Kosovo Establishes Ties with Israel

[Adamede]

And Kosovo functions as an independent nation and is recognized as such by around half of the world’s nations.

Yeah? I agree?

I also treat Kosovo as an independent state

The context of my comment was that someone said that Kosovo was a part of Serbia. I was just seeing if they’re being consistent. I frankly don’t give a shit about what goes on in Eastern Europe.

[Atheris]

Rightfully, yes.

If they can not back up their territorial claims then it's not theirs. Your opinion will not change that fact.

The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.

[Miku the Based]

I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.

[Shofercia]

If they can not back up their territorial claims then it's not theirs. Your opinion will not change that fact.

The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.

Those damn commies at Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... w-to-kiev/

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.

Those damn commies at Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... w-to-kiev/

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.

It is of course not surprising that most Crimeans want to be in Russia: they are ethnic Russians and Russia is richer than Ukraine lol. Crimea should have never been a part of Ukraine to begin with..

As for Kosovo it needs a partition.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

If they can not back up their territorial claims then it's not theirs. Your opinion will not change that fact.

The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.

Crimea and Donbass are actually not the same. The entire Ukrainian crisis is a consequence of the borders of Russia and Ukraine not being drawn properly from an ethnic point of view. It is not very different from issues such as whether Lviv should be in Poland.

Actually I have a new proposal: there needs to be a second Jewish state in East Europe. Demographic changes caused by Shoah are illegitimate and a second Jewish homeland using pre-1939 demographics needs to be set up. It’s capital can be Lviv, Lublin or something. Considering that what used to be Congress Poland was the most Jewish part of the world with more than 15% of the residents in 1900 Jewish the second Jewish state needs to be mostly there.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

I wonder what your attitude will be when Kosovo and Israel establish very strong bilateral relations ? What would your attitude be if Israel had close ties with Armenia and Saudi Arabia ?

It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.

It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.

The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialism

They aren't though.

Russia occupies them. They are controlled by Russia, esp. in the case of Crimea.

Crimea is Tatar
Crimea is Ukrainian.

Crimea belongs neither to Ukraine nor to Russia. It belongs to the Crimean Crimean Tatars !

[Shofercia]

It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.

It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.

The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialism

Crimea is Tatar
Crimea is Ukrainian.

Crimea belongs neither to Ukraine nor to Russia. It belongs to the Crimean Crimean Tatars !

Nope

[Jarvikan]

I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.

Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help

https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.

Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help

https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8

Can you not bash social liberalism while supporting the just cause of Israel? Support of Israel should be common sense, not something dependent on domestic politics of America.

Anyone who respects women’s rights should support Israel.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.

[Washington Resistance Army]

The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.

Those damn commies at Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... w-to-kiev/

In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.

In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.

How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.

Peoples feelings on the matter have no bearing on if it was legitimate or not. We already learned from Donbass some years ago that these referendums were not legitimate. Maybe you've forgotten the videos of car trunks full of pre-filled yes votes, but I haven't.

[SD_Film Artists]

It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.

It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.

The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialism

I'm not sure how that's relevant but ok.

[Vivolkha]

It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.

It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.

The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialism

To their credit, the UAE is beginning to develop a research sector as well. Their Space Agency has sent a mission to Mars and is planning one to the Moon, for example.

[Psychopathic Marxists]

Ship of Israel: Israel has just become an independent state, but some think that it is not legitimate. 3 generations later Israel exists but some people think it is illigitimate. Did Israel ever become legitimate or is it still illigitimate based on the passage of time?

[Vivolkha]

Ship of Israel: Israel has just become an independent state, but some think that it is not legitimate. 3 generations later Israel exists but some people think it is illigitimate. Did Israel ever become legitimate or is it still illigitimate based on the passage of time?

Countries around the world are just realizing that Israel exists and isn't going anywhere regardless of what people think on the matter. Not recognizing them based on different interpretations of historical events distorted by religion and ideology is pointless.

[Insaanistan]

Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

[Insaanistan]

Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

[Insaanistan]

Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help

https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8

Can you not bash social liberalism while supporting the just cause of Israel? Support of Israel should be common sense, not something dependent on domestic politics of America.

Anyone who respects women’s rights should support Israel.

Israel:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.haaret ... -1.5466264
Meanwhile, the Arab World:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washin ... utType=amp

Does this mean the Arab World is perfect? Dear God, no! (Notice the “Abolish” Kafala in my sig). But Israel certainly isn’t either, especially if you’re black or Arab (not to mention if you’re both!) The fact Israel is more gay friendly doesn’t change the fact they operate the world’s largest open air prison, lockup kids for chucking rocks or kill them for protesting, and build illegal settlements.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.

Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help

https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8

This video hasn't aged one bit in six years. I still agree with every single word Pat Condell has said about Israel and its detractors. Every. Single. Word.

[Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum]

Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.

[Insaanistan]

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.

There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.

[Vivolkha]

There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.

There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.

Neither of these gets us anywhere.

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

Last two sentences kind of contradict themselves. Gulf states aren't doing that bad, in particular the UAE and Qatar which have lower reliance on oil.

[Kubra]

No, what the EU is opposed to is the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, not Kosovo recognizing Israel.

I mean can you blame em
Tel Aviv is fucking tight, just bumping. Jerusalem's nightlife is a pint while getting loudly denounced by a methodist tourist.

[Insaanistan]

There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.

There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.

Neither of these gets us anywhere.

Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.

Last two sentences kind of contradict themselves. Gulf states aren't doing that bad, in particular the UAE and Qatar which have lower reliance on oil.

I was just bringing up a counter point. Anyone can do anything in anything’s name.

And yeah, I guess they do a bit.