San Francisco may rename school named for Washington

[Enjuku]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Why are we so quick to want slaveholder's names on schools? Pick someone different. And if the new name also ended up doing horrific things, like owning your great grandparents as slaves, we pick someone else.

The silliness of getting offended that things offend marginalized people is too real. Let it be. Or if you're that attached to George Washington, send your kid to a different school.

[Atheris]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Because he was the first President? Because he was one of the Founding Fathers? Because without him, America wouldn't exist as a country nor a nation?

[Kexholm Karelia]

Or if you're that attached to George Washington, send your kid to a different school.

Unfortunately, because the Democrats keep blocking any school choice legislation, that’s not possible

[Loeje]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Why are we so quick to want slaveholder's names on schools? Pick someone different. And if the new name also ended up doing horrific things, like owning your great grandparents as slaves, we pick someone else.

The silliness of getting offended that things offend marginalized people is too real. Let it be. Or if you're that attached to George Washington, send your kid to a different school.

Why would anyone not oppose this? We're talking about George Washington. And I have never met a single person who was offended by things being named for George Washington.

[Adamede]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Why are we so quick to want slaveholder's names on schools? Pick someone different. And if the new name also ended up doing horrific things, like owning your great grandparents as slaves, we pick someone else.

The silliness of getting offended that things offend marginalized people is too real. Let it be. Or if you're that attached to George Washington, send your kid to a different school.

Because its fucking dumb.

And it’s not just slave holders they’re going after.

[Enjuku]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Because he was the first President? Because he was one of the Founding Fathers? Because without him, America wouldn't exist as a country nor a nation?

And he also owned slaves?

There are plenty of things in America named after Washington. There's a state and a capital district named after him even. Why does his name need to be on a school if the students and community there don't want it?

[Kowani]

Or if you're that attached to George Washington, send your kid to a different school.

Unfortunately, because the Democrats keep blocking any school choice legislation, that’s not possible

indeed, blocking bad ideas is just good policy

[Atheris]

Because he was the first President? Because he was one of the Founding Fathers? Because without him, America wouldn't exist as a country nor a nation?

And he also owned slaves?

And my many times great grandfather was a Viking and probably slaughtered many people.

There are plenty of things in America named after Washington. There's a state and a capital district named after him even. Why does his name need to be on a school if the students and community there don't want it?

Have you asked the students and the community?

[The Two Jerseys]

Still confused why anyone would oppose this?

Because he was the first President? Because he was one of the Founding Fathers? Because without him, America wouldn't exist as a country nor a nation?

Because he's probably the single most important figure in American history?

[Kexholm Karelia]

Unfortunately, because the Democrats keep blocking any school choice legislation, that’s not possible

indeed, blocking bad ideas is just good policy

School choice isn't bad policy, why shouldn’t parents be able to choose where their kids go to school instead of it being confined to where they live? Those that can’t afford private school, but the public school in the area is dangerous (as many American schools are)?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Have people finally considered my proposal of overloading namesakes? I mean let George Washington Middle School remain GWMS. Just allow the phrase “George Washington” to refer to either President George Washington or George Washington Carver or both. There is no need to waste taxpayers’ money and everyone is happy.

Deal?

If both sides ignore me and do not propose other solutions that are acceptable to most people it is evidence that they have bad faith and do not actually want peace restored.

[Kowani]

indeed, blocking bad ideas is just good policy

School choice isn't bad policy, why shouldn’t parents be able to choose where their kids go to school instead of it being confined to where they live? Those that can’t afford private school, but the public school in the area is dangerous (as many American schools are)?

it doesn't work
very simply put, it doesn't achieve the ends it's advocates think it does

[Enjuku]

And he also owned slaves?

And my many times great grandfather was a Viking and probably slaughtered many people.

Cool, then don't let him be the name of the school either. Simple!

There's not a valid reason to keep Washington's name on that school if people are upset about his legacy. Slavery is a recent evil. Harriett Tubman wasn't living it up with the Vikings, she's someone great great grandmother. The legacy of slavery still affects communities in the United States today. And some of the Founding Fathers fought tooth and nail to either keep slavery alive, or keep their slaves around to abuse.

Imo, names don't matter until they matter. If people are offended by a name because that person literally defended the institution that kept your family enslaved for the half-century to come, that's perfectly justified. If South Asians in the UK wanted to remove Churchill's name off a school they went to because of his role in the famines in India, that'd also be perfectly fine.

Historical figures are literally that: figures. We choose how we remember them. George Washington isn't going anywhere just because he's not on your school's name.

Have you asked the students and the community?

There's enough uproar for the city to move and change the name, so I think that speaks volumes.

Cities don't just meet and play Where's Waldo to find racist-named schools to rename.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

And my many times great grandfather was a Viking and probably slaughtered many people.

Cool, then don't let him be the name of the school either. Simple!

There's not a valid reason to keep Washington's name on that school if people are upset about his legacy. Slavery is a recent evil. Harriett Tubman wasn't living it up with the Vikings, she's someone great great grandmother. The legacy of slavery still affects communities in the United States today. And some of the Founding Fathers fought tooth and nail to either keep slavery alive, or keep their slaves around to abuse.

Imo, names don't matter until they matter. If people are offended by a name because that person literally defended the institution that kept your family enslaved for the half-century to come, that's perfectly justified. If South Asians in the UK wanted to remove Churchill's name off a school they went to because of his role in the famines in India, that'd also be perfectly fine.

Historical figures are literally that: figures. We choose how we remember them. George Washington isn't going anywhere just because he's not on your school's name.

Have you asked the students and the community?

There's enough uproar for the city to move and change the name, so I think that speaks volumes.

Cities don't just meet and play Where's Waldo to find racist-named schools to rename.

What about my proposal?

[Loeje]

And my many times great grandfather was a Viking and probably slaughtered many people.

Cool, then don't let him be the name of the school either. Simple!

There's not a valid reason to keep Washington's name on that school if people are upset about his legacy. Slavery is a recent evil. Harriett Tubman wasn't living it up with the Vikings, she's someone great great grandmother. The legacy of slavery still affects communities in the United States today. And some of the Founding Fathers fought tooth and nail to either keep slavery alive, or keep their slaves around to abuse.

Imo, names don't matter until they matter. If people are offended by a name because that person literally defended the institution that kept your family enslaved for the half-century to come, that's perfectly justified. If South Asians in the UK wanted to remove Churchill's name off a school they went to because of his role in the famines in India, that'd also be perfectly fine.

Historical figures are literally that: figures. We choose how we remember them. George Washington isn't going anywhere just because he's not on your school's name.

Have you asked the students and the community?

There's enough uproar for the city to move and change the name, so I think that speaks volumes.

Cities don't just meet and play Where's Waldo to find racist-named schools to rename.

Who is offended by Washington's name?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Cool, then don't let him be the name of the school either. Simple!

There's not a valid reason to keep Washington's name on that school if people are upset about his legacy. Slavery is a recent evil. Harriett Tubman wasn't living it up with the Vikings, she's someone great great grandmother. The legacy of slavery still affects communities in the United States today. And some of the Founding Fathers fought tooth and nail to either keep slavery alive, or keep their slaves around to abuse.

Imo, names don't matter until they matter. If people are offended by a name because that person literally defended the institution that kept your family enslaved for the half-century to come, that's perfectly justified. If South Asians in the UK wanted to remove Churchill's name off a school they went to because of his role in the famines in India, that'd also be perfectly fine.

Historical figures are literally that: figures. We choose how we remember them. George Washington isn't going anywhere just because he's not on your school's name.



There's enough uproar for the city to move and change the name, so I think that speaks volumes.

Cities don't just meet and play Where's Waldo to find racist-named schools to rename.

Who is offended by Washington's name?

Some people are. Are you fine with the word “Washington” referring to multiple people?

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

If neither side wants compromise it looks like ailurocracy is necessary to break the impasse. All places need to be renamed by cats and the feline name is the final name that must not change.

[Loeje]

Who is offended by Washington's name?

Some people are. Are you fine with the word “Washington” referring to multiple people?

No one intended the name to refer to George Washington Carver, and intent matters. That would still count as a change and I think changing the name to anything is unnecessary.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Some people are. Are you fine with the word “Washington” referring to multiple people?

No one intended the name to refer to George Washington Carver, and intent matters. That would still count as a change and I think changing the name to anything is unnecessary.

I only care about minimizing the amount of trouble and cost to taxpayers. Yes, and shutting both sides up since they are busybodies who have nothing better to do other than disrupting the society.

It seems that you actually care about not overloading the namesake hence the ailurocracy is the only solution. Let cats determine what place names should be and then the names should be final.

[Enjuku]

What about my proposal?

I mean, why not just name it after George Washington Carver at that point?

For the realists in the room, it's much cheaper to change the name by adding "Carver" on the existing one, than to make a whole new name and line of merchandise.

Who is offended by Washington's name?

Literally the people living there

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

What about my proposal?

I mean, why not just name it after George Washington Carver at that point?

For the realists in the room, it's much cheaper to change the name by adding "Carver" on the existing one, than to make a whole new name and line of merchandise.

Who is offended by Washington's name?

Literally the people living there

Again, your side doesn’t want compromise either. Let’s bring cats out already. Let them jump on the keyboard and determine names.

[Loeje]

Who is offended by Washington's name?

Literally the people living there

The school board. Just your article also lists people in San Francisco who think this is silly or even offensive. Including the mayor.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Literally the people living there

The school board. Just your article also lists people in San Francisco who think this is silly or even offensive. Including the mayor.

Yeah. Hence we need to bring out the cats and rename all places once and for all. Let moralists argue over whether Oahun High School and Puyank Middle School are too racist, too un-American or whatever.

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[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

We will make the struggle a struggle between cats and normal people on one side and all kinds of moral crusaders and busybodies on the other side.