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Postby Brulave » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:07 am

Oh boy this is sure controversial aint it.

If i can ask, what nation do they recognise in place of Israel. Is it Palestine or is it something else?

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:23 am

Brulave wrote:Oh boy this is sure controversial aint it.

If i can ask, what nation do they recognise in place of Israel. Is it Palestine or is it something else?

If a nation doesn’t recognize Israel, they almost certainly recognize Palestine.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:29 pm

Vivolkha wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.

Insaanistan wrote:There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.

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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:57 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The really positive news is that Kosovo and Israel relations are improving. On the other hand, I wish bilateral relations to be established under the roof of the united yugoslavia.


Why go 1 step further and unite the entire Balkans under the Byzantine flag.

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Seems like good news

Postby Karlopetrus » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:04 pm

Nations should try to get along in spite of differences. In this case better relations should be good for both nations.I hope nations which have improved ties with the Zionist state can help bring about full human rights and a much better life for the Palestinian people as well as for the Zionists.
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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:30 pm

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The really positive news is that Kosovo and Israel relations are improving. On the other hand, I wish bilateral relations to be established under the roof of the united yugoslavia.


Why go 1 step further and unite the entire Balkans under the Byzantine flag.

No.
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Postby Vivolkha » Wed Feb 03, 2021 1:34 pm

Brulave wrote:Oh boy this is sure controversial aint it.

If i can ask, what nation do they recognise in place of Israel. Is it Palestine or is it something else?

Insaanistan wrote:
Brulave wrote:Oh boy this is sure controversial aint it.

If i can ask, what nation do they recognise in place of Israel. Is it Palestine or is it something else?

If a nation doesn’t recognize Israel, they almost certainly recognize Palestine.

All UN members recognize either Israel, Palestine or both. No exceptions.
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Postby -Ocelot- » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:15 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
Why go 1 step further and unite the entire Balkans under the Byzantine flag.

No.


So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

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Postby Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:23 pm

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Insaanistan wrote:No.


So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

I also don’t want Yugoslavia back.
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Postby Adamede » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:36 pm

-Ocelot- wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:No.


So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

Byzantium is dead bro. The Turks saw to that.

Regardless Insaan wasn’t arguing for uniting arbitrary Balkan nations.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Feb 04, 2021 12:48 am

Insaanistan wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

I also don’t want Yugoslavia back.
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How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.


Peoples feelings on the matter have no bearing on if it was legitimate or not. We already learned from Donbass some years ago that these referendums were not legitimate. Maybe you've forgotten the videos of car trunks full of pre-filled yes votes, but I haven't.


I didn't realize that DonBass was Crimea, but hey, I'm down for Referendums, always have been. Let's have international peacekeeping forces enter Crimea for a period of three months, with mixed units, each including NATO, SCO, and neutral forces, heavily equipped with cameras, and let whomever campaign however they want to campaign, provided that it's done without threats, violence, etc. But, once the Referendum is held, everyone must recognize the result. And we'll have open media, neutral monitoring, whatever you want. Sound fair?
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Postby Jarvikan » Thu Feb 04, 2021 1:51 am

Insaanistan wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

I also don’t want Yugoslavia back.


Yeah,I can see why.You are so scared about any nation supporting Israel,having a few into a big nation is even worse!Maybe if that happens then Israel may still exist!How scary!

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Postby Vivolkha » Thu Feb 04, 2021 2:48 am

Insaanistan wrote:
-Ocelot- wrote:
So the line is drawn on USSR's Balkan-based teratoma? Why? If we are going to arbitrarily consolidate sovereign Balkan nations like Albania, Kosovo or Bulgaria, why not do so under the glorious Eastern Roman flag? Sounds better to me.

I also don’t want Yugoslavia back.

This and bringing back the German Empire are some of the most bizarre common dreams NS users have.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Feb 04, 2021 4:44 am

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Insaanistan wrote:I also don’t want Yugoslavia back.


Yeah,I can see why.You are so scared about any nation supporting Israel,having a few into a big nation is even worse!Maybe if that happens then Israel may still exist!How scary!
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:42 am

Brulave wrote:Oh boy this is sure controversial aint it.

If i can ask, what nation do they recognise in place of Israel. Is it Palestine or is it something else?


The end of Israel will inevitably lead to economic collapse and the end of human rights in the region.
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:42 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Jarvikan wrote:
Yeah,I can see why.You are so scared about any nation supporting Israel,having a few into a big nation is even worse!Maybe if that happens then Israel may still exist!How scary!
Anti-Israelis are not afraid of Israel itself, they fear that the misogynist evil political Islamic cultures they fear will be harmed. I am telling the political Islamists, you are right, we are trying to destroy political Islam. The Real Ideology that political Islamists and Political Jews fear is Secularism.
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I do actually wonder why people hate Israel. It makes absolutely no sense to hate a country slightly larger than Massachusetts.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:44 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Anti-Israelis are not afraid of Israel itself, they fear that the misogynist evil political Islamic cultures they fear will be harmed. I am telling the political Islamists, you are right, we are trying to destroy political Islam. The Real Ideology that political Islamists and Political Jews fear is Secularism.
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I do actually wonder why people hate Israel. It makes absolutely no sense to hate a country slightly larger than Massachusetts.

why is the size of israel relevant
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Thu Feb 04, 2021 5:48 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
I do actually wonder why people hate Israel. It makes absolutely no sense to hate a country slightly larger than Massachusetts.

why is the size of israel relevant


Because it refutes the so-called Jewish conspiracies. I do worry about Israel because its enemies are utterly ruthless and that it has been very reluctant to gain more strategic depths than it should.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:10 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:why is the size of israel relevant


Because it refutes the so-called Jewish conspiracies.

not really?

i dont support antisemitic conspiracy theories but the physical size of Israel has little meaning as to how powerful it is, unless Israel was some kind of microstate
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:14 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Because it refutes the so-called Jewish conspiracies.

not really?

i dont support antisemitic conspiracy theories but the physical size of Israel has little meaning as to how powerful it is, unless Israel was some kind of microstate


Israel needs to be a lot more powerful than it currently is. Compared to even Crusader states Israel is very small and hence even more vulnerable to attacks. The strategic situation of Israel is very horrible since it is surrounded by much larger hostile powers.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:25 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:not really?

i dont support antisemitic conspiracy theories but the physical size of Israel has little meaning as to how powerful it is, unless Israel was some kind of microstate


Israel needs to be a lot more powerful than it currently is. Compared to even Crusader states Israel is very small and hence even more vulnerable to attacks. The strategic situation of Israel is very horrible since it is surrounded by much larger hostile powers.

Physical size =/= power

Compare France and Kazakhstan for example
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Thu Feb 04, 2021 6:28 am

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
Israel needs to be a lot more powerful than it currently is. Compared to even Crusader states Israel is very small and hence even more vulnerable to attacks. The strategic situation of Israel is very horrible since it is surrounded by much larger hostile powers.

Physical size =/= power

Compare France and Kazakhstan for example


Sure but size and demographics do matter. In fact they matter a lot. Humans are not that unequal so the amount of humans do matter.
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Postby Insaanistan » Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:58 am

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Anti-Israelis are not afraid of Israel itself, they fear that the misogynist evil political Islamic cultures they fear will be harmed. I am telling the political Islamists, you are right, we are trying to destroy political Islam. The Real Ideology that political Islamists and Political Jews fear is Secularism.
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I do actually wonder why people hate Israel. It makes absolutely no sense to hate a country slightly larger than Massachusetts.


Okay again, shooting kids for protesting, imprisoning them for throwing rocks at tanks, building illegal settlements and cutting the people already there off from water, constantly bombing the world’s largest open air prison (which you operate), and taking frequent holidays into other countries’ land with your fighter Jets and having good fun blowing stuff up are all reasons for someone to hate you.
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:07 am

Insaanistan wrote:
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:
I do actually wonder why people hate Israel. It makes absolutely no sense to hate a country slightly larger than Massachusetts.


Okay again, shooting kids for protesting, imprisoning them for throwing rocks at tanks, building illegal settlements and cutting the people already there off from water, constantly bombing the world’s largest open air prison (which you operate), and taking frequent holidays into other countries’ land with your fighter Jets and having good fun blowing stuff up are all reasons for someone to hate you.
You are right, these are really bad things, I support you in this regard, but there is a brutality in all states ruled by anti-Israel, especially political Islam. But on the other hand, the hatred of the political Islamists is not because of this, but the political Islamists try to protect their bad culture, I say that LGBT and Islam should be lived freely with tolerance. The only solution to tolerance is the separation of religion and state affairs. the same is true in israel
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