Rochester NY police pepper spray 9 year old girl

[Dorylaeumnia]

NY police have a reputation of being corrupt, so definitely someone was drunk, someone was high, and someone was both. Don't blame them though, NY is a shitty state.

Not just NY police or even US police, this is a problem worldwide with police as an institution.

Even if the police needs reform, there are some police forces that are pretty good. If you are going to replace police with another form of law enforcement.

US police isn't that good, but at the moment it's the best form of law enforcement its people have. To prevent incidents like these we must make some changes such as bringing social workers to incidents involving minors.

[Shahrukh]

I dont blame the police entirely though, it was pretty hard to reasonably sort out on its own. Uncooperative people at a busy scene, filled with trigger happy unskilled officers? I dont think I could have done anything better besides spraying the girl in the face w/ pepper spray.

I have a hard time determining whether or not you're justifying using chemical weapons on a child in peacetime, and that worries me.

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

[San Lumen]

I see. well, I guess we can add child abuse to the vast array of police brutality cases.

But seriously this is really not helping their image in the slightest, if the police forces in the US had any sort of brain they'd consider maybe not being so brutal in their tactics. Just a thought.

I dont think they care at this point. They know the union and their fellow officers will always back them up and they will almost never get convicted hence why I';d fire the union president to send a clear message and if the rank and file officers didn't;t like tough.

a way to get change is to elect new District Attorney's and sheriffs along with new people to the city council and mayorship who will bring a about change. Rochester will be one of those places having municipal elections this year.

[Tranzoria]

Using Chemical Weapons at all is bad. Pepper Spray is VERY lethal. Could kill you with one spray.

Who in the right mind would think spraying an irritant made for bears on a distressed child will get her to stop crying!

No one in there right mind. Or in this case, no one having a right mind.

[Tranzoria]

I have a hard time determining whether or not you're justifying using chemical weapons on a child in peacetime, and that worries me.

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

Excuse me, what is tough about helping a depressed girl and stop her from homicide and suicide instead of handcuffing her and increasing the chances of suicide?

[Dorylaeumnia]

I see. well, I guess we can add child abuse to the vast array of police brutality cases.

But seriously this is really not helping their image in the slightest, if the police forces in the US had any sort of brain they'd consider maybe not being so brutal in their tactics. Just a thought.

It probably involves impulse.

Note: I'm not referring to this incident, but police brutality incidents in general.

[Vassenor]

I have a hard time determining whether or not you're justifying using chemical weapons on a child in peacetime, and that worries me.

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

And what about this tough situation justifies using chemical weapons on a child?

[Arisyan]

I have a hard time determining whether or not you're justifying using chemical weapons on a child in peacetime, and that worries me.

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

this is a certified bruh moment right here.

[Tranzoria]

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

And what about this tough situation justifies using chemical weapons on a child?

And then proceeding to arrest her.

[Major-Tom]

Imagine defending this. I mean, many people will, but the mental gymnastics you have to do to actually defend it without exposing your dark psyche, oof, must be rough.

[San Lumen]

I am not. I am just saying the blame should not entirely fall on the officers, it was a tough situation.

And what about this tough situation justifies using chemical weapons on a child?

Nothing hence why firing the union president would send a clear message that this is unacceptable and if the rank and file officers are mad about that tough.

[Tranzoria]

And what about this tough situation justifies using chemical weapons on a child?

Nothing hence why firing the union president would send a clear message that this is unacceptable and if the rank and file officers are mad about that tough.

It's Upstate. No way that message will be kept forever.

[San Lumen]

Nothing hence why firing the union president would send a clear message that this is unacceptable and if the rank and file officers are mad about that tough.

It's Upstate. No way that message will be kept forever.

what does being Upstate have to do with it?

[Wink Wonk We Like Stonks]

tired of the police doing this dumb shit. what do we have to do to get them to realize this isn't ok and stop, stage a revolution or something?

[San Lumen]

tired of the police doing this dumb shit. what do we have to do to get them to realize this isn't ok and stop, stage a revolution or something?

Elect new DA's and sheriffs is a good start. Start firing union presidents who defend this stuff.

[Sanghyeok]

tired of the police doing this dumb shit. what do we have to do to get them to realize this isn't ok and stop, stage a revolution or something?

Elect new DA's and sheriffs is a good start. Start firing union presidents who defend this stuff.

Our resident DPA member reminds us that voting can solve any problem, and the undefeated, battle-hardened Democratic politicians will sweep all corruption and abuse aside. Just ignore the fact that they're the other corporate party that would probably prefer the status quo more than any major reforms.

[San Lumen]

Elect new DA's and sheriffs is a good start. Start firing union presidents who defend this stuff.

Our resident DPA member reminds us that voting can solve any problem, and the undefeated, battle-hardened Democratic politicians will sweep all corruption and abuse aside. Just ignore the fact that they're the other corporate party that would probably prefer the status quo more than any major reforms.

and nothing changes by not voting. Sure protests and contacting your representatives can make a difference changing the the people in charge is a major way to bring about change.

[Karlopetrus]

No excuses.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Not just NY police or even US police, this is a problem worldwide with police as an institution.

I dont blame the police entirely though, it was pretty hard to reasonably sort out on its own. Uncooperative people at a busy scene, filled with trigger happy unskilled officers? I dont think I could have done anything better besides spraying the girl in the face w/ pepper spray.

I'm 100% convinced I would not feel the need to use pepper spray on an unarmed child. Teddy bears and promises of a trip to the ice cream parlor work far better than assaulting kids, but that's just a me thing since I think people who mess with kids or animals are the lowest of the low and truly are the leeches of the world.

[San Lumen]

I dont blame the police entirely though, it was pretty hard to reasonably sort out on its own. Uncooperative people at a busy scene, filled with trigger happy unskilled officers? I dont think I could have done anything better besides spraying the girl in the face w/ pepper spray.

I'm 100% convinced I would not feel the need to use pepper spray on an unarmed child. Teddy bears and promises of a trip to the ice cream parlor work far better than assaulting kids, but that's just a me thing since I think people who mess with kids or animals are the lowest of the low and truly are the leeches of the world.

I agree one hundred percent which is why a message needs to be sent with not only the firing of these officers but the union president who defended their actions. If you can't denounce assault on a child you have no business being a cop and if the rank and file officers were mad about their union president being fired "i'd say don't care. Your not infallible and not stop acting like a brotherhood"

[Cordel One]

Our resident DPA member reminds us that voting can solve any problem, and the undefeated, battle-hardened Democratic politicians will sweep all corruption and abuse aside. Just ignore the fact that they're the other corporate party that would probably prefer the status quo more than any major reforms.

and nothing changes by not voting. Sure protests and contacting your representatives can make a difference changing the the people in charge is a major way to bring about change.

That's not true at all, unless you live in an alternate universe where revolutions and direct action never succeeds.

The system is too corrupt to be changed by voting.

[San Lumen]

and nothing changes by not voting. Sure protests and contacting your representatives can make a difference changing the the people in charge is a major way to bring about change.

That's not true at all, unless you live in an alternate universe where revolutions and direct action never succeeds.

The system is too corrupt to be changed by voting.

Notice how i said combined with voting. District attorneys and sheriffs are elected in most places.

[Cordel One]

That's not true at all, unless you live in an alternate universe where revolutions and direct action never succeeds.

The system is too corrupt to be changed by voting.

Notice how i said combined with voting. District attorneys and sheriffs are elected in most places.

And the United States is still a militaristic, oligarchic police state.

[San Lumen]

Notice how i said combined with voting. District attorneys and sheriffs are elected in most places.

And the United States is still a militaristic, oligarchic police state.

You can help change that by electing new district attorneys and sheriffs.

[Sanghyeok]

And the United States is still a militaristic, oligarchic police state.

You can help change that by electing new district attorneys and sheriffs.

"I acknowledge voting cannot solve many problems."
"Just participate in elections!"