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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:56 am

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Adamede wrote:I know you’ve got a hate boner for the US but there’s other players on the world stage dude.
There is no such thing, I'm just saying my free opinion, please don't brand me as an American enemy. I wonder what percent of the world's arms production is produced in the United States.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:57 am

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Cordel One wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but I don't think so. This kinda coup isn't quite our style.
Are you saying that the United States intervened in the internal affairs of many countries and supported the coups politically and financially, but that the USA was not in the Myanmar coup ?

Are you saying that Russia and China, both clearly closer to Southeast Asia, don't do the exact same thing?
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Postby Adamede » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:57 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but I don't think so. This kinda coup isn't quite our style.
Are you saying that the United States intervened in the internal affairs of many countries and supported the coups politically and financially, but that the USA was not in the Myanmar coup ?

Yah. The US isn’t the only state have ever overthrown another nations government dude.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 10:58 am

Adamede wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Are you saying that the United States intervened in the internal affairs of many countries and supported the coups politically and financially, but that the USA was not in the Myanmar coup ?

Yah. The US isn’t the only state have ever overthrown another nations government dude.

Exactly...and guess what two states like to Coup Nations just as much as the US and are close to Southeast Asia...
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Postby Cordel One » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:01 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but I don't think so. This kinda coup isn't quite our style.
Are you saying that the United States intervened in the internal affairs of many countries and supported the coups politically and financially, but that the USA was not in the Myanmar coup ?

I am not saying that.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:13 am

Cordel One wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Are you saying that the United States intervened in the internal affairs of many countries and supported the coups politically and financially, but that the USA was not in the Myanmar coup ?

I am not saying that.
Cordel One wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but I don't think so.This kinda coup isn't quite our style.
Please explain what you are trying to say in the sentence "This kind of blow is not our style." Would it be the style of a state that has not planned a coup politically and financially before ?
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:16 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Cordel One wrote:I am not saying that.
Cordel One wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if it was, but I don't think so.This kinda coup isn't quite our style.
Please explain what you are trying to say in the sentence "This kind of blow is not our style." Would it be the style of a state that has not planned a coup politically and financially before ?

Again, Russia and China.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:07 pm

And....the Junta blocked Twitter.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Tranzoria wrote:And....the Junta blocked Twitter.

Only in the capital, so far

Also, I think they’ve formed a government in exile but it’s still inside the country???
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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:17 pm

Tranzoria wrote:And....the Junta blocked Twitter.

Yeah, no sh*t.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:25 pm

The following Security Council press statement was issued today by Council President Barbara Woodward (United Kingdom):

The members of the Security Council expressed deep concern at the declaration of the state of emergency imposed in Myanmar by the military on 1 February and the arbitrary detention of members of the Government, including State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi and President Win Myint and others. They called for the immediate release of all those detained.

The members of the Security Council emphasized the need for the continued support of the democratic transition in Myanmar. They stressed the need to uphold democratic institutions and processes, refrain from violence and fully respect human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law. They encouraged the pursuance of dialogue and reconciliation in accordance with the will and interests of the people of Myanmar.

The members of the Security Council expressed concern at the restrictions on civil society, journalists and media workers. They also called for safe and unimpeded humanitarian access to all people in need, including through the re‑establishment of United Nations relief flights.

The members of the Security Council reiterated their strong support to regional organizations, in particular the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and welcomed the ASEAN Chair’s Statement dated 1 February. They also reiterated their support to the Special Envoy of the Secretary-General on Myanmar for her good offices.

The members of the Security Council reiterated the need to address the root causes of the crisis in Rakhine State and to create conditions necessary for the safe, voluntary, sustainable and dignified return of displaced persons.

The members of the Security Council reaffirmed their strong commitment to the sovereignty, political independence, territorial integrity and unity of Myanmar.


Not even strongly worded
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:28 pm

Insaanistan wrote:
Tranzoria wrote:And....the Junta blocked Twitter.

Yeah, no sh*t.

They actually didn't want to do it, just that the Populace flocked to it after they block Facebook.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:29 pm

Kowani wrote:
The following Security Council press statement was issued today by Council President Barbara Woodward (United Kingdom):

The members of the Security Council expressed deep concern at the declaration of the state of emergency imposed in Myanmar by the military on 1 February and the arbitrary detention of members of the Government, including State Counsellor Aung San Suu Kyi and President Win Myint and others. They called for the immediate release of all those detained.

The members of the Security Council emphasized the need for the continued support of the democratic transition in Myanmar. They stressed the need to uphold democratic institutions and processes, refrain from violence and fully respect human rights, fundamental freedoms and the rule of law. They encouraged the pursuance of dialogue and reconciliation in accordance with the will and interests of the people of Myanmar.

The members of the Security Council expressed concern at the restrictions on civil society, journalists and media workers. They also called for safe and unimpeded humanitarian access to all people in need, including through the re‑establishment of United Nations relief flights.

The members of the Security Council reiterated their strong support to regional organizations, in particular the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) and welcomed the ASEAN Chair’s Statement dated 1 February. They also reiterated their support to the Special Envoy of the Secretary-General on Myanmar for her good offices.

The members of the Security Council reiterated the need to address the root causes of the crisis in Rakhine State and to create conditions necessary for the safe, voluntary, sustainable and dignified return of displaced persons.

The members of the Security Council reaffirmed their strong commitment to the sovereignty, political independence, territorial integrity and unity of Myanmar.


Not even strongly worded

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Postby Insaanistan » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:46 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
Insaanistan wrote:Yeah, no sh*t.

They actually didn't want to do it, just that the Populace flocked to it after they block Facebook.

That’s why I thought it was obvious.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:50 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:There is no such thing, I'm just saying my free opinion, please don't brand me as an American enemy. I wonder what percent of the world's arms production is produced in the United States.
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Why I don’t see china arm sales

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Postby ImperialRussia » Fri Feb 05, 2021 12:51 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:Please explain what you are trying to say in the sentence "This kind of blow is not our style." Would it be the style of a state that has not planned a coup politically and financially before ?

Again, Russia and China.

Must be Russian and Chinese arm sales then so your right

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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:22 pm

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Why I don’t see china arm sales

For context, the two slots who don' have a nation on them are South Korea and, of course, China.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:23 pm

ImperialRussia wrote:
Tranzoria wrote:Again, Russia and China.

Must be Russian and Chinese arm sales then so your right

I doubt they are using international weapons just bought recently, since it's the Military.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:28 pm

Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:29 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.

Most definitely, they are. They know what the Populace would think of more Communism, so they went far-right instead.
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Postby Kowani » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:34 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.

From my understanding , a lot of their thought is shaped by extreme conservatism, nationalism, and a strong Buddhist social hierarchy.

Also…of course they love militarism. They’re the military
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:40 pm

Kowani wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.

From my understanding , a lot of their thought is shaped by extreme conservatism, nationalism, and a strong Buddhist social hierarchy.

Also…of course they love militarism. They’re the military

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:42 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.

There are militant Buddhists in it, they definitely love militarism considering they are the military, and they’re authoritarian, so you could make the case they might
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Postby Tranzoria » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:43 pm

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Borderlands of Rojava wrote:Does the military of Myanmar count as fascist? They seem to love tyranny, militarism and ethnic supremacy alot.

There are militant Buddhists in it, they definitely love militarism considering they are the military, and they’re authoritarian, so you could make the case they might

I wouldn't say that extreme to be Fascist, but more or less an extreme conservative military junta.
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