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Nevertopia
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Founded: May 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Nevertopia » Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:55 pm

Egalitarianism.
So the CCP won't let me be or let me be me so let me see, they tried to shut me down on CBC but it feels so empty without me.
Communism has failed every time its been tried.
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Borderlands of Rojava
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Posts: 14813
Founded: Jul 27, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby Borderlands of Rojava » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:01 pm

Anyone here a member of the pissed off and angry party?

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Postauthoritarian America
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Founded: Nov 07, 2020
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Postby Postauthoritarian America » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:04 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Duvniask wrote:People on NSG always manage to come up with the most nonsensical configuration of political leanings, this being an excellent example.

The logical endpoint of capitalist development is concentration and monopolization, wherever economies of scale allow it. The above post seems to indicate a petty bourgeois mindset that wishes to crystallize capitalism in some sort of romanticized ideal of small businesses everywhere, something that was characteristic of capitalism in its earliest stage - such a wish is doomed to failure, and only by stifling the economic basis of society can you delay the inevitable consolidation that leads to "big business".


This is a big reason why I'm not a social Democrat. The issue with capitalism is it's a slippery slope, which prevents it from being humanized or tamed.

Once you introduce a profit motive, all kinds of shit goes down. Corporations develope, lobbying becomes an industry, wars get fought for resources, the environment gets fucked by big business and the world goes down to hell.


Capitalism has failed everywhere it has been tried.
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Nanatsu no Tsuki
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Founded: Feb 10, 2008
Inoffensive Centrist Democracy

Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:07 pm

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:''Pinko commie!'', according to my husband. I do lean left on the political spectrum, according to a few online tests I've taken, but I don't put too much trust in those. I just go with what politically sounds good to me. Does that covers it? Ok.


I've always gotten socdem vibes from you.


Possibly a fair assessment.
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Nekostan-e Gharbi
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Founded: Dec 01, 2020
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Postby Nekostan-e Gharbi » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:32 pm

Nekostanism.

It has the following two aspects:

1. Philsemitism and Zionism. The Jewish people, the Jewish culture and the state of Israel are good and worthy of emulation by the rest of humanity. Jews and Israel are the Light Unto the Nations and rejection of Jews and Israel (I.e. antisemitism) leads to necessary rejection of life and self-destruction.

2. Felinism. Cats are a great species. Humans need to learn individualism and freedom from cats and reject collectivism which is anti-feline in nature.

Note that Israelis often like cats and cats fill the streets of Israel. The Philosemitic and Felinist aspects of Nekostanism are consistent.
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Kuuj
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Posts: 44
Founded: Oct 02, 2019
Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Kuuj » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:38 pm

Libertarian Socialism, Technocracy, globalism, pacifism, secular humanism, anti-theism, sapiocracy, environmentalism, ethical materialism
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Evacillian
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Posts: 235
Founded: Nov 18, 2015
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Postby Evacillian » Tue Jan 26, 2021 10:46 pm

Narcissism *sees reflection* :blush: :kiss:

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Comerciante
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Founded: Dec 25, 2020
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Postby Comerciante » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Any ideology that can just make it so I can afford a Doctor.
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Nejii
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Founded: Jun 24, 2020
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To ring off a few...

Postby Nejii » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:01 pm

Centrist Libertarianism, Stoicism (I try my best.), Democracy FTW, Individualism, Freedom of Expression, Freedom of Thought, Freedom of Religion.
Radical centrist tilting more and more to the right (socially)...

The Horst-Wessel-Lied is very catchy.

Growing more unapologetic by the day.

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Gamers Rise Up Land
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Posts: 4
Founded: Nov 20, 2020
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Postby Gamers Rise Up Land » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:02 pm

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Scherzinger
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Founded: Aug 17, 2017
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Postby Scherzinger » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 pm

im center right. i like actual centrists and center left. i think communist/socialist/facist/nazist are evil people and have never read a history book
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Neo Rome Republic
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Founded: Dec 27, 2012
Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Neo Rome Republic » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:07 pm

Sonacism
Ethical and Metaphysical: (Pan) Humanist and Naturalist.
Political Views Sum: Centrist on social issues, Market Socialist on economic, and Radical Civic universalist on political governance.
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The Eglintonian Confederation
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Founded: Jan 18, 2021
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Postby The Eglintonian Confederation » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:09 pm

Centrism, but slightly authoritarian right.

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Disgraces
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Founded: Apr 07, 2020
Capitalist Paradise

Postby Disgraces » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:11 pm

Economic, civic and left wing nationalism, mixed economy and much more.

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Hong Kong People
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Posts: 118
Founded: Aug 12, 2019
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Postby Hong Kong People » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:12 pm

Economically left-leaning, socially conservative.I guess Christian democracy best summarises my political view.
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BurritoBowl
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Posts: 29
Founded: May 24, 2020
Ex-Nation

Postby BurritoBowl » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:18 pm

Communist

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The Union of British North America
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Founded: Sep 03, 2017
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Postby The Union of British North America » Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:54 pm

Conservative liberalism, broadly. "Policy liberalism and polity conservatism," to paraphrase Daniel B. Klein. https://oll.libertyfund.org/page/lm-klein#leadessay

A liberal state with social, political, and economic freedoms, but not crazy anti-statism as with libertarians but does share skepticism of government intervention in the economic, political, and social spheres of life as freedom is usually curtailed with intervention and such interventions tend not to have good rationale or lead to negative unintended consequences. A liberal state with social, political, and economic freedoms, but having a foundation of stability and tradition for the liberal state to have ordered liberty (procedural and legal equality and rights leading to economic and social stability) and to maintain the liberal character of the state, and incremental reform/piecemeal social engineering as opposed to wholesale social engineering, to borrow from Karl Popper's ideas. A liberal state with social, political, and economic freedoms, but recognizes that progress happens (social/cultural, economic, and technological) and can be beneficial to people, and in fact progress can improve the stability and character of the liberal state.
An alt-America that had a grand bargain struck with London in the 1760s and remained under the British Crown (Turtledove's "The Two Georges"), mixed with some of Sobel's "For Want of a Nail" and a lot of the anthology "Columbia and Britannia," the sci-fi NZ novel "Anno Domini 2000 or Woman's Destiny", and cameos of other alternate histories. “The Rock of the Britannic Commonwealth,” an alliance of Britannic and former colonies as partner-nations in personal union and/or in association.

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Cannot think of a name
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New York Times Democracy

Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:42 am

Whatever works.

Any system is inherently corruptible with the weight of its own ideology. The idea that you can find one package that has all the answers is inherently destructive. It not only encourages blindness to weaknesses but defensiveness about them to the point one can become blind to the flaw and mistake it for a feature. Also, when run into the Coke vs Pepsi ringer, focus on flaws in ignorance of success means that dogma inhibits adoption of effective policy based on what shelf you pulled it from.

Take the labels off the shelves. Absolutely, those labels, the theories and principles they're built around are created as part of a whole and let the Marxes and the Adamses etc. fill up their shelves, but when it comes time to pull things down, don't focus on where you found it but where it gets you.

That's not always possible when we don't always agree on what the end product should be, yet rarely is that considered in the evaluation.

In that regard, 'what works' to me is judged by those who have the least. I think that notions like 'economic freedom' is not freedom, especially if it carries with it the inherent threat of starvation. I don't think we get the best from people by making them fight and compete to survive, but allow them to survive, to know that there is only so far they will fall, and we'll get amazing things. Capitalists believe this, they just don't think they do. They create all manner of protections for investment to encourage innovation, but somehow forget this principle when it comes to people. If we treated that risk with people, the things that they could accomplish would be amazing.

I don't care how we get there. I don't think that one ism or the other has the answers. I don't think there's a deck chair that we can rearrange that would make it magically happen. We have to agree on what the goal should be and stop worrying about what shelf each idea came from to address the problem.

I also don't believe a total utopia is possible. There will always be problems. There will be gaps. There will be unintended consequences. There will be blind spots. There will always be a need for vigilance and a willingness to rewrite the script to fix the flaws as we find them.

But we have to agree they're flaws. And sticking to a program, an ism, that can get in the way of recognizing a flaw.
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Libonesia
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Founded: Sep 06, 2017
New York Times Democracy

Postby Libonesia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:39 am

Moderate Islamism That Leans to the Centre Right Instead of Far Right, On Which We Believe in the Ideology of Inclusiveness or Pluralism and Democratic Institutions that as Characterised as Liberal Conservatism and Belief in Islamic Democracy.
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New Acardia
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Founded: Aug 04, 2009
Ex-Nation

Postby New Acardia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:45 am

Blue Collar Conservative
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Old Tyrannia
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Founded: Aug 11, 2009
Father Knows Best State

Postby Old Tyrannia » Wed Jan 27, 2021 3:47 am

Broadly speaking, a British classical conservative and monarchist. "Red Tory," "High Tory" and "one nation conservative" are also terms that I am comfortable with.
Anglican monarchist, paternalistic conservative and Christian existentialist.
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Mathuvan Union
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Founded: Feb 20, 2020
Father Knows Best State

Postby Mathuvan Union » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:26 am

Anarcho-Syndicalist if bloody autocorrect would let me type that
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Sundiata
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Founded: Sep 27, 2019
Ex-Nation

Postby Sundiata » Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:46 am

Still centrist, bordering on apolitical.
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Salus Maior
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Founded: Jun 16, 2014
Ex-Nation

Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:13 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:Broadly speaking, a British classical conservative and monarchist. "Red Tory," "High Tory" and "one nation conservative" are also terms that I am comfortable with.


Based.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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Salus Maior
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Founded: Jun 16, 2014
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Postby Salus Maior » Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:17 am

Nekostan-e Gharbi wrote:Nekostanism.
1. Philsemitism and Zionism. The Jewish people, the Jewish culture and the state of Israel are good and worthy of emulation by the rest of humanity. Jews and Israel are the Light Unto the Nations and rejection of Jews and Israel (I.e. antisemitism) leads to necessary rejection of life and self-destruction.


I mean, if you sincerely believe that why don't you convert? If you haven't already.
Traditionalist Catholic, Constitutional Monarchist, Habsburg Nostalgic, Distributist, Disillusioned Millennial.

"In any case we clearly see....That some opportune remedy must be found quickly for the misery and wretchedness pressing so unjustly on the majority of the working class...it has come to pass that working men have been surrendered, isolated and helpless, to the hardheartedness of employers and the greed of unchecked competition." -Pope Leo XIII, Rerum Novarum

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