San Francisco may rename school named for Washington

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Rename the Washinton Monument, make the Jefferson and Lincoln memorials into museums that don't just spout propaganda.


It is.

To what? What is there is that is propaganda? A memorial and a museum are the same thing.

It really isn't but I suspect the reason you won't answer is because you dont have an alternative and would rather just spout things like that to be edgy.

If they shouldn't be named after these figures, well, what's the alternative? It's not irrelevant; it's related to the main topic of this thread, which is renaming.

[Salus Maior]

I know what happened to the natives...and it was disgusting, and awful, and inhumane. Take the Massacre at Wounded Knee--completely unjustifiable. The Trail of Tears, Tecumseh, all of them--they deserved better than to be killed and pushed off their lands.

Which is exactly why carving the faces of the people responsible into a historically significant mountain makes it a symbol of white supremacy.

I don't think Jackson is up on Mt Rushmore.

[San Lumen]

Which is exactly why carving the faces of the people responsible into a historically significant mountain makes it a symbol of white supremacy.

I don't think Jackson is up on Mt Rushmore.

He isn't but the capital of Mississippi is named for him as is the largest city in Florida.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Which is exactly why carving the faces of the people responsible into a historically significant mountain makes it a symbol of white supremacy.

I don't think Jackson is up on Mt Rushmore.

Or Woodrow Wilson, thank God.

[SD_Film Artists]

Not going to happen. How is Mount Rushmore a symbol of white supremacy?

Yeah, I wonder what makes whole bunch of genocidal racists carved into the side of a mountain that's significant to the people they oppressed a symbol of white supremacy. A real mystery, where I'm coning from.

More US supremacy than white, which is what national monuments should really be about. If anything the racist thing to do would be to remove it because of "natives" since there's not really such thing as a "native". They didn't come out of the ground.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

By the way my Greek letters proposal earlier wasn't really in seriousness.

I’m actually serious.

[Salus Maior]

I don't think Jackson is up on Mt Rushmore.

Or Woodrow Wilson, thank God.

If Woodrow Wilson were up there, I'd go up there with dynamite myself.

Wilson is the absolute worst.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

To what? What is there is that is propaganda? A memorial and a museum are the same thing.

It really isn't but I suspect the reason you won't answer is because you dont have an alternative and would rather just spout things like that to be edgy.

If they shouldn't be named after these figures, well, what's the alternative? It's not irrelevant; it's related to the main topic of this thread, which is renaming.

These names are descriptive in this setting. A Stalin Museum does not need to praise him. A Nazism museum is not necessarily a Nazism indoctrination center.

[Vassenor]

Why is the argument here always BUT WHERE WILL IT END?

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Yeah, I wonder what makes whole bunch of genocidal racists carved into the side of a mountain that's significant to the people they oppressed a symbol of white supremacy. A real mystery, where I'm coning from.

More US supremacy than white, which is what national monuments should really be about. If anything the racist thing to do would be to remove it because of "natives" since there's not really such thing as a "native". They didn't come out of the ground.

I think it is less so white supremacy today, but I'm not denying there wasn't back then.

Why are white people portrayed as the bad guys? Yes, I'm aware of history, but scapegoating won't solve racial tensions.

[SD_Film Artists]

Why is the argument here always BUT WHERE WILL IT END?

Because we've already seen where it ends.

'Please let us into your space'

'This is our space now'

'We don't like you in this space'

'Please let us into your space'

'This is our space now'.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

Why is the argument here always BUT WHERE WILL IT END?

I already provided a solution: Greek / Armenian / Georgian / Amharic letters. Both sides just don’t want to actually have something that works.

Nobody can argue that ሀ ሀ ሀ is politically biased. So be it.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Why is the argument here always BUT WHERE WILL IT END?

I already provided a solution: Greek / Armenian / Georgian / Amharic letters. Both sides just don’t want to actually have something that works.

CYRILLIC LETTERS. ARABIC. BURMESE. THAI. HEIROGLYPHS.

[Salus Maior]

Why is the argument here always BUT WHERE WILL IT END?

I already provided a solution: Greek / Armenian / Georgian / Amharic letters. Both sides just don’t want to actually have something that works.

Yes, let's do Armenian letters.

Really troll our Turkish minorities. : P

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

I already provided a solution: Greek / Armenian / Georgian / Amharic letters. Both sides just don’t want to actually have something that works.

Yes, let's do Armenian letters.

Really troll our Turkish minorities. : P

THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE WAS REAL. STOP MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MENTION IN TURKEY, DAMMIT.

[Salus Maior]

Yes, let's do Armenian letters.

Really troll our Turkish minorities. : P

THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE WAS REAL. STOP MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MENTION IN TURKEY, DAMMIT.

THIS U N I R O N I C A L L Y

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

THE ARMENIAN GENOCIDE WAS REAL. STOP MAKING IT ILLEGAL TO MENTION IN TURKEY, DAMMIT.

THIS U N I R O N I C A L L Y

Exactly. I don't know much about it, just that it happened and that in Turkey it's illegal to bring it up.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

I already provided a solution: Greek / Armenian / Georgian / Amharic letters. Both sides just don’t want to actually have something that works.

CYRILLIC LETTERS. ARABIC. BURMESE. THAI. HEIROGLYPHS.

Personally I think Ge’ez is optimal since it is a native Sub-Saharan African script that is still related to Semitic languages since Amharic is an Afroasiatic language. So if you learn some Ge’ez it also helps you with Hebrew, Aramaic and Arabic. It is good for conservative Abrahamic religious people as well.

I guess the only people who won’t like the Ge’ez are some WNs as well as maybe some people from Somalia who just don’t like Ethiopia. For them they can use the Arabic, or Greek or Latin transliteration of the same thing. Problem solved.

ሃ ሃ ሃ (hahaha)

Peace.

[Kannap]

Confusing as that is, that's not what I meant.

there are like 15 towns/cities named Hampton in the U.S., but having two in the same state would be confusing.

Hampton, Virginia vs. Hampton, Missouri is one thing

Hampton, Missouri vs. Hampton, Missouri is another

They'll be fine.

This is the best argument I've seen for renaming a Washington

[Kannap]

Mount Rushmore can and should be undone.

No it should not and such a thing would be extremely unpopular.

the United States has a track record of not giving a shit about the Native populations that we have to uphold, of course.

[Cordel One]

Which is exactly why carving the faces of the people responsible into a historically significant mountain makes it a symbol of white supremacy.

and your solution is to destroy it? Good thing your not in charge.

I'd make you wear a mask too.

[Kannap]

Not going to happen. How is Mount Rushmore a symbol of white supremacy?

The Sioux are opposed to the monument.

1. Because they're WHITE MEN! (Dramatic gasp)
2. I do understand that, and don't want to discredit the Sioux. I'd love for racial rifts in America to heal, but that can't be done if we keep putting each other down.

I understand how their being white men fits your narrative of being against woke culture, but we literally genocided the Native Americans while manifesting any and all destiny we could find.

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

They'll be fine.

This is the best argument I've seen for renaming a Washington

For these place names we obviously don’t want to use Ge’ez. It will have to be pronounceable in English. What shall they be? Random local human names? Like Sherryville, Andrewton, Carolstown, North Caroline City, Karl’s Farms?

[Kannap]

Which is exactly why carving the faces of the people responsible into a historically significant mountain makes it a symbol of white supremacy.

and your solution is to destroy it? Good thing your not in charge.

The carving on Stone Mountain in Georgia too.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

and your solution is to destroy it? Good thing your not in charge.

I'd make you wear a mask too.

They mitigate, but they're not the one-stop solution that prevents a virus in totality.

1. Because they're WHITE MEN! (Dramatic gasp)
2. I do understand that, and don't want to discredit the Sioux. I'd love for racial rifts in America to heal, but that can't be done if we keep putting each other down.

I understand how their being white men fits your narrative of being against woke culture, but we literally genocided the Native Americans while manifesting any and all destiny we could find.

And it was awful, as I acknowledged. They didn't deserve to be treated like that. I will mention Wounded Knee because it comes to mind, and it was just...such a horrific thing to do.