Anarchism: Marxism distorted

[Western Theram]

Would Democratic Confederalism be classed as Anarchist, or just Libertarian Socialist?

i think itś considered both

[Western Theram]

He doesn't say that they have definitely visited, but if they have, which, according to the behaviours of the US (and Soviet) government around the issue, is extremely likely.

There’s literally no proof for it.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdqjy/ ... ts-to-date
i dont really doubt that aliens exist, i mean its a big universe thats constantly expanding, would be kinda boring if we were the only intelligent life
i mean until we hve proof were alone in the universe but i think we have proof

[Posadist-Communalists]

Just because a utopia hasn't existed, that doesn't mean it can't exist.

A perfect society is so subjective that it can never exist. And even if it could it wouldn’t be under any current ideology or method that we have though of today.

Marxism only turns authoritarian when certain people implement it, but if others did it, then it would be much different

Then maybe you should stop putting those “certain people” whoever they are, in charge.

. Authoritarian Socialism works short-term, while Libertarian Socialism works long term, and as we know, something long-term, or gradual, will be easily sabotaged in today's society, which explains why authoritarianism was successful (to an extent), because it was, in comparison, instantaneous, therefore beating the system while it wasn't prepared.

And what evidence do you base this off of?

Just take a look yourself.

[Adamede]

There’s literally no proof for it.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdqjy/ ... ts-to-date
i dont really doubt that aliens exist, i mean its a big universe thats constantly expanding, would be kinda boring if we were the only intelligent life
i mean until we hve proof were alone in the universe but i think we have proof

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

[Posadist-Communalists]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdqjy/ ... ts-to-date
i dont really doubt that aliens exist, i mean its a big universe thats constantly expanding, would be kinda boring if we were the only intelligent life
i mean until we hve proof were alone in the universe but i think we have proof

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

UFOs aren't definitely aliens, but if they are, they would have to be communist, or have such an advanced social structure akin to something like Communalism accompanying their technology.

[Adamede]

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

UFOs aren't definitely aliens, but if they are, they would have to be communist, or have such an advanced social structure akin to Communalism.

Short of meeting these aliens there’s no real way treating that as a fact.

[Adamede]

A perfect society is so subjective that it can never exist. And even if it could it wouldn’t be under any current ideology or method that we have though of today.


Then maybe you should stop putting those “certain people” whoever they are, in charge.

And what evidence do you base this off of?

Just take a look yourself.

I do everyday, and I have to say I am one handsome boi, even my mother says so.

[Posadist-Communalists]

UFOs aren't definitely aliens, but if they are, they would have to be communist, or have such an advanced social structure akin to Communalism.

Short of meeting these aliens there’s no real way treating that as a fact.

I can't imagine any progress past a certain point in a hierarchical society.

[Posadist-Communalists]

Just take a look yourself.

I do everyday, and I have to say I am one handsome boi, even my mother says so.

I didn't say at yourself.

[Adamede]

I do everyday, and I have to say I am one handsome boi, even my mother says so.

I didn't say at yourself.

Saying I do your research for you to back up your own argument is fucking dumb.

You made the claim, you back it up.

[Adamede]

Short of meeting these aliens there’s no real way treating that as a fact.

I can't imagine any progress past a certain point in a hierarchical society.

And I can’t imagine a utopia.

[Western Theram]

https://www.vice.com/en/article/pkdqjy/ ... ts-to-date
i dont really doubt that aliens exist, i mean its a big universe thats constantly expanding, would be kinda boring if we were the only intelligent life
i mean until we hve proof were alone in the universe but i think we have proof

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

im assuming the UFOs come from aliens as we dont know of any human civilization that uses these so i feel like thats a fair assumption. that being said im not the CIA so i dont know anything about these objects other than the fact that they exist

[Adamede]

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

im assuming the UFOs come from aliens as we dont know of any human civilization that uses these so i feel like thats a fair assumption. that being said im not the CIA so i dont know anything about these objects other than the fact that they exist

If you think governments around the world would hide aliens from us why do you find it hard to nephew that they’d hide advanced space and aircraft from us?

[Posadist-Communalists]

I can't imagine any progress past a certain point in a hierarchical society.

And I can’t imagine a utopia.

And that's the problem. There's far too much of this "doomer" attitude nowadays, and this is why nothing's changing. Too many people are braiwashed into thinking this is the best we can do and that this is where history ends, which couldn't be further from the truth.

[Posadist-Communalists]

im assuming the UFOs come from aliens as we dont know of any human civilization that uses these so i feel like thats a fair assumption. that being said im not the CIA so i dont know anything about these objects other than the fact that they exist

If you think governments around the world would hide aliens from us why do you find it hard to nephew that they’d hide advanced space and aircraft from us?

So civilians can't use the tech to revolt and disrupt the status quo

[Adamede]

And I can’t imagine a utopia.

And that's the problem. There's far too much of this "doomer" attitude nowadays, and this is why nothing's changing. Too many people are braiwashed into thinking this is the best we can do and that this is where history ends, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Uh no the problem is people like you who are only able to debate strawmen and are unable to even back up your own statements.

[Posadist-Communalists]

And that's the problem. There's far too much of this "doomer" attitude nowadays, and this is why nothing's changing. Too many people are braiwashed into thinking this is the best we can do and that this is where history ends, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Uh no the problem is people like you who are only able to debate strawmen and are unable to even back up your own statements.

Not all arguments need actual evidence, though, it helps.

[Adamede]

Uh no the problem is people like you who are only able to debate strawmen and are unable to even back up your own statements.

Not all arguments need actual evidence, though, it helps.

Extraordinary claims like yours require evidence.

[Posadist-Communalists]

Not all arguments need actual evidence, though, it helps.

Extraordinary claims like yours require evidence.

You don't need evidence. Just think about it, does it not make any sense?

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

UFO’s =/= aliens, let alone Posadist fever dream communist aliens.

UFOs aren't definitely aliens, but if they are, they would have to be communist, or have such an advanced social structure akin to something like Communalism accompanying their technology.

You're right. UFO sightings went right down after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Invisible UFO's though, whole different thing

[Adamede]

Extraordinary claims like yours require evidence.

You don't need evidence. Just think about it, does it not make any sense?

No it doesn’t, that’s why I asked you for evidence.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

You don't need evidence. Just think about it, does it not make any sense?

No it doesn’t, that’s why I asked you for evidence.

So it's not just me you do this to.

"I found a FACTUAL ERROR in a post, everyone else just wait for two pages while I try to force them into admitting they were WRONG ABOUT SOMETHING"

It does not contribute to the thread. You go to Foe.

[Western Theram]

im assuming the UFOs come from aliens as we dont know of any human civilization that uses these so i feel like thats a fair assumption. that being said im not the CIA so i dont know anything about these objects other than the fact that they exist

If you think governments around the world would hide aliens from us why do you find it hard to nephew that they’d hide advanced space and aircraft from us?

i dont, its merely speculation

[Borderlands of Rojava]

Would Democratic Confederalism be classed as Anarchist, or just Libertarian Socialist?

I'd say the latter since Rojava still has a government but most stuff is done locally. I myself believe in having a central government of sorts for things like defense, but for the most part most things should be done democratically at a local level.

[No State Here]

My first critique is shared by many Marxists, it has a utopian character (" all individuals should have anarchist views and values. According to the Marxist view, that a social idea would follow directly from this human ideal and out of the free will of every individual formed its essence.")

Secondly, it seems like most anarchists are about bringing imagination and flair. I feel like a good chunk of anarchists are anarchists because its are appealing to new leftists (Such was the case when I was an anarchist)

Thirdly it ultimately lacks a credible strategy to turn its ideals and heroism into reality. I'm not saying anarchism isnt possible, because if you look back in human history you will see otherwise. It's the fact that anarchism is almost incapable of dealing with the unevenness of ideas of workers under capitalism. It seems almost incapable of washing away the effect of capitalist ideas in workers' heads and a lot of the time anarchists (at least here in america) make themselves look like jokes

This was just what I had off the top of my head, I was thinking about saying how anarchist revolutions seem unable to defend themselves but thats now always the case

Anarchists in Spain defended themselves against the Nazi-backed fascists for nearly three years, I think you need to give our anarchist comrades more credit.

I think certain polities (cough cough Catalonia cough cough) calling themselves "anarchist" is quite ironic considered what happened there