Freedom of speech // Is the West falling behind?

[The Alma Mater]

but if it were done by the right back toward the left they would scream "traitor". It is all social and political bunkum.

Have you actually talked to a real leftist? They get banned from platforms like Twitter all the time for much more spurious reasons.

And note how right wingers were utterly fine with that.
Tell me Arthenius - why did YOU never speak out against this ?

[Vassenor]

someone who believes everything the media tells them and has critical-level Trump Derangement.

Sorry, you lost me as soon as you engaged in the CCP tactic of implying that anyone who criticises The Party is suffering from some undisclosed mental illness because only someone who's mentally ill would ever do that.

[ImperialRussia]

What is use becoming a US patriot while you can serve the Chinese Government and be loyal servant to there cause as merchant and business

[Vassenor]

What is use becoming a US patriot while you can serve the Chinese Government and be loyal servant to there cause as merchant and business

Like who?

[ImperialRussia]

What is use becoming a US patriot while you can serve the Chinese Government and be loyal servant to there cause as merchant and business

Like who?

Us Business Man who put there money and investment in china I’ll have a choice if I be one them in the future

[The Alma Mater]

What is use becoming a US patriot while you can serve the Chinese Government and be loyal servant to there cause as merchant and business

Like who?

Ivanka ?

[ImperialRussia]

What is use becoming a US patriot while you can serve the Chinese Government and be loyal servant to there cause as merchant and business

Like who?

Us Business Man who put there money and investment in china I’ll have a choice if I be one them in the future or not depends on the market if it exist or not

[Borderlands of Rojava]

someone who believes everything the media tells them and has critical-level Trump Derangement.

Sorry, you lost me as soon as you engaged in the CCP tactic of implying that anyone who criticises The Party is suffering from some undisclosed mental illness because only someone who's mentally ill would ever do that.

The real Trump derangement syndrome was all the people saying Trump was like the messiah or that they'd give their lives for that orange colored clown. 4 people died at the capitol for a guy who sexually fantasizes about his own daughter, like what a hill to die on. I used to think jihadists died for dumb reasons but holy shit there's worse things to give your life for and Trump is one of them. But hey, at least he got 1/100th of the wall complete. Now the Mexicans can look at a life sized replica of the monolith from 2001 when they cross the border.

[National Capitalist United States]

Sorry, you lost me as soon as you engaged in the CCP tactic of implying that anyone who criticises The Party is suffering from some undisclosed mental illness because only someone who's mentally ill would ever do that.

The real Trump derangement syndrome was all the people saying Trump was like the messiah or that they'd give their lives for that orange colored clown. 4 people died at the capitol for a guy who sexually fantasizes about his own daughter, like what a hill to die on. I used to think jihadists died for dumb reasons but holy shit there's worse things to give your life for and Trump is one of them. But hey, at least he got 1/100th of the wall complete. Now the Mexicans can look at a life sized replica of the monolith from 2001 when they cross the border.

Nah, that's Trump devotion syndrome.

Trump derangement syndrome is when you let him live rent free in your head for four years, while your account is about "owning" him.

[Eitoan]

How can anti-censorship be bad?

[Adamede]

If that’s our competition I think we’re fairly safe.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The real Trump derangement syndrome was all the people saying Trump was like the messiah or that they'd give their lives for that orange colored clown. 4 people died at the capitol for a guy who sexually fantasizes about his own daughter, like what a hill to die on. I used to think jihadists died for dumb reasons but holy shit there's worse things to give your life for and Trump is one of them. But hey, at least he got 1/100th of the wall complete. Now the Mexicans can look at a life sized replica of the monolith from 2001 when they cross the border.

Nah, that's Trump devotion syndrome.

Trump derangement syndrome is when you let him live rent free in your head for four years, while your account is about "owning" him.

Something 10 people in almost 10 cities did. I think the claims about "the radical left" and "TDS" make it pretty obvious many Trump fans know less about actual leftists than they do about life on mars.

[National Capitalist United States]

Nah, that's Trump devotion syndrome.

Trump derangement syndrome is when you let him live rent free in your head for four years, while your account is about "owning" him.

Something 10 people in almost 10 cities did. I think the claims about "the radical left" and "TDS" make it pretty obvious many Trump fans know less about actual leftists than they do about life on mars.

I mean they definitely don't know anything about leftists, but the claims about TDS aren't probably wrong. A lot of liberals on twitter seem to have left Trump live rent free in their heads since he was elected.

[Vassenor]

Something 10 people in almost 10 cities did. I think the claims about "the radical left" and "TDS" make it pretty obvious many Trump fans know less about actual leftists than they do about life on mars.

I mean they definitely don't know anything about leftists, but the claims about TDS aren't probably wrong. A lot of liberals on twitter seem to have left Trump live rent free in their heads since he was elected.

TDS is the idea that people are just making up criticisms of Trump because they can't accept that he's done good things and thus there are no valid criticisms of Trump.

[National Capitalist United States]

I mean they definitely don't know anything about leftists, but the claims about TDS aren't probably wrong. A lot of liberals on twitter seem to have left Trump live rent free in their heads since he was elected.

TDS is the idea that people are just making up criticisms of Trump because they can't accept that he's done good things and thus there are no valid criticisms of Trump.

Trumps is trash, but his biggest fans think he's a perfect man that's done nothing bad in life (They need to go outside).

Also I'm fairly sure TDS, at least when it's used on Twitter, means that you let Trump live rent free in your head. At least that's how I've seen it be used.

[Gravlen]

How can anti-censorship be bad?

First of all, because the people claiming this is "anti-censorship" dooesn't understand what the term "censorship" means.
Second, because it's an illegitimate governmental interference in private business.
Third, when it's selective.

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

Odd that Article 196 of the Penal Code of Poland says:

'Whoever offends the religious feelings of other persons by outraging in public an object of religious worship or a place dedicated to the public celebration of religious rites, shall be subject to a fine, the penalty of restriction of liberty or the penalty of deprivation of liberty (imprisonment) for up to 2 years.'

Free speech for me, but not for thee.

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

How can anti-censorship be bad?

First of all, because the people claiming this is "anti-censorship" dooesn't understand what the term "censorship" means.
Second, because it's an illegitimate governmental interference in private business.
Third, when it's selective.

private businesses can do what they like?

so we should abolish the minimum wage and working hours. all democrats must agree with me.

[Adamede]

How can anti-censorship be bad?

First of all, because the people claiming this is "anti-censorship" dooesn't understand what the term "censorship" means.
Second, because it's an illegitimate governmental interference in private business.
Third, when it's selective.

So when is government interference in private business legitimate?

[Anglicora]

Poland, this u?

Elżbieta, Anna and Joanna – whose last names have not been released – were arrested in 2019 and charged the next year after they stuck up posters of the Virgin Mary adorned with a rainbow halo, symbolic of the popular flag used to represent the LGBT+ community.

Its called hate speech laws get over it

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

Poland, this u?

Elżbieta, Anna and Joanna – whose last names have not been released – were arrested in 2019 and charged the next year after they stuck up posters of the Virgin Mary adorned with a rainbow halo, symbolic of the popular flag used to represent the LGBT+ community.

Its called hate speech laws get over it

so censorship

[Anglicora]

Its called hate speech laws get over it

so censorship

yes... so what? There's no civilised country where you can say absolutely whatever you like.

[Dollystana]

First of all, because the people claiming this is "anti-censorship" dooesn't understand what the term "censorship" means.
Second, because it's an illegitimate governmental interference in private business.
Third, when it's selective.

So when is government interference in private business legitimate?

When it is done for the greater good and not for stupid reasons like not being liberal/conservative enough or not supporting the government. As a liberal, I think it is fine for conservatives to think whatever they want, just don't do anything idiotic like storming the capitol for a deranged former businessman.

[Arisyan]

*smashes keyboard* im done. I am honestly done. No. The west is definitely not falling behind in the free speech department, and it's delusional at best to think Poland has better freedom of speech than the US. It's hypocrisy at its finest really.

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

so censorship

yes... so what? There's no civilised country where you can say absolutely whatever you like.

banning people from putting rainbow halos on a picture of the virgin mary is acceptable censorship?