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Greater Cesnica
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:


To be fair, it seems more to be talking about how QAnon, Proud Boys, and the rest are trying to take advantage of the situation and rope in some new members from WSB rather than comparing the two.

The covering of those groups and ideologies and associating them with WSB is in itself dangerous.
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:40 pm

Shrillland wrote:


To be fair, it seems more to be talking about how QAnon, Proud Boys, and the rest are trying to take advantage of the situation and rope in some new members from WSB rather than comparing the two.

It's a dogwhistle.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:41 pm


i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:43 pm

Kowani wrote:

i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi

It's not related though. The coverage paints WSB in a negative light and will be used to demonize resistance to WS.
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Postby Echo Chamber Thought Police » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:44 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Kowani wrote:i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi

It's not related though. The coverage paints WSB in a negative light and will be used to demonize resistance to WS.

WS is in with the MSM, we knew this for a while.

Ppl just sucked off the media though because they were anti Trump
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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:47 pm

Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:
Greater Cesnica wrote:It's not related though. The coverage paints WSB in a negative light and will be used to demonize resistance to WS.

WS is in with the MSM, we knew this for a while.

Ppl just sucked off the media though because they were anti Trump

The faux resistance to trumpism is so cancerous. Instead of alienating people who supported him, solve or at least cover the economic roots of the populist resurgence in the U.S.
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San Lumen wrote:You are ridiculous.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:50 pm

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Kowani wrote:i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi

It's not related though. The coverage paints WSB in a negative light and will be used to demonize resistance to WS.

fair enough, yeah

Greater Cesnica wrote:
Echo Chamber Thought Police wrote:WS is in with the MSM, we knew this for a while.

Ppl just sucked off the media though because they were anti Trump

The faux resistance to trumpism is so cancerous. Instead of alienating people who supported him, solve or at least cover the economic roots of the populist resurgence in the U.S.

"economic roots"
will effortpost in the american politics thread about why this is misleading later
but to simplify, populism and trumpism are socially different forces with different roots, and the underlying roots of trumpism are not as economic as they first appear
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:51 pm

Kowani wrote:

i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi

It's a dogwhistle - and we've seen several already.

Groups this has been associated with so far:

Gamegate
White Supremacists
Trumpism/trumpists
Proud Boys
QAnon
Racism
Anti-gay sentiments
"Reddit Bros" (Which is a play on "Bernie Bros", which as everyone is aware, was an attempt to smear bernie as having followers ripe with sexism, which wasn't truer of him than literally anyone else running)
Alt-Right

You think that's all an accident?
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 12:57 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:i mean
the point about how some Neo-Nazis are trying to use it to recruit isn't exactly untrue
it's not like they're calling every redditor a nazi

It's a dogwhistle - and we've seen several already.

Groups this has been associated with so far:

Gamegate
White Supremacists
Trumpism/trumpists
Proud Boys
QAnon
Racism
Anti-gay sentiments
"Reddit Bros" (Which is a play on "Bernie Bros", which as everyone is aware, was an attempt to smear bernie as having followers ripe with sexism, which wasn't truer of him than literally anyone else running)
Alt-Right

You think that's all an accident?

nah
i accept the idea that the media is attempting to frame the WSB movement as part of larger reactionary cultural movements
my point is that we can recognize that they're dishonestly running a smear campaign while still noting that there is an element of the far-right which likes to co-opt larger social grievances
it is possible to do both things at once
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Greater Cesnica » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:07 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's a dogwhistle - and we've seen several already.

Groups this has been associated with so far:

Gamegate
White Supremacists
Trumpism/trumpists
Proud Boys
QAnon
Racism
Anti-gay sentiments
"Reddit Bros" (Which is a play on "Bernie Bros", which as everyone is aware, was an attempt to smear bernie as having followers ripe with sexism, which wasn't truer of him than literally anyone else running)
Alt-Right

You think that's all an accident?

nah
i accept the idea that the media is attempting to frame the WSB movement as part of larger reactionary cultural movements
my point is that we can recognize that they're dishonestly running a smear campaign while still noting that there is an element of the far-right which likes to co-opt larger social grievances
it is possible to do both things at once

That's fair.
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Postby Fahran » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:07 pm

Even if every single person on WSB had made a "woman belong in the kitchen joke" at some point in their lives and thought Anita Sarkeesian was a hack or Trump was great, I still wouldn't begrude them for this particular episode given that the hedge funds were deliberately trying to get one over on people who bought GME and had an uno reverse card pulled on them when the short squeeze happened. The money is going to people outside the establishment and probably isn't going to fund the Proud Boys, so... why is bringing up that some right-wingers might be supportive of it or involved in it so damning?
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Postby Seangoli » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:09 pm

Galloism wrote:
Shrillland wrote:
To be fair, it seems more to be talking about how QAnon, Proud Boys, and the rest are trying to take advantage of the situation and rope in some new members from WSB rather than comparing the two.

It's a dogwhistle.


I actually peruse the forum, and whenever politics does get brought up, it is almost always a "Screw Trump"mentality. Most of the people there really, really don't like him or his brand of politics and populism. I'm sure there are trump supporters there, but they are in the minority at this point. Originally, I don't think anybody actually discussed politics.

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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:12 pm

So a Fox News guest suggested banning people from talking about short sellers on social media. However, this is the only video i could find of the event, and it cuts off suspiciously fast as soon as the words leave his mouth.

Anyone have a link to the longer clip? I feel like there's a "or maybe that's fucking ridiculous" or something right after the cutoff. I want to see cow-suit's entire interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_y6JX-zp9Q
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Postby Fahran » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:14 pm

Galloism wrote:So a Fox News guest suggested banning people from talking about short sellers on social media. However, this is the only video i could find of the event, and it cuts off suspiciously fast as soon as the words leave his mouth.

Anyone have a link to the longer clip? I feel like there's a "or maybe that's fucking ridiculous" or something right after the cutoff. I want to see cow-suit's entire interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_y6JX-zp9Q

Something something 1st Amendment.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:15 pm

Galloism wrote:So a Fox News guest suggested banning people from talking about short sellers on social media. However, this is the only video i could find of the event, and it cuts off suspiciously fast as soon as the words leave his mouth.

Anyone have a link to the longer clip? I feel like there's a "or maybe that's fucking ridiculous" or something right after the cutoff. I want to see cow-suit's entire interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_y6JX-zp9Q

give me 5 minutes
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:16 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:So a Fox News guest suggested banning people from talking about short sellers on social media. However, this is the only video i could find of the event, and it cuts off suspiciously fast as soon as the words leave his mouth.

Anyone have a link to the longer clip? I feel like there's a "or maybe that's fucking ridiculous" or something right after the cutoff. I want to see cow-suit's entire interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_y6JX-zp9Q

give me 5 minutes

Danke.
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The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Atheris » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:17 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:So a Fox News guest suggested banning people from talking about short sellers on social media. However, this is the only video i could find of the event, and it cuts off suspiciously fast as soon as the words leave his mouth.

Anyone have a link to the longer clip? I feel like there's a "or maybe that's fucking ridiculous" or something right after the cutoff. I want to see cow-suit's entire interview.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_y6JX-zp9Q

give me 5 minutes

See you in five minutes.
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Postby Seangoli » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:18 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:It's a dogwhistle - and we've seen several already.

Groups this has been associated with so far:

Gamegate
White Supremacists
Trumpism/trumpists
Proud Boys
QAnon
Racism
Anti-gay sentiments
"Reddit Bros" (Which is a play on "Bernie Bros", which as everyone is aware, was an attempt to smear bernie as having followers ripe with sexism, which wasn't truer of him than literally anyone else running)
Alt-Right

You think that's all an accident?

nah
i accept the idea that the media is attempting to frame the WSB movement as part of larger reactionary cultural movements
my point is that we can recognize that they're dishonestly running a smear campaign while still noting that there is an element of the far-right which likes to co-opt larger social grievances
it is possible to do both things at once


Frankly, most people have seen this. I haven't talked to a single person, be they Republican or Democrat, liberal or conservative, or even working class/upper middle class who has taken this bait. Everybody hates what is getting pulled here, because it's showing how obviously unfair the system is

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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:18 pm

Galloism wrote:
Kowani wrote:give me 5 minutes

Danke.

And got it
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:22 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:Danke.

And got it

What a fucking clown
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Postby Galloism » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:25 pm

Kowani wrote:
Galloism wrote:Danke.

And got it

Hmm, I'm really not sure what he's saying except he took an opportunity to dunk on liberals and say they.... ban conservatives from talking about short sellers on social media?

Honestly, I just got lost after the cutoff.
Venicilian: wow. Jesus hung around with everyone. boys, girls, rich, poor(mostly), sick, healthy, etc. in fact, i bet he even went up to gay people and tried to heal them so they would be straight.
The Parkus Empire: Being serious on NSG is like wearing a suit to a nude beach.
New Kereptica: Since power is changed energy over time, an increase in power would mean, in this case, an increase in energy. As energy is equivalent to mass and the density of the government is static, the volume of the government must increase.


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Postby Fahran » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:26 pm

Genivaria wrote:

What a fucking clown

We really do live in Clown World.
"Then it was as if all the beauty of Ardha, devastating in its color and form and movement, recalled to him, more and more, the First Music, though reflected dimly. Thus Alnair wept bitterly, lamenting the notes which had begun to fade from his memory. He, who had composed the world's first poem upon spying a gazelle and who had played the world's first song upon encountering a dove perched upon a moringa, in beauty, now found only suffering and longing. Such it must be for all among the djinn, souls of flame and ash slowly dwindling to cinders in the elder days of the world."

- Song of the Fallen Star

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Postby Genivaria » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:27 pm

Galloism wrote:

Hmm, I'm really not sure what he's saying except he took an opportunity to dunk on liberals and say they.... ban conservatives from talking about short sellers on social media?

Honestly, I just got lost after the cutoff.

He's a guest on Fox Business, were you expecting coherent sentences?
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 30, 2021 1:29 pm

Atheris wrote:
Kowani wrote:give me 5 minutes

See you in five minutes.

undercut myself, did it in 3
i should charge dogecoin for this


Galloism wrote:

Hmm, I'm really not sure what he's saying except he took an opportunity to dunk on liberals and say they.... ban conservatives from talking about short sellers on social media?

Honestly, I just got lost after the cutoff.

i think the "they do it to conservatives" point was supposed to feed into the running "big tech victim narrative"
it just
didn't make any sense
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Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
Currently Vilifying: George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt, and Jimmy Carter

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