The New Glass Ceiling or Due Progress?

[Postauthoritarian America]

Elections have consequences. Get used to it.

[Der Befreier]

Elections have consequences. Get used to it.

And in a true democracy, one does not ram through party or party based agenda with executive authority and loopholes. The people have a say in a true democracy.

[Albrenia]

Elections have consequences. Get used to it.

And in a true democracy, one does not ram through party or party based agenda with executive authority and loopholes. The people have a say in a true democracy.

Too bad Trump not only opened that door, he took it off the hinges and used it as firewood.

[Salus Maior]

Executive orders seem to be becoming more and more the way to enforce policy.

The particular issue aside, isn't this a bad precedent?

[Salus Maior]

Elections have consequences. Get used to it.

I imagine you wouldn't be happy if someone said this to you in 2016.

[Albrenia]

The particular issue aside, isn't this a bad precedent?

Pretty much. Except in cases where he's just removing old EOs or for doing things like emergency pandemic measures, in which case I'd say it's not bad.

[Salus Maior]

The particular issue aside, isn't this a bad precedent?

Pretty much. Except in cases where he's just removing old EOs or for doing things like emergency pandemic measures, in which case I'd say it's not bad.

Sure, sure.

Let's just hope that the Trumpist bloc, who do still exist and will continue to exist in the future, doesn't get its shit together next election and manage to put someone who knows what they're doing, and can use executive orders to enforce policy to this degree, and effectively.

Have some actual fascism.

[Albrenia]

Pretty much. Except in cases where he's just removing old EOs or for doing things like emergency pandemic measures, in which case I'd say it's not bad.

Sure, sure.

Let's just hope that the Trumpist bloc, who do still exist and will continue to exist in the future, doesn't get its shit together next election and manage to put someone who knows what they're doing, and can use executive orders to enforce policy to this degree, and effectively.

Have some actual fascism.

Very true, although I don't think even if Biden never issued a single EO it would stop the rule-by-decree style of Trump and his minions from happening.

[Salus Maior]

Sure, sure.

Let's just hope that the Trumpist bloc, who do still exist and will continue to exist in the future, doesn't get its shit together next election and manage to put someone who knows what they're doing, and can use executive orders to enforce policy to this degree, and effectively.

Have some actual fascism.

Very true, although I don't think even if Biden never issued a single EO it would stop the rule-by-decree style of Trump and his minions from happening.

It's scary to think that, in our system that supposedly has separation of powers, that the executive can do this much basically at will.

[Kowani]

Executive orders seem to be becoming more and more the way to enforce policy.

The particular issue aside, isn't this a bad precedent?

not really
the EO is enforcing a SCOTUS ruling
it's the definition of what you'd want one to be used for

[The Republic of Fore]

Boys don't belong in girls sports, period.

[Vassenor]

Boys don't belong in girls sports, period.

And who is advocating that? As opposed to letting girls take part in girls' sports.

[The Republic of Fore]

Boys don't belong in girls sports, period.

And who is advocating that? As opposed to letting girls take part in girls' sports.

Pretending to be a girl doesn't make you one. But sorry, I'll change my statement. Biological boys have no place in girls sports.

[Vassenor]

And who is advocating that? As opposed to letting girls take part in girls' sports.

Pretending to be a girl doesn't make you one. But sorry, I'll change my statement. Biological boys have no place in girls sports.

And how do you define that? And how do you enforce that definition?

Because I'm betting this turns into an excuse to examine girls' genitalia because this always does.

[The Republic of Fore]

Pretending to be a girl doesn't make you one. But sorry, I'll change my statement. Biological boys have no place in girls sports.

And how do you define that? And how do you enforce that definition?

Because I'm betting this turns into an excuse to examine girls' genitalia because this always does.

There's these things called birth certificates. They generally list the gender you were born as. If you live in a state where they can be changed, ask a simple question like "were you born with a penis?" IF yes, then you don't belong in girls sports.

[Vassenor]

And how do you define that? And how do you enforce that definition?

Because I'm betting this turns into an excuse to examine girls' genitalia because this always does.

There's these things called birth certificates. They generally list the gender you were born as. If you live in a state where they can be changed, ask a simple question like "were you born with a penis?" IF yes, then you don't belong in girls sports.

So we're banning intersex people from sport to appease your fee-fees?

[The Republic of Fore]

There's these things called birth certificates. They generally list the gender you were born as. If you live in a state where they can be changed, ask a simple question like "were you born with a penis?" IF yes, then you don't belong in girls sports.

So we're banning intersex people from sport to appease your fee-fees?

We're not letting people compete in sports that aren't for them just because of their fee-fees. There's no reason men need to play women's sports.

[Risottia]

There's these things called birth certificates. They generally list the gender you were born as.

No, they list the sex.

[Postauthoritarian America]

Elections have consequences. Get used to it.

And in a true democracy, one does not ram through party or party based agenda with executive authority and loopholes. The people have a say in a true democracy.

In a true democracy the candidate with more votes wins office. In a true democracy politicans representing less than half of the population which creates a quarter of the national wealth don't get to name a third of the judges to the highest court in the land or enact massive tax cuts to enrich their donors. In a true democracy neither the party that resorts to violence and intimidation to attempt to overturn the result of a free, fair and fraudless election nor its leaders get a mulligan. Need I go on?

Elections. Have. Consequences. For Republicans, too. Get used to it.

I imagine you wouldn't be happy if someone said this to you in 2016.

Ask all the people I said it to for the last four years when they mentioned they voted for Johnson or Stein or stayed home because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for the most qualified Presidential candidate in my lifetime since she was a woman or they didn't like her attitude or BENGHAAAAZIIIII or BUTTER EEEEEEMAIIIILS!!!!!

Elections. Have. Consequences. Nothing is truer in a true democracy.

[Sundiata]

President Biden's decision here is constitutional and it follows that transgender people have the constitutional right to play in a league that corresponds with the gender they identify as. While I disagree on moral grounds, President Biden's decision to my knowledge, is not incorrect constitutionally.

[Auzkhia]

And how do you define that? And how do you enforce that definition?

Because I'm betting this turns into an excuse to examine girls' genitalia because this always does.

There's these things called birth certificates. They generally list the gender you were born as. If you live in a state where they can be changed, ask a simple question like "were you born with a penis?" IF yes, then you don't belong in girls sports.

I was born 8 pounds and 6 ounces.

A lot has changed since.

And who is advocating that? As opposed to letting girls take part in girls' sports.

Pretending to be a girl doesn't make you one. But sorry, I'll change my statement. Biological boys have no place in girls sports.

I agree

The birth certificate rule is letting biological boys into girls' sports. He belongs with the boys and cis boys.

[Cordel One]

Boys don't belong in girls sports, period.

Much better idea: pool everyone together and put them into tiers based on skill, not genitals. Also, trans people are legitimate.

[The Republic of Fore]

And in a true democracy, one does not ram through party or party based agenda with executive authority and loopholes. The people have a say in a true democracy.

In a true democracy the candidate with more votes wins office. In a true democracy politicans representing less than half of the population which creates a quarter of the national wealth don't get to name a third of the judges to the highest court in the land or enact massive tax cuts to enrich their donors. In a true democracy neither the party that resorts to violence and intimidation to attempt to overturn the result of a free, fair and fraudless election nor its leaders get a mulligan. Need I go on?

Elections. Have. Consequences. For Republicans, too. Get used to it.

I imagine you wouldn't be happy if someone said this to you in 2016.

Ask all the people I said it to for the last four years when they mentioned they voted for Johnson or Stein or stayed home because they couldn't bring themselves to vote for the most qualified Presidential candidate in my lifetime since she was a woman or they didn't like her attitude or BENGHAAAAZIIIII or BUTTER EEEEEEMAIIIILS!!!!!

Elections. Have. Consequences. Nothing is truer in a true democracy.

Four years as secretary of state and 1.5 terms in the Senate doesn't make someone qualified.

[The Republic of Fore]

Boys don't belong in girls sports, period.

Much better idea: pool everyone together and put them into tiers based on skill, not genitals. Also, trans people are legitimate.

No they're not. And there's no reason to combine sports. The world won't end if boys have their thing and girls have another.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

No they're not.

Yes they are.

And there's no reason to combine sports. The world won't end if boys have their thing and girls have another.

And there’s no reason not to combine sports. The world won’t end if boys and girls complete against each other in the same sports.