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by Avaerilon » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:40 am
by Rosmana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:43 am
by Northern Socialist Council Republics » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:48 am
New American Unionist State wrote:I mean. South korea is makin it work ;)
by Stellar Colonies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:55 am
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Page » Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:59 am
by Andsed » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:00 am
by Cordel One » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:01 am
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:23 am
by Adamede » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:24 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Former Congressman Charles Rangel supported conscription as a means to control American adventurism.
When a professional army gets deployed to Iraq, they are all volunteers, and that is the expectation that an army gets used. If it was a conscript army getting deployed, the mothers of the drafted soldiers would be up in arms about it, and congress would not be so amenable to sending American troops to war zones unnecessarily.
Note the US military wants no part of conscription.
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:27 am
Adamede wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Former Congressman Charles Rangel supported conscription as a means to control American adventurism.
When a professional army gets deployed to Iraq, they are all volunteers, and that is the expectation that an army gets used. If it was a conscript army getting deployed, the mothers of the drafted soldiers would be up in arms about it, and congress would not be so amenable to sending American troops to war zones unnecessarily.
Note the US military wants no part of conscription.
Sure didn’t stop the shit show that was Vietnam.
Although we weren’t there for nearly as long as we’ve been in the sandbox.
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:33 am
Ethel mermania wrote:Former Congressman Charles Rangel supported conscription as a means to control American adventurism.
When a professional army gets deployed to Iraq, they are all volunteers, and that is the expectation that an army gets used. If it was a conscript army getting deployed, the mothers of the drafted soldiers would be up in arms about it, and congress would not be so amenable to sending American troops to war zones unnecessarily.
Note the US military wants no part of conscription.
by Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:37 am
by Ethel mermania » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:39 am
Saint Yosx wrote:Ethel mermania wrote:Former Congressman Charles Rangel supported conscription as a means to control American adventurism.
When a professional army gets deployed to Iraq, they are all volunteers, and that is the expectation that an army gets used. If it was a conscript army getting deployed, the mothers of the drafted soldiers would be up in arms about it, and congress would not be so amenable to sending American troops to war zones unnecessarily.
Note the US military wants no part of conscription.
I mean yeah it's kind of like a revere phycology effect, forcing people to go into battles they don't support would make people mad and protest would occur, so congressmen and politicians that want to stay in power would vote against the war. Therefore America would avoid costly and terrible wars. Imagine how people would look at the Vietnam war if there was no draft.... maybe more would have supported it?
by Rosmana » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:40 am
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I support conscription, if for no other reason than to straighten out kids and teach strict discipline and obedience
by Greater Victora » Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:42 am
by Aeritai » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:10 am
Cordel One wrote:Yes, and on a personal note I strongly sympathize with the Vietcong.
by Thermodolia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:18 am
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:New American Unionist State wrote:I mean. South korea is makin it work
It works... for whom, exactly?
If I flew in to Seoul tomorrow and offered people $250 a month to do backbreaking physical labour and stay on-call 24/7, literally nobody would take up that offer and I’d probably be arrested for labour law violations, and rightfully so.
But when it’s their national government doing it its somehow suddenly all hunky-dory.
Conscription is a borderline human rights violation.
by Stellar Colonies » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:34 am
Floofybit wrote:Your desired society should be one where you are submissive and controlled
Primitive Communism wrote:What bodily autonomy do men need?
Techocracy101010 wrote:If she goes on a rampage those saggy wonders are as deadly as nunchucks
Parmistan wrote:It's not ALWAYS acceptable when we do it, but it's MORE acceptable when we do it.
Theodorable wrote:Jihad will win.
Distruzio wrote:All marriage outside the Church is gay marriage.
I try to be objective, but I do have some biases.
North Californian.
Stellar Colonies is a loose galactic confederacy.
The Confederacy & the WA.
Add 1200 years.
by Autumn Wind » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:35 am
Thermodolia wrote:Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:It works... for whom, exactly?
If I flew in to Seoul tomorrow and offered people $250 a month to do backbreaking physical labour and stay on-call 24/7, literally nobody would take up that offer and I’d probably be arrested for labour law violations, and rightfully so.
But when it’s their national government doing it its somehow suddenly all hunky-dory.
Conscription is a borderline human rights violation.
Conscription doesn’t mean you aren’t paid.
by The Python » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:36 am
by CoraSpia » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:38 am
by Penguinya » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:39 am
I use NS stats because the Pacific has a guidebook.
by Saint Yosx » Fri Jan 22, 2021 11:40 am
Autumn Wind wrote:I don’t see the value in quadrupling the size of the military just to babysit people who don’t want to be there.
One of the factors that make the military as professional as it is is the fact that everyone there is a volunteer-at one extent or another the overwhelming majority want to be there, and it contributes to maintaining and reinforcing morale/responsibility/professionalism. If you dumped millions of unwilling individuals who don’t care about consequences into the mix, the whole system would collapse.
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