Military Coup in Myanmar

[Suriyanakhon]

Thailand punts on Myanmar, calls it "their internal affair", as does Cambodia

[Risottia]

Suu Kyi, President Win Myint and other leaders had been “taken” in the early hours of the morning.
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NSG, what do you think will be the end result of this? Will Myanmar's fragile democracy survive, or will the old hands take power again?

Democracy? What?

Suu Kyi AT LEAST happily used her image to cover a genocide conducted by Myanmar . There was never a democracy in Myanmar.

[The New California Republic]

Dictatorships rarely hand over power willingly of their own volition, they need to be coerced in some manner, so this reversal is no surprise.

[Resilient Acceleration]

The new guy leading Myanmar, Min Aung Hlaing, seems to be uh, a not so pleasant guy, being in charge of the Rohingya genocide and all. What a surprise.

Min Aung Hlaing has courted significant controversy for his family's significant business interests and potential conflict of interest. He is a major shareholder in the military-owned Myanmar Economic Holdings Limited (MEHL). During the 2010–11 fiscal year, he had owned 5,000 shares and received an annual dividend payment of $250,000

...In 2013, his son Aung Pyae Sone won a no-bid government permit well below market rates, to lease land for 30 years at the Yangon People's Park for a high-end restaurant and art gallery, following his father's promotion to Commander-in-Chief. Aung Pyae Sone also runs A&M Mahar, which offers Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approvals and customs clearance services for drugs and medical devices.

In July 2019, the United States government banned him from travel to the United States. In December 2020, it froze Min Aung Hlaing's American-based assets and criminalized financial transactions between him and anyone in the United States.

[SD_Film Artists]

Burma. Myanmar sounds like Hans Moleman from the Simpsons.

[The Hindustani State]

Suu Kyi, President Win Myint and other leaders had been “taken” in the early hours of the morning.
...
NSG, what do you think will be the end result of this? Will Myanmar's fragile democracy survive, or will the old hands take power again?

Democracy? What?

Suu Kyi AT LEAST happily used her image to cover a genocide conducted by Myanmar . There was never a democracy in Myanmar.

Yes there was, there was no evidence of election rigging in Myanmar and it was a free election which was internationally monitored

[Risottia]

Democracy? What?

Suu Kyi AT LEAST happily used her image to cover a genocide conducted by Myanmar . There was never a democracy in Myanmar.

Yes there was, there was no evidence of election rigging in Myanmar and it was a free election which was internationally monitored

Free election is NOT enough to define a democracy; a country where people can be disenfranchised of citizenship and robbed, raped and killed systematically because of their religion or ethnicity is NO democracy. A tyranny by majority at best.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Yes there was, there was no evidence of election rigging in Myanmar and it was a free election which was internationally monitored

Free election is NOT enough to define a democracy; a country where people can be disenfranchised of citizenship and robbed, raped and killed systematically because of their religion or ethnicity is NO democracy. A tyranny by majority at best.

Guess what? That is still democratic but it is illiberal. Ancient Greek democracies were generally very racist but that didn’t make them less democratic. Whether a state is democratic has nothing to do with how they treat ethnic minorities and definitely not how they treat non-citizens. What we see is that when certain countries such as Egypt and Serbia practice democracy their social illiberalism among the populace is fully revealed. When about 50% of the people vote for something like Serbian Radical Party and Serbian Progressive Party without rigging the election (before 2017 since they were in the opposition) we know what most Serbian voters actually think about their “national enemies”. They actually want ultranats to be in power especially if they are also pro-EU, hence they got what they wished.

Whether the same applies to Burma depends on whether the election was rigged and whether most Burmese are even aware that Rohingyas exist since they are in a remote province and that free and accessible less biased news in Burmese may not exist.

[The Hindustani State]

Yes there was, there was no evidence of election rigging in Myanmar and it was a free election which was internationally monitored

Free election is NOT enough to define a democracy; a country where people can be disenfranchised of citizenship and robbed, raped and killed systematically because of their religion or ethnicity is NO democracy. A tyranny by majority at best.

That’s still democracy, democracy is a form of government, not a measure of how good or bad a government is. A non democratic government can be good and a democratic government can be bad

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Tbh the military was always the actual government. This stupid power sharing agreement they had with the civilian government was totally one sided, as you can see from them deciding they should just overthrow said government. I'm so glad I dont live in a country where the military controls the government instead of the government controlling the military. As for the people of Myanmar, especially the Karens and Rohingya...

Run like freaking hell.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Dictatorships rarely hand over power willingly of their own volition, they need to be coerced in some manner, so this reversal is no surprise.

The only way you'll truly get power back from a dictatorship is through killing the dictator or taking him into custody and trying him before a citizens court. Rarely do they willingly give up power (as Caesar himself proved).

[Insaanistan]

The Southeast Asian nation of Myanmar is in a crisis. The military has coupes the government under the guise there was fraud in the elections there. Aung San Suu Kyi. She and other leaders of the National League for Democracy were detained. Suu Kyi is a Nobel Peace Prize winner, but her reputation suffered as she sat back while the military has engaged in genocide against the main Muslim ethnic group in Myanmar: the Rohingya. The Rohingya have fled to Bangladesh, India, Malaysia and others. They have been raped, murdered, burned alive; their villages destroyed by military forces. There are now nearly twice as many Rohingya in Bangladesh than Myanmar. The rest are trapped.
Power has been handed over to military leader. Roads in the capitol Nay Pyi Taw and the main city Yangon have been blocked by soldiers. News broadcasts have gone of air and internet and phone services disrupted. Banks report they’ve been forced to close.
The coup has received UN condemnation already.

As a Southeast Asian nation genociding Muslims in a fragile democracy, the international community was largely silent, including former president Donald Trump, who has called for all Muslims to be barred entry to the US, and reportedly told Xi Jinping he approved of the genocide against Muslims in China. With the new administration in power in the United States (which has already reversed a travel ban that would have kept Rohingyas from entering the US), and a military coup removing Myanmar’s pro-democracy ruler, the question is: what will the US, who has a bit of a history interfering in the loss of democracy in Southeast Asia, do about the present situation?

[The Huskar Social Union]

Well fuck thats something. Hope this doesnt end with a ton of people dying.

[Risottia]

Free election is NOT enough to define a democracy; a country where people can be disenfranchised of citizenship and robbed, raped and killed systematically because of their religion or ethnicity is NO democracy. A tyranny by majority at best.

That’s still democracy, democracy is a form of government, not a measure of how good or bad a government is. A non democratic government can be good and a democratic government can be bad

Nope. It's not a democracy if you can declare a part of the demos "not demos anymore".

[Anglicora]

The new leadership is ran by far-right pro-China generals. Regime change necessary.

[The Reformed American Republic]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roYAwQ8n_a8

In the comments of this video, Trump supporters are comparing the situation to the U.S. and one has defended the military's actions as they wanted something similar to happen here.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

The new leadership is ran by far-right pro-China generals. Regime change necessary.

No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roYAwQ8n_a8

In the comments of this video, Trump supporters are comparing the situation to the U.S. and one has defended the military's actions as they wanted something similar to happen here.

Pro USA but anti democracy. That's interesting.

[No State Here]

The new leadership is ran by far-right pro-China generals. Regime change necessary.

No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

Even the Burmese army has tremendous difficulty fighting the insurgencies in the country, it’s like Vietnam’s jungle landscape x1000

[Insaanistan]

The new leadership is ran by far-right pro-China generals. Regime change necessary.

No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

One two three
What are we fightin’ for?

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

Even the Burmese army has tremendous difficulty fighting the insurgencies in the country, it’s like Vietnam’s jungle landscape x1000

"Ma'am we're calling to inform you that your son Ricky is dead. His platoon was taken hostage in the jungle of Myanmar a week ago and yesterday they found his mutilated and charred corpse hanging upside down from a tree. We aren't sure if he was mutilated like that before or after he was killed. We assume the other members of his squad are also dead and we are sorry to inform you of his untimely demise. But he didn't die in vain, he gave his life making sure China couldn't gain influence in a random southeast Asian nation half of Americans never heard of with a name that's hard to pronounce and whose total GDP is equal to like Huntington West Virginia's at best. He was an American hero ma'am."

Lets not make this happen. We don't need to have phone calls like this needing to be placed.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

No we cannot send American soldiers to Myanmar. It would be Vietnam all over again.

One two three
What are we fightin’ for?

Cause China bad yall.

[San Lumen]

Tbh the military was always the actual government. This stupid power sharing agreement they had with the civilian government was totally one sided, as you can see from them deciding they should just overthrow said government. I'm so glad I dont live in a country where the military controls the government instead of the government controlling the military. As for the people of Myanmar, especially the Karens and Rohingya...

Run like freaking hell.

I agree. Anyone who can leave the country should get out now. The military isn’t going to respect the outcome of the election. The people don’t want them anymore.

A revolution is likely impossible as the capital is believed to have been built to prevent one.

[Insaanistan]

One two three
What are we fightin’ for?

Cause China bad yall.

And we won’t let Burma fall

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Tbh the military was always the actual government. This stupid power sharing agreement they had with the civilian government was totally one sided, as you can see from them deciding they should just overthrow said government. I'm so glad I dont live in a country where the military controls the government instead of the government controlling the military. As for the people of Myanmar, especially the Karens and Rohingya...

Run like freaking hell.

I agree. Anyone who can leave the country should get out now. The military isn’t going to respect the outcome of the election. The people don’t want them anymore.

A revolution is likely impossible as the capital is believed to have been built to prevent one.

They built the capital in a way that prevents revolution? Jeez.