The context of my comment was that someone said that Kosovo was a part of Serbia. I was just seeing if they’re being consistent. I frankly don’t give a shit about what goes on in Eastern Europe.
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by Atheris » Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:15 pm
by Miku the Based » Tue Feb 02, 2021 6:27 pm
by Shofercia » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:21 pm
Atheris wrote:Qihein wrote:If they can not back up their territorial claims then it's not theirs. Your opinion will not change that fact.
The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.
In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.
In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:42 pm
Shofercia wrote:Atheris wrote:The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.
Those damn commies at Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... w-to-kiev/In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.
In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.
How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Feb 02, 2021 10:46 pm
Atheris wrote:Qihein wrote:If they can not back up their territorial claims then it's not theirs. Your opinion will not change that fact.
The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Tue Feb 02, 2021 11:47 pm
The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialismSD_Film Artists wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I wonder what your attitude will be when Kosovo and Israel establish very strong bilateral relations ? What would your attitude be if Israel had close ties with Armenia and Saudi Arabia ?
It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.
It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.
Crimea belongs neither to Ukraine nor to Russia. It belongs to the Crimean Crimean Tatars !
by Shofercia » Wed Feb 03, 2021 12:01 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialismSD_Film Artists wrote:
It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.
It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.Crimea belongs neither to Ukraine nor to Russia. It belongs to the Crimean Crimean Tatars !
by Jarvikan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:37 am
Miku the Based wrote:I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.
by Nekostan-e Gharbi » Wed Feb 03, 2021 2:38 am
Jarvikan wrote:Miku the Based wrote:I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.
Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help
https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Feb 03, 2021 4:29 am
by Washington Resistance Army » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:10 am
Shofercia wrote:Atheris wrote:The occupation of Donbass and Crimea is an illegal foreign occupation. If it was a legitimate referendum without being promoted by violent terrorist groups then I'd accept them as being part of Russia. They are under foreign occupation, though, with no legal backing.
Those damn commies at Forbes: https://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/ ... w-to-kiev/In June 2014, a Gallup poll with the Broadcasting Board of Governors asked Crimeans if the results in the March 16, 2014 referendum to secede reflected the views of the people. A total of 82.8% of Crimeans said yes. When broken down by ethnicity, 93.6% of ethnic Russians said they believed the vote to secede was legitimate, while 68.4% of Ukrainians felt so. Moreover, when asked if joining Russia will ultimately make life better for them and their family, 73.9% said yes while 5.5% said no.
In February 2015, a poll by German polling firm GfK revealed that attitudes have not changed. When asked “Do you endorse Russia’s annexation of Crimea?”, a total of 82% of the respondents answered “yes, definitely,” and another 11% answered “yes, for the most part.” Only 2% said they didn't know, and another 2% said no. Three percent did not specify their position.
How about we do a poll like that in North Kosovo, cause the locals in Crimea want to be with Russia, and have said so repeatedly.
by SD_Film Artists » Wed Feb 03, 2021 6:28 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialismSD_Film Artists wrote:
It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.
It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.
by Vivolkha » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:19 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:The scientific data that Israel has developed alone is more than the entire Arab world. Political Islam exists only to serve the bosses of imperialismSD_Film Artists wrote:
It'd be surprised if they have close ties with Armenia; not that the average Israeli hates Armenia but I'd guess that relations would be frosty with how influential Israeli drones were in the recent Armenian-Azeri conflict.
It would be good if Saudi Arabia had more public ties with Israel as it would continue to dispel the myth that Palestine's struggle is every Arab's struggle.
by Psychopathic Marxists » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:29 am
by Vivolkha » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:32 am
Psychopathic Marxists wrote:Ship of Israel: Israel has just become an independent state, but some think that it is not legitimate. 3 generations later Israel exists but some people think it is illigitimate. Did Israel ever become legitimate or is it still illigitimate based on the passage of time?
by Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 7:56 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.
by Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:02 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.
by Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 8:07 am
Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Jarvikan wrote:Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help
https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8
Can you not bash social liberalism while supporting the just cause of Israel? Support of Israel should be common sense, not something dependent on domestic politics of America.
Anyone who respects women’s rights should support Israel.
by Glorious Hong Kong » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:30 am
Jarvikan wrote:Miku the Based wrote:I support Einstein decisions of moving the Jews after the second war to the UK. Not Zionists idea to move them all to Jerusalem then establish citizenship of all Jews around world to this one little place while ignoring any sovereignty or agency of the non-jew inhabitants living there before '46.
I recognize the location of Israel to be in the UK. The region that is between Lebanon and the red river is a colony/apartheid state where Palestinians do not have full citizenship and the implied rights that are given by the state known as Israel.
Oh shut up.Apartheid state?Stop believing your woke American white girl lies and open up to the whole world.this should help
https://youtu.be/HHC8KC5cLs8
by Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:33 am
There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.Insaanistan wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Science is the greatest enemy of political Islam, we, as soldiers of the social democratic secular front, will never stop speaking the truth.I am not saying that every Israeli behavior is correct, but the Arab world should learn a little lesson from the Israeli state.I hope one day Israel's relations with the united yugoslavia will be good.
Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.
by Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:47 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.Insaanistan wrote:Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.
by Vivolkha » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:54 am
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.
Insaanistan wrote:There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.
Insaanistan wrote:Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.
by Kubra » Wed Feb 03, 2021 9:57 am
I mean can you blame emVivolkha wrote:No, what the EU is opposed to is the recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital, not Kosovo recognizing Israel.
by Insaanistan » Wed Feb 03, 2021 10:02 am
Vivolkha wrote:Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There are great crimes against humanity in this period when political Islam came. Political Islam kills, but science keeps you alive.It is really good news that the two states establish bilateral relations with each other. Political Islamists will get used to it.Insaanistan wrote:There are also great crimes against humanity committed by scientists and in the name of science.
Neither of these gets us anywhere.Insaanistan wrote:Eh, not really. Look at the Islamic Golden Age.
The modern Arab states are just in general kinda useless.
Also, the UAE is quite scientifically advanced.
Last two sentences kind of contradict themselves. Gulf states aren't doing that bad, in particular the UAE and Qatar which have lower reliance on oil.
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