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Postby Thermodolia » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:19 pm

Valentine Z wrote:The fact that you are all gleefully shouting for war while I'm worrying fret over here for my friends and relatives back there is uncomfortably disturbing.

Though of course, even in my optimistic views, I unfortunately am aware that there is a very good chance violence might break out. I would really rather that we don't preach war and make this through even with the unreasonable military looming over us.

Addendum: Third day of Civil Disobedience. So far, so good. Well, as "good" as it can get without any escalation.

I’m not gleefully shouting for war just recognizing that it’s a possibility at this point and maybe an inevitability. The US media has been war hawking for awhile now.
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Postby Shrillland » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:24 pm

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San Lumen wrote:I very much doubt we will.

We most likely will. Biden is positioning the US to be the global force for good ala what Bush did back in 03. Myanmar is small enough that an invasion isn’t going to ruffle too many feathers and would technically knock a chinese ally out of position giving a better boost to US foreign policy regarding China


Small? 54 million in a country of mountains and jungles that doesn't have road connections to its neighbours and half of its roads becoming impassible for armoured vehicles in the intense monsoon during the summer months is small? It took the British three years to get to Rangoon, the US military isn't designed for such warfare.
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Postby Dresderstan » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:33 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:We most likely will. Biden is positioning the US to be the global force for good ala what Bush did back in 03. Myanmar is small enough that an invasion isn’t going to ruffle too many feathers and would technically knock a chinese ally out of position giving a better boost to US foreign policy regarding China


Small? 54 million in a country of mountains and jungles that doesn't have road connections to its neighbours and half of its roads becoming impassible for armored vehicles in the intense monsoon during the summer months is small? It took the British three years to get to Rangoon, the US military isn't designed for such warfare.

Also we don't need Vietnam flashbacks.

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Feb 04, 2021 8:41 pm

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Thermodolia wrote:We most likely will. Biden is positioning the US to be the global force for good ala what Bush did back in 03. Myanmar is small enough that an invasion isn’t going to ruffle too many feathers and would technically knock a chinese ally out of position giving a better boost to US foreign policy regarding China


Small? 54 million in a country of mountains and jungles that doesn't have road connections to its neighbours and half of its roads becoming impassible for armoured vehicles in the intense monsoon during the summer months is small? It took the British three years to get to Rangoon, the US military isn't designed for such warfare.

Like I posted on the other thread, a prolonged guerrilla war generates more revenue for Lockheed Martin so it would be considered a win by the warmongers
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Postby Valentine Z » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:11 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Valentine Z wrote:The fact that you are all gleefully shouting for war while I'm worrying fret over here for my friends and relatives back there is uncomfortably disturbing.

Though of course, even in my optimistic views, I unfortunately am aware that there is a very good chance violence might break out. I would really rather that we don't preach war and make this through even with the unreasonable military looming over us.

Addendum: Third day of Civil Disobedience. So far, so good. Well, as "good" as it can get without any escalation.

I’m not gleefully shouting for war just recognizing that it’s a possibility at this point and maybe an inevitability. The US media has been war hawking for awhile now.

And that unfortunately, while I hate to admit it, is true. :/

Yeah, I apologise for the outburst, but no matter where, and especially because it's my homeland out of all places, I just hope it ends peacefully, though I have a very awful gut feeling that someone's going to throw a spark.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:40 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
San Lumen wrote:I very much doubt we will.

We most likely will. Biden is positioning the US to be the global force for good ala what Bush did back in 03. Myanmar is small enough that an invasion isn’t going to ruffle too many feathers and would technically knock a chinese ally out of position giving a better boost to US foreign policy regarding China


I think the Vietnam War should serve as a warning about Myanmar. You send US soldiers to Myanmar and thousands will die in very horrifying ways.
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Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:41 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
Small? 54 million in a country of mountains and jungles that doesn't have road connections to its neighbours and half of its roads becoming impassible for armoured vehicles in the intense monsoon during the summer months is small? It took the British three years to get to Rangoon, the US military isn't designed for such warfare.

Like I posted on the other thread, a prolonged guerrilla war generates more revenue for Lockheed Martin so it would be considered a win by the warmongers


And there's oil there. Jesus christ now that I think about it I actually could see us invading Myanmar.

Yall thought we were dropping in Iran boys. Nah, we going back to the days of agent orange.
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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:41 pm

San Lumen wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:If we go to war in Myanmar, Fortunate Son and All Along the Watchtower are gonna end up on billboard again lmfao.

I very much doubt we will.

We shouldn't. The world is full of injustice anyway and we cannot go to war with every single unjust regime.
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Postby The Hindustani State » Thu Feb 04, 2021 9:43 pm

Oh no, if war in Myanmar starts then the northeast India conflict will start again too, that means they might bring back conscription here :shock:

Right now all the soldiers are just sent to the China border because most of the insurgencies have died down, but now with the new China backed government they might start arming the terrorists again
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Postby Tranzoria » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:03 pm

The Hindustani State wrote:Oh no, if war in Myanmar starts then the northeast India conflict will start again too, that means they might bring back conscription here :shock:

Right now all the soldiers are just sent to the China border because most of the insurgencies have died down, but now with the new China backed government they might start arming the terrorists again

What rebels? The populace of Myanmar or the Junta?
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Postby Heloin » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:11 pm

Tranzoria wrote:
The Hindustani State wrote:Oh no, if war in Myanmar starts then the northeast India conflict will start again too, that means they might bring back conscription here :shock:

Right now all the soldiers are just sent to the China border because most of the insurgencies have died down, but now with the new China backed government they might start arming the terrorists again

What rebels? The populace of Myanmar or the Junta?

Burma has had ongoing insurgencies for the last 70 years, same as North East India. When one flares up the other often follows.

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Postby Sungoldy-China » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:22 pm

Military intervention in the internal affairs of a distant country is a way to demonstrate national power.
I’m not sure the United States still has enough power to support a military invasion.
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Postby Baltenstein » Thu Feb 04, 2021 11:53 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Like I posted on the other thread, a prolonged guerrilla war generates more revenue for Lockheed Martin so it would be considered a win by the warmongers


And there's oil there. Jesus christ now that I think about it I actually could see us invading Myanmar.

Yall thought we were dropping in Iran boys. Nah, we going back to the days of agent orange.


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Postby Vivolkha » Fri Feb 05, 2021 1:31 am

Tranzoria wrote:Can't tell if China's faking or not. These seems REALLY weird now.
China is actually criticizing the Coup

Chinese officials are just watching the power struggle while eating popcorn and discussing how to take advantage of it.
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America won't intervene because it tends to be ok with far right governments that don't harm it directly.
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Postby The New California Republic » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:33 am

A civil disobedience movement in Myanmar is gaining momentum with teachers and students protesting against Monday's military coup.

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Postby The Reformed American Republic » Fri Feb 05, 2021 5:40 am

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:America won't intervene because it tends to be ok with far right governments that don't harm it directly.

We shouldn't intervene. It's bad enough that we're stuck in the middle east as it is.
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Postby Anglicora » Fri Feb 05, 2021 8:01 am

Wonderful. The case for a NATO-led regime change campaign in Burma is strong. Toppling a repressive military regime, ending a genocide, building a strong democracy in the former Tiger of Asia, and developing a reliable ally on China's doorstep.

Esheaun Stroakuss wrote:America won't intervene because it tends to be ok with far right governments that don't harm it directly.

A severe simplification of American foreign policy... Jeane Kirkpatrick wrote about this in her book Dictatorships & Double Standards. The USA will support classical autocracies that are aligned with her interests as a "necessary evil", but will not support totalitarian regimes. Ultimately, allying with democracies is preferred but sometimes it is necessary to support dictatorships. That aside, the Burmese regime are pro-China and perpetrating genocide.

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No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

We are going to though. It’s a perfect opportunity for Biden to gain that “overthrowing evil” cred

One can only wish. However it is unlikely that there will be a land invasion. More realistically, air superiority will be established via SEAD operations. Air superiority would prevent them from re-establishing themselves and from that, NATO could begin strategic drone strikes to beat the military into submission or eliminate its leadership should they not surrender.
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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Like I posted on the other thread, a prolonged guerrilla war generates more revenue for Lockheed Martin so it would be considered a win by the warmongers


And there's oil there. Jesus christ now that I think about it I actually could see us invading Myanmar.

Yall thought we were dropping in Iran boys. Nah, we going back to the days of agent orange.

Burma over Iran? Why not... both?
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Postby Anglicora » Fri Feb 05, 2021 9:09 am

It isn't useless actually. ASEAN has been improving its ties with NATO over the last decade or so. They're reliable regional partners against Chinese influence, which is why it is conducive for them to help us deal with the coup.
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Anglicora wrote:It isn't useless actually. ASEAN has been improving its ties with NATO over the last decade or so. They're reliable regional partners against Chinese influence, which is why it is conducive for them to help us deal with the coup.

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