China’s 3 Best Friend Countries?

[Ethel mermania]

Remember, it’s only imperialism if Western nations do it.

It's only imperialism if it is from the imperialism region in France.

Otherwise it's just sparkling empire building.

Galla would be proud. Well done.

[Ittonia]

Which countries are China’s best friends?

By “best friend” I mean a combination of one or more of the following:
- close economic ties and partnerships
- likelihood of helping each other if invaded (economically, diplomatically and/or politically)
- relevant treaties and agreements
- ideologically

The reason I don’t say “allies” is because a formalized alliance would require a formal treaty/agreement like what you have with NATO. I want to broaden the discussion to include other understandings of national closeness, partnership and friendship. Rather than simply asking... who is formally allied with Beijing, I want ask: who is friendly towards Beijing?

Here is a list of countries to choose from:

Russia (often stands with China in the UN, various huge trade, infrastructure, resource and technology exchanges on-going)
North Korea (has a formal defense agreement with China, China helped North Korea during the Korean War)
Vietnam (ideologically declared Communist)
Laos
Cambodia
Myanmar (traditionally a huge trade partner, not sure about the effects of the coup)
Pakistan (China has traditionally backed Pakistan against India)
The Philippines (huge trade partner)
USA (despite the rhetoric, the USA is still the top market for Chinese exports by far)

Now there could be other states to consider so I will include an Other option.

Please decide which three countries are China’s best friends (who’s likely to act and speak out for China if China is invaded). How do you rank them? Why did you rank this way? Which factors do you focus on? Why this way?

I would go with Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan in that order. Russia because of the close cooperation in the UN and in natural resources; also, both are ideologically anti-imperial. North Korea because of the mutual defense understandings, and then Pakistan. I picked Pakistan as 3 because throughout most of the Cold War and even to now, I don’t think China and Pakistan have Had any major disagreements.

I personally think that Nepal should be part of the list as the current nepalese government is very similar to the Chinese one and Nepal is basically a Chinese puppet state

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Pakistan, North Korea, and now Myanmar

[The Reformed American Republic]

More like anti-West and pro-their-own-imperialism.

That's "anti-imperialism" in a nutshell. Anti-imperialism is code for anti-west.

[Castelia]

I'd just like to point out that the only reason the Philippines could even be considered "friendly" towards China right now is because Duterte and his goons are known butt-kissers of Xi's.

The general Filipino populace, in my opinion, is steadily getting pushed into becoming Sinophobic, and I really can't place any fault in my fellow Filipinos for thinking that way. The CCP hasn't given us much of a reason to love China, after all. Too bad the Chinese people, especially Chinese-Filipinos, have been caught up in this mess.

[Rio Cana]

They left out Cuba. Cuba economy is dependent on a few Asian nations which includes China.

[Infected Mushroom]

They left out Cuba. Cuba economy is dependent on a few Asian nations which includes China.

Oh no

I forgot

I also forgot to add Central Asian states

Can’t do it now or poll will be messed

[Infected Mushroom]

China has just helped Cambodia. I think Cambodia may go up on this ranking of friendly nations.

https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/ ... 210208.htm

China delivered 600,000 doses of its Sinopharm coronavirus vaccine to ally Cambodia on Sunday, making the kingdom the latest country to use Chinese jabs despite concerns about their efficacy compared to Western alternatives.

Cambodian leader Hun Sen announced last month that China would donate one million doses of its coronavirus vaccine to the kingdom - which will cover 500,000 people because two doses are required.

On Sunday, the strongman premier greeted the arrival of the first batch at Phnom Penh's international airport. It's unclear when the remaining doses are scheduled to touch down.

"The Cambodian government owes gratitude to the Chinese government," Hun Sen said during a handover ceremony at the airport.

Hun Sen, 68, one of the world's longest-serving leaders, originally planned to receive the first shot of the vaccine, but he backed away from that idea after learning it's aimed at people aged between 18-59.

The first people to get the jabs include frontline health workers, teachers, soldiers, the premier's bodyguards, and officials around the king, the premier said.

Cambodia plans to vaccinate at least 10 million of its 16 million population with shots from both China's Sinopharm and Sinovac as well as the British-Swedish AstraZeneca.

Sinopharm said in December that its vaccine had a 79.34 percent efficacy rate, lower than rival jabs developed in the West by Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna - with 95 and 94 percent rates respectively.

Beijing has repeatedly insisted that the jab is safe and effective, despite not releasing any detailed clinical trial data.

Cambodia has long been a staunch ally of Beijing's, receiving billions of dollars in soft loans and investments.

While many countries reacted early in the pandemic by closing borders to Chinese travellers, Hun Sen refused to follow suit and he even travelled to Beijing to meet with leader Xi Jinping in a show of solidarity.

Cambodia has weathered the pandemic relatively unscathed, registering only 474 cases with no deaths, though experts say the low numbers are likely due to a lack of testing. (AFP)

[Infected Mushroom]

Lol China and Vietnam aren't friends. They have been at loggerheads for over 40 years.

It's too late to remove Vietnam even if it's true.

The other thing is, some people HAVE voted Vietnam in the polls so I think there may be other interpretations; I'll have to leave it for now.

[New Rogernomics]

I think you have to determine it more by geographical region, and by how certain countries have interacted with China.

North Korea is a friend of China, but China does not appreciate their nuclear program and their more aggressive moves towards other nations in the region. Historically, North Korea has tended to be a buffer-zone, though South Korea and China have a good working and trade relationship now, so North Korea's stance against South Korea and the US is more a hassle for China than anything. As far as foreign policy, China doesn't want a destabilized North Korea, and a re-unified Korea might result in US troops on their border. So I don't think you could realistically call them a 'friend' in the sense of not causing problems for China or the region.

Pakistan and Myanmar are probably their best partners in Asia, though that relationship has its difficulties i.e. both governments can be problematic in terms of trade deals, and China does not want to become embroiled in Pakistan's conflicts with India, as tense as India-China relations can be from time to time.

As far as the Asia-Pacific region, New Zealand is probably their best partner, which is a situation more of a result of NZ's independent foreign policy stances in the past. For instance, NZ stood up to the United States over nuclear ships and nuclear weapons, has always supported China's membership in the WTO and other international organizations, and is careful to not make statements or moves that undermine the working and trading relationship with China. New Zealand was one of the first developed countries to have a free trade deal with China, and recently expanded that deal recently. Contrast this with Australia, which heavily supported the US position to the detriment of relations with China, and has a political establishment that views China as the enemy. Australian officials try to paint things as if the souring of relations came out of the blue, and is purely because of Covid, though Chinese officials argue that their current policy is a response to one-sided hostility by the Australian government over years.

As far as Europe, Germany is probably one of their best partners, though things have been rough recently because of the US-China rift over telecommunications, and of course Covid.

I do know they have working relationships with many nations in Africa and South America, but those relationships are less well developed.

[Miku the Based]

A unified Korea would mean the US out of Korea and a one country two systems type deal. The alternative is not Korea.

[Aogensokyo]

Lol China and Vietnam aren't friends. They have been at loggerheads for over 40 years.

It's too late to remove Vietnam even if it's true.

The other thing is, some people HAVE voted Vietnam in the polls so I think there may be other interpretations; I'll have to leave it for now.

Only 4 people voted Vietnam as of right now. Of course, I highly suspect that you were probably one of them.

[Infected Mushroom]

It's too late to remove Vietnam even if it's true.

The other thing is, some people HAVE voted Vietnam in the polls so I think there may be other interpretations; I'll have to leave it for now.

Only 4 people voted Vietnam as of right now. Of course, I highly suspect that you were probably one of them.

No I went with what I said in OP spoiler

Russia, North Korea, Pakistan

Cambodia and Laos were considered but I didn’t vote (I set to 3 options max per player)

[Halivaara]

Vietnamese here, we still hate China, so don’t insult us by grouping us in with them.

[My Political Fantasy]

Lmao at people saying Russia and China are anti-imperialist.

why do far-left people say this unironically?

[Adamede]

Lmao at people saying Russia and China are anti-imperialist.

why do far-left people say this unironically?

It’s only imperialism when it’s the west.

No joke a real answer I got a while back.

[The Blaatschapen]

Lmao at people saying Russia and China are anti-imperialist.

why do far-left people say this unironically?

It’s only imperialism when it’s the west.

No joke a real answer a while back.

viewtopic.php?p=38311242#p38311242

[Adamede]

It’s only imperialism when it’s the west.

No joke a real answer a while back.

viewtopic.php?p=38311242#p38311242

Just so we’re clear I’m not talking about anyone in this thread.

[Bolslania]

Russia and China have a begrudging relationship, they only work together against America, and even then they still dont like each other.

North Korea is the only country that might truly be allied with China. Most of the world has business relations with China, but thats as far as it goes

[Adamede]

Russia and China have a begrudging relationship, they only work together against America, and even then they still dont like each other.

North Korea is the only country that might truly be allied with China. Most of the world has business relations with China, but thats as far as it goes

North Korea is a buffer state. Not much else.

[Romextly]

I would go with Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan in that order. Russia because of the close cooperation in the UN and in natural resources; also, both are ideologically anti-imperial. North Korea because of the mutual defense understandings, and then Pakistan. I picked Pakistan as 3 because throughout most of the Cold War and even to now, I don’t think China and Pakistan have Had any major disagreements.

That's funny

[Kannap]

Which countries are China’s best friends?

By “best friend” I mean a combination of one or more of the following:
- close economic ties and partnerships
- likelihood of helping each other if invaded (economically, diplomatically and/or politically)
- relevant treaties and agreements
- ideologically

The reason I don’t say “allies” is because a formalized alliance would require a formal treaty/agreement like what you have with NATO. I want to broaden the discussion to include other understandings of national closeness, partnership and friendship. Rather than simply asking... who is formally allied with Beijing, I want ask: who is friendly towards Beijing?

Here is a list of countries to choose from:

Russia (often stands with China in the UN, various huge trade, infrastructure, resource and technology exchanges on-going)
North Korea (has a formal defense agreement with China, China helped North Korea during the Korean War)
Vietnam (ideologically declared Communist)
Laos
Cambodia
Myanmar (traditionally a huge trade partner, not sure about the effects of the coup)
Pakistan (China has traditionally backed Pakistan against India)
The Philippines (huge trade partner)
USA (despite the rhetoric, the USA is still the top market for Chinese exports by far)

Now there could be other states to consider so I will include an Other option.

Please decide which three countries are China’s best friends (who’s likely to act and speak out for China if China is invaded). How do you rank them? Why did you rank this way? Which factors do you focus on? Why this way?

I would go with Russia, North Korea, and Pakistan in that order. Russia because of the close cooperation in the UN and in natural resources; also, both are ideologically anti-imperial. North Korea because of the mutual defense understandings, and then Pakistan. I picked Pakistan as 3 because throughout most of the Cold War and even to now, I don’t think China and Pakistan have Had any major disagreements.

Countries/government structures themselves aren't people and so I try to avoid using humanizing language for them, therefore China doesn't have any friends - no country does - but China, like every other country, engages in diplomacy and trade with probably almost every nation on Earth.

[Insaanistan]

1. Russia
2. North Korea
3. Kazakhstan (ehhhh...)

[Infected Mushroom]

1. Russia
2. North Korea
3. Kazakhstan (ehhhh...)

I hear Kazakhstan is a big player in the belt and road initiative. China and Kazakhstan make good money together.

[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

Pakistan and US.

Pakistan is a bestie because Pakistan and China both hate India
US is a bestie who they fight with all the time but are actually best friends.

Russia is China's friend as they actually have an 'eternal friendship' treaty, but Russia is just scared of China, so they aren't besties, just friends