Mass protests in Russia demanding release of Alexei Navalny

[Kowani]

Arrests hit 4,700 people

[The Huskar Social Union]

Arrests hit 4,700 people

They also arrested Moscow's silent guardian, its watchful protector:

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

This is my view as well.

It should be noted that the opposition leaders aren't liberal democrats. While I find it highly unlikely Putin will ever fall, even if he did, the opposition would establish another dictatorship.

Which brings up an important point, Russia as a concept has always been authoritarian. Not to sound like Nekostan, but it is indeed true that some nations, for all of history have existed in a certain form that has created a mindset of anything being outside that form unthinkable. The US, with its individualism and liberalism is an example of that, which is why I’ve always maintained that a third positionist authoritarian movement in the US had to do things no other similar movement would do such as accept gun rights and individualism as the core of society

[Kowani]

Arrests hit 4,700 people

They also arrested Moscow's silent guardian, its watchful protector:

Truly, Russia is lost

[Baltenstein]

This looks like a job for Russian Batman:

Who by the way is not an obscenely rich right-wing vigilante but a dirt-poor bomb-throwing anarchist, because Russian Reversal.

[Chan Island]

This looks like a job for Russian Batman:

(Image)

Who by the way is not an obscenely rich right-wing vigilante but a dirt-poor bomb-throwing anarchist, because Russian Reversal.

Too late, they've arrested Russian batman.

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[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

Abkhaz, South Ossetia, and Transnistria are all culturally Russian, there’s nothing wrong with supporting their annexation into Russia

Uh yah there is. Doesn’t matter if they’re ethnic Russians it’s, they lie outside of Russia’s territory.

No, that's not a problem. If they want to join Russia, they should be able to.
Crimea voted 83% to join Russia! And don't give me that 'They faked vote results' crap.
I don't believe all of Ukraine should join Russia, just the eastern half. The western part is culturally more similar to Poland.
Belarus is a complicated mess. Russia and Belarus have a personal union, so they act pretty much the same to the outside and it was supposed to be the first step to Unification. But Lukashenko kind of messed it up. If he just claimed to have maybe 20% less, there wouldn't be mass protests.
I believe unification between Eastern Ukraine, Belarus and Russia is a good idea, there just has to be a politician most can agree on. Not Navalny, his support is less than 10% of the population and most hate him for his egoistical attention-seeking and nationalistic self.
Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia should have all rights to join. Odessa, one of the Ukrainian, but Russian-supportive regions has a border with Transnistria (Pridnestrovye!), so that should be no problem. South Ossetia borders North-Ossetia and it would make sense for South Ossetia to join Russia. Abkhazia might actually like being its own country more.
One thing that many forget though: Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They left it like everyone else did. They just claimed the title later on as they were the largest republic.

[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

You can't be serious. None of those places are majority Russian.

The Russian Federation isn't an ethnic state. Your point isn't valid.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethnic_groups_in_Russia

True, but many of the ethnic groups mixed with Russian culture over time.
An example: Komi
The Komi are an ethnic group in the North of the European side of Russia. They have mixed with the Russians which leads to many words being similar to Russian (see: пожалуйста and пöжалуйста) and many beliefs becoming similar to christianity.

These kind of ethnic groups have peacefully joined the Russians and have been treated like everyone else. The Caucasus is different. Those are true fighters and when the Russians won against them many, while keeping their culture, joined or at least respected them. The Uralic and East-Russian cultures (Khanty-Mansi, Yakut, etc.) had a similar story to the Komi. Heck even the Aleut (which are mostly in Alaska) kept their Russian creole words! I don't know about Central Asia as I haven't researched that part of the world yet.

[-Ocelot-]

Realistically, how can Russia and the Russian people get rid of the parasitic oligarchy that's been plundering their wealth for decades?

[Resilient Acceleration]

Realistically, how can Russia and the Russian people get rid of the parasitic oligarchy that's been plundering their wealth for decades?

Realistically, not much tbh. Especially since (1) the Russian population is both shrinking and aging, halving the size of the armed forces by mid-2020's while increasing the percentage of ethnic minorities, and (2) oil and gas (which makes up around 50% of the state budget iirc) will increasingly be less and less profitable if not collapse entirely as the future rolls. So as a Russian saying goes, "and then it got worse."

[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

Realistically, how can Russia and the Russian people get rid of the parasitic oligarchy that's been plundering their wealth for decades?

If you look at history, you notice the Russian people continue living under such things until it's just a bit too much. I believe in the next few years there will a change. Maybe another president who would make a huge change or in the worst case, a revolution.

[Miternet]

It's kind of a vicious cycle really: Putin cracks down on freedoms so the people protest so Putin cracks down on the protests so the people protest so Putin cracks down...you get the idea.

To be honest I don't think Russia is going to last more than a couple more decades, if that. Putin's gotta be pushing 70 at this point and he's constructed such a personality cult around himself that after he dies there'll be a massive power vacuum. Many of Russia's downtrodden regions might well revolt, especially if the government clamps down on them like Putin did.

Eh I’d think Putin is the kind of guy that has continuity of government in mind.

Russia’s real problem is it’s shrinking population and vast expanse of territory in a warming world.

That too.

[-Ocelot-]

Realistically, how can Russia and the Russian people get rid of the parasitic oligarchy that's been plundering their wealth for decades?

Realistically, not much tbh. Especially since (1) the Russian population is both shrinking and aging, halving the size of the armed forces by mid-2020's while increasing the percentage of ethnic minorities, and (2) oil and gas (which makes up around 50% of the state budget iirc) will increasingly be less and less profitable if not collapse entirely as the future rolls. So as a Russian saying goes, "and then it got worse."

IIRC Russia has decades of natural gas exports because they start running out. And they are betting on climate change to change the country's weather in a beneficial way, so they can diversify away from oil.

[Cutis]

If you want to know whether this will impact Vladimir Putin, compare the sites of these protests with the locations where his vote percentages were lowest at the last presidential election.

If the protests occur where dissent has always been allowed, then this is effectively allowed dissent - i.e. it won't change anything.
If the protests occur where his percentages had been "manufactured", he could be in trouble.

[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

I hope for a slight change of attitude in the Russian government (not exactly a western-friendly, but a more nation-friendly and a Ukraine and Belarus-friendly). This would be enough. Navalny stinks. He never thanked the pilot and doctors in Omsk who saved his life. He is an ungrateful little Bi- Anyway. He might be released but should either be ejected from the country or he should thank the pilot and doctors and of course have a change of attitude!

[Adamede]

It should be noted that the opposition leaders aren't liberal democrats. While I find it highly unlikely Putin will ever fall, even if he did, the opposition would establish another dictatorship.

Which brings up an important point, Russia as a concept has always been authoritarian. Not to sound like Nekostan, but it is indeed true that some nations, for all of history have existed in a certain form that has created a mindset of anything being outside that form unthinkable. The US, with its individualism and liberalism is an example of that, which is why I’ve always maintained that a third positionist authoritarian movement in the US had to do things no other similar movement would do such as accept gun rights and individualism as the core of society

Not exactly all that authoritarian then.

Uh yah there is. Doesn’t matter if they’re ethnic Russians it’s, they lie outside of Russia’s territory.

No, that's not a problem. If they want to join Russia, they should be able to.
Crimea voted 83% to join Russia! And don't give me that 'They faked vote results' crap.
I don't believe all of Ukraine should join Russia, just the eastern half. The western part is culturally more similar to Poland.
Belarus is a complicated mess. Russia and Belarus have a personal union, so they act pretty much the same to the outside and it was supposed to be the first step to Unification. But Lukashenko kind of messed it up. If he just claimed to have maybe 20% less, there wouldn't be mass protests.
I believe unification between Eastern Ukraine, Belarus and Russia is a good idea, there just has to be a politician most can agree on. Not Navalny, his support is less than 10% of the population and most hate him for his egoistical attention-seeking and nationalistic self.
Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia should have all rights to join. Odessa, one of the Ukrainian, but Russian-supportive regions has a border with Transnistria (Pridnestrovye!), so that should be no problem. South Ossetia borders North-Ossetia and it would make sense for South Ossetia to join Russia. Abkhazia might actually like being its own country more.
One thing that many forget though: Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They left it like everyone else did. They just claimed the title later on as they were the largest republic.

Yah I don’t give a shit. That’s not a valid excuse for Russia to invade and annex any territory it wants.

[New Rogernomics]

Eventually someone like Alexei Navalny will topple the Putin order. Though it seems like Putin will have to die before that happens, as he is the 'stable' figure holding it together through his network of alliances in the military and intelligence services.

Putin's corrupt dealings with the other oligarchs also give him a sort of patronage system, where he is the top dog and they all support Putin to retain power.

[Mercatus]

Hm...

We must bring our great American ways to the Russian people and hand those protestors some select-fire weapons.

God be with them.

[New Bradenia Ghost]

What the Russian Government is doing with these protests is not fair. I support the Opposition (the Liberal, not the Socialist) and the release of Alexei Navalny

[Risottia]

Arrests hit 4,700 people

They also arrested Moscow's silent guardian, its watchful protector:

See? The Glorious Red Army of Workers and Peasants succeeds where the Armed Mob of the Lackeys of Capitalism fail.

[Kowani]

Navalny's just been sentenced to 3.5 years in prison

[Ethel mermania]

Navalny's just been sentenced to 3.5 years in prison

Well, there is a surprise.

[Alaska Hawaii and the Aleutes]

Which brings up an important point, Russia as a concept has always been authoritarian. Not to sound like Nekostan, but it is indeed true that some nations, for all of history have existed in a certain form that has created a mindset of anything being outside that form unthinkable. The US, with its individualism and liberalism is an example of that, which is why I’ve always maintained that a third positionist authoritarian movement in the US had to do things no other similar movement would do such as accept gun rights and individualism as the core of society

Not exactly all that authoritarian then.

No, that's not a problem. If they want to join Russia, they should be able to.
Crimea voted 83% to join Russia! And don't give me that 'They faked vote results' crap.
I don't believe all of Ukraine should join Russia, just the eastern half. The western part is culturally more similar to Poland.
Belarus is a complicated mess. Russia and Belarus have a personal union, so they act pretty much the same to the outside and it was supposed to be the first step to Unification. But Lukashenko kind of messed it up. If he just claimed to have maybe 20% less, there wouldn't be mass protests.
I believe unification between Eastern Ukraine, Belarus and Russia is a good idea, there just has to be a politician most can agree on. Not Navalny, his support is less than 10% of the population and most hate him for his egoistical attention-seeking and nationalistic self.
Transnistria, South Ossetia and Abkhazia should have all rights to join. Odessa, one of the Ukrainian, but Russian-supportive regions has a border with Transnistria (Pridnestrovye!), so that should be no problem. South Ossetia borders North-Ossetia and it would make sense for South Ossetia to join Russia. Abkhazia might actually like being its own country more.
One thing that many forget though: Russia isn't the Soviet Union. They left it like everyone else did. They just claimed the title later on as they were the largest republic.

Yah I don’t give a shit. That’s not a valid excuse for Russia to invade and annex any territory it wants.

Oh yes it is. If America is such a 'democratic' country, they should recognize referendums

[Dorylaeumnia]

Navalny's just been sentenced to 3.5 years in prison

Well, there is a surprise.

That Navalny wasn't killed or that Navalny got an okay prison sentence, especially since he already served about a year on house arrest?

[Ethel mermania]

Well, there is a surprise.

That Navalny wasn't killed or that Navalny got an okay prison sentence, especially since he already served about a year on house arrest?

The sentence in general, I dont agree its ok.

The guy clearly is either not to bright or suicidal. That he didn't think going back to jail was the inevitable outcome of his return to Soviet soil would be hilarious if it weren't so tragic.