A gun in every house is a must

[Adamede]

Sure, except your option is to arm everyone and mine is to arm no one.

Your option is dead on arrival. When Sandy Hook increased sales of guns, we should have realized taking guns away was never going to happen.

Should’ve realized guns would never be taken away because they’re son ingrained into the history and culture of a rebellious settler nation.

[Necroghastia]

Yeah, no, I don't want a gun. I don't trust myself to own one.

[Galloism]

You're all being foolish. I would not trust most people to use gun correctly (myself included), even when trained.

Swords on the other hand...

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

Unless you are Seifer, it’s very difficult to wield both at once.

[Bombadil]

Sure, except your option is to arm everyone and mine is to arm no one.

Your option is dead on arrival. When Sandy Hook increased sales of guns, we should have realized taking guns away was never going to happen.

Well we're mixing a hypothetical here with reality. The problem in the US is that it's a political issue not a rational issue - guns, abortion, religion.. as the quote goes 'bringing facts to an emotional debate is like bringing a knife to a gun fight'.

[Freiheit Reich]

There is a hole in this scenario if we were to apply it to real life.

Half the people in the room have guns, the other half dont.

Which is why I'm happy to have a gun. The ideal situation is a room full of ten people where only I have a gun and rule as their overlord, presenting the sandwich as something for them to aspire to earn when in reality it is all for me.

If we are locked in this room, a sandwich will not increase our life expectancy very much. I would want to use the gun to shoot myself when starvation becomes too painful to endure.

[Iwassoclose]

Yeah, no, I don't want a gun. I don't trust myself to own one.

Then you dont get one.

Which is why I'm happy to have a gun. The ideal situation is a room full of ten people where only I have a gun and rule as their overlord, presenting the sandwich as something for them to aspire to earn when in reality it is all for me.

If we are locked in this room, a sandwich will not increase our life expectancy very much. I would want to use the gun to shoot myself when starvation becomes too painful to endure.

Its three days without food, calm down.

[Adamede]

In that case, alcohol, tobacco, and cars also need to be banned.

Just like guns, not an option.

I mean it was an option. Just not one that works.

[Bombadil]

Your option is dead on arrival. When Sandy Hook increased sales of guns, we should have realized taking guns away was never going to happen.

Should’ve realized guns would never be taken away because they’re son ingrained into the history and culture of a rebellious settler nation.

It wasn't even an issue until the 70's and the Southern Strategy, it was known as the 'forgotten clause'.

[Freiheit Reich]

Guns should be banned in America.

I don’t like the school shootings. I don’t like the gun crimes.

Guns need to be banned but America’s problematic democratic/presidential structure prevents any meaningful action. Citizens will just lobby to keep their guns, even though gun violence continues to harm innocents every year. It is a flaw of the American system.

Will you also ban the police and the military from having guns? If you don't, it can lead to totalitarianism.

[Atheris]

You're all being foolish. I would not trust most people to use gun correctly (myself included), even when trained.

Swords on the other hand...

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

It's hilarious how you have no sense of humor!

[Freiheit Reich]

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

Unless you are Seifer, it’s very difficult to wield both at once.

I meant the sword would be a good backup if my gun jammed or I ran out of bullets.

[Adamede]

The one with none because if things get violent the room with guns is on equal footing and the room without guns will be run by the physically strong. I figure between women, the infirm, the old, and the young there's a solid chance that I'm tougher than many or even most people in the second room and therefore able to control them. That's the shitty thing about guns, they introduce a level of equality into situations where the strong could otherwise rule the weak.

I view that as a danger, I mean if the strongest person in the room decides to take the sandwich, fine, I can survive 3 days without eating.. but in a room where everyone's equal the opportunity for dispute is raised with deadly consequences.

More people are killed in the US by hands and feet than are with AR15’s each year. If sticking a bunch of people with guns in a room for 3 days and only one sand which will turn deadly sticking a bunch of people without guns in a room with a so gun le sandwich for 3 days will be deadly as well.

[UniversalCommons]

In both situations it depends on how well people know how to fight with guns or fists. Once you have figured out who knows how to fight, it is a matter of who will cooperate. If you have two people who know how to fight, you can share the sandwich. Three days is not long enough to starve. Destroy the sandwich. Most people can survive between 8 and 21 days without food and water. Enjoy a short fast.

A really dangerous man will not worry about whether they have a gun or not. A gun is an extension of your fist.

[Bombadil]

You're all being foolish. I would not trust most people to use gun correctly (myself included), even when trained.

Swords on the other hand...

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

I'd prefer a locked door and a telephone myself.

[Stellar Colonies]

Guns should be banned in America.

I don’t like the school shootings. I don’t like the gun crimes.

Guns need to be banned but America’s problematic democratic/presidential structure prevents any meaningful action. Citizens will just lobby to keep their guns, even though gun violence continues to harm innocents every year. It is a flaw of the American system.

Guns aren't really the inherent problem, the violence is a side effect of societal issues.

Restricted? Probably to an extent.

Banned? Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell no.

[Adamede]

Should’ve realized guns would never be taken away because they’re son ingrained into the history and culture of a rebellious settler nation.

It wasn't even an issue until the 70's and the Southern Strategy, it was known as the 'forgotten clause'.

Ah, yet another thing the Southern strategy ruined.

[Galloism]

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

I'd prefer a locked door and a telephone myself.

Most doors aren’t really that sturdy, particularly interior doors that are typically hollow since insulation is not an issue and it makes it lighter, cheaper, and easier to operate.

Unless you have a panic room, a locked door is basically a test of the attacker’s willingness more than a defense.

[Adamede]

What if a criminal is forcing his way into your home with the intention of raping and killing you? I would prefer having a gun than a sword (both are not a bad idea).

I'd prefer a locked door and a telephone myself.

Unless it’s a reinforced panic room that locked door isn’t particularly a great obstacle for the robber.

[Bombadil]

I'd prefer a locked door and a telephone myself.

Most doors aren’t really that sturdy, particularly interior doors that are typically hollow since insulation is not an issue and it makes it lighter, cheaper, and easier to operate.

Unless you have a panic room, a locked door is basically a test of the attacker’s willingness more than a defense.

Maybe invest in a better door than a gun then

[Adamede]

In both situations it depends on how well people know how to fight with guns or fists. Once you have figured out who knows how to fight, it is a matter of who will cooperate. If you have two people who know how to fight, you can share the sandwich. Three days is not long enough to starve. Destroy the sandwich. Most people can survive between 8 and 21 days without food and water. Enjoy a short fast.

A really dangerous man will not worry about whether they have a gun or not. A gun is an extension of your fist.

Pretty much. Although I’d say splitting the sandwich and everyone eating their portion at the same time is probably a better solution to just destroying it.

[Galloism]

Most doors aren’t really that sturdy, particularly interior doors that are typically hollow since insulation is not an issue and it makes it lighter, cheaper, and easier to operate.

Unless you have a panic room, a locked door is basically a test of the attacker’s willingness more than a defense.

Maybe invest in a better door than a gun then

I mean, to make a door strong enough to be a real deterrent, it would cost several times more than a gun, and generally be a pain in the ass to use.

[Senkaku]

Just what an unstable society needs, lethal weapons for every dumbass!

[Iwassoclose]

Just what an unstable society needs, lethal weapons for every dumbass!

Half the dumbasses already owns multiple guns.

[Adamede]

Most doors aren’t really that sturdy, particularly interior doors that are typically hollow since insulation is not an issue and it makes it lighter, cheaper, and easier to operate.

Unless you have a panic room, a locked door is basically a test of the attacker’s willingness more than a defense.

Maybe invest in a better door than a gun then

Or save the money and get a gun and gun safe.

[Ethel mermania]

Reads OP,

On the bright side, folks who don't clean up theirs dogs crap will think twice.