How much religious freedom is needed?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Potentially unorthodox opinion but I largely support freedoms (sans for groups like Scientology which are just blatant scams made to harm people) but think things like proselytism should by and large not be legal.

From an individualistic POV proselytizing is free speech. What’s really problematic is how children are treated.

[Deacarsia]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

Here we go. Most humans disagree that Roman Catholicism is factually accurate. Is there a way for humans to settle the religious debate?

[Suriyanakhon]

Potentially unorthodox opinion but I largely support freedoms (sans for groups like Scientology which are just blatant scams made to harm people) but think things like proselytism should by and large not be legal.

From an individualistic POV proselytizing is free speech. What’s really problematic is how children are treated.

Most interpretations of individualism are heavily flawed and don't take into account the need for communal peace.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

From an individualistic POV proselytizing is free speech. What’s really problematic is how children are treated.

Most interpretations of individualism are heavily flawed and don't take into account the need for communal peace.

Lol to hell with “communal peace”. It smells so Confucian. If John is a vegan or is Jewish the fact that his mother Linda eats meat or is Catholic is irrelevant.

[Cordel One]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

Good thing Deacarsia isn't a real place.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

Good thing Deacarsia isn't a real place.

It used to be real. Political Catholicism is a thing.

[Suriyanakhon]

Most interpretations of individualism are heavily flawed and don't take into account the need for communal peace.

Lol to hell with “communal peace”. It smells so Confucian. If John is a vegan or is Jewish the fact that his mother Linda eats meat or is Catholic is irrelevant.

That's because the idea of communitarianism isn't exclusive to Confucian cultures but is a core idea to all of them (since communities are by their very nature, communitarian). No one said that something was wrong with John being Jewish or Linda being Catholic, the problem is with the aggressive evangelicalism we see in some circles, where proselytizers end up causing trouble and reignite tensions between religious communities.

[Cordel One]

Good thing Deacarsia isn't a real place.

It used to be real. Political Catholicism is a thing.

You mean the Papal States?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Lol to hell with “communal peace”. It smells so Confucian. If John is a vegan or is Jewish the fact that his mother Linda eats meat or is Catholic is irrelevant.

That's because the idea of communitarianism isn't exclusive to Confucian cultures but is a core idea to all of them (since communities are by their very nature, communitarian). No one said that something was wrong with John being Jewish or Linda being Catholic, the problem is with the aggressive evangelicalism we see in some circles, where proselytizers end up causing trouble and reignite tensions between religious communities.

Communitarianism needs to go to hell.

Evangelization is free speech. It actually does not impede anyone’s freedom and is not restricted to any religion or even religion.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

It used to be real. Political Catholicism is a thing.

You mean the Papal States?

Yup and also other many Catholic states.

[Adamede]

Don’t do anything against peoples wills and don’t mess with kids and we’re cool.

[Disgraces]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Don’t do anything against peoples wills and don’t mess with kids and we’re cool.

The problem is that too many people enjoy doing both.

[Albrenia]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

Sure, but if they're medical workers objecting to doing one's job should be fair cause to fire them.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

Sure, but if they're medical workers objecting to doing one's job should be fair cause to fire them.

There are abortion clinics.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

I agree. I do wonder what’s your opinion on children who decide to choose a different religion compared to their parents.

[Adamede]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

NSG is out of character only.

[Disgraces]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

I agree. I do wonder what’s your opinion on children who decide to choose a different religion compared to their parents.

Good for them..?

[The Alma Mater]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

So should a fundamentalist muslim be allowed to refuse to issue a drivers license to a woman without losing his job ?

[Disgraces]

I do not believe in the principle of religious freedom. All men have a moral obligation to worship God through His Church, as does the State.

However, in heterogeneous societies, some degree of religious toleration might a practical policy for the sake of public order, provided that the Church is given the full favor of the laws to the extent possible.

Thus, the Kingdom of Deacarsia, which I have designed as a wholely Catholic nation, is a fully confessional state, while the arrangement in other nations may vary as the situation may require.

How come your nation is fully Catholic yet it isn't socialist?

[Salus Maior]

Very good take. The media needs shaken up in a big way.

Ok. First we do Religion and then we do the Media.

Eh, I think the media is the most egregious offender.

They are, after all, the ones that are stirring up discontent among everyone in the first place. Religious and secular alike.

[Disgraces]

To the maximum, even to give people the freedom to refuse to perform abortions if so they desire forninstance

So should a fundamentalist muslim be allowed to refuse to issue a drivers license to a woman without losing his job ?

Well there can be exceptions

[Washington Resistance Army]

Lol to hell with “communal peace”. It smells so Confucian. If John is a vegan or is Jewish the fact that his mother Linda eats meat or is Catholic is irrelevant.

That's because the idea of communitarianism isn't exclusive to Confucian cultures but is a core idea to all of them (since communities are by their very nature, communitarian). No one said that something was wrong with John being Jewish or Linda being Catholic, the problem is with the aggressive evangelicalism we see in some circles, where proselytizers end up causing trouble and reignite tensions between religious communities.

This^^^

Proselytism does not work well in a state that does not have an official religion and freedom of religion.

[Salus Maior]

How come your nation is fully Catholic yet it isn't socialist?

Probably because Socialism as an ideology has been condemned by the Catholic Church in the recent past.