.pdf "As of March 2020, in 2018 U.S. dollars (inflation-adjusted), total U.S.
aid to Israel... is $236 billion."

2. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2002/nov/24/theobserver "Why are we fighting and opposing you? The answer is very simple...You attacked us in Palestine...the degree of American support for Israel"

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