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Guns for everyone

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Thermodolia
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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:24 am

Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
UniversalCommons wrote:Unless you are dealing with a whack job, most robbers are going to rob you when you are not home. All they need to do is find out you are on vacation, you posted some pictures of you being in the Caribbean or something, or you are at some event, you are sitting down in your favorite restaurant, or are at a specific place where you spend several hours like the gym or a meeting. This is not hard to do. Basically, someone waits there and orders coffee. This is why it is important to have good neighbors.


Actually you should have installed landmines on your lawn and a trapdoor beneath your porch so when they try to pick the lock, it swings open.

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Postby Thermodolia » Wed Mar 17, 2021 11:26 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Now this will sound patronizing, but ... instead of trying to protect yourself with a reputation as someone who always shoots back, wouldn't it be better to move some place where people don't shoot at you?

I’d rather have that reputation than move out of a home that I don’t plan on leaving for the next 60 years.
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Postby The Two Jerseys » Wed Mar 17, 2021 1:23 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Actually you should have installed landmines on your lawn and a trapdoor beneath your porch so when they try to pick the lock, it swings open.

Alexa, release the roombas!!

The Boombas.
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:12 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
Borderlands of Rojava wrote:
Actually you should have installed landmines on your lawn and a trapdoor beneath your porch so when they try to pick the lock, it swings open.

Alexa, release the roombas!!

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Postby The Two Jerseys » Thu Mar 18, 2021 1:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:Alexa, release the roombas!!

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UniversalCommons
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Postby UniversalCommons » Thu Mar 18, 2021 4:02 pm

It is kind of strange. What I am reading is that 28% of robberies occur while a person is home.

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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:17 pm

The Two Jerseys wrote:
Ifreann wrote:
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The one with the claymore is the only remotely scary one, and that only because claymores can be rigged to be triggered by electronic eye or remote detonation. None of the others has any physical means of using their weapons besides ramming at a speed too slow to do any damage, assuming the motors can even handle the weight.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:15 pm

Thermodolia wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Now this will sound patronizing, but ... instead of trying to protect yourself with a reputation as someone who always shoots back, wouldn't it be better to move some place where people don't shoot at you?

I’d rather have that reputation than move out of a home that I don’t plan on leaving for the next 60 years.


Have you ever been shot at, while on the street minding your own business?

Also, if you don't have it already, get life insurance.
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A-Series-Of-Tubes
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Thu Mar 18, 2021 9:21 pm

UniversalCommons wrote:It is kind of strange. What I am reading is that 28% of robberies occur while a person is home.


Could be some reporting bias there.

I know some people don't report a burglary, if nothing of substantial replacement cost was taken. Because making an insurance claim will lose a bonus which is worth more over a few years, might increase their premiums, and might have the insurer around demanding alarms or better locks.

Or they might not have insurance at all. The chances of getting their stuff back are minimal, so why bother showing the cops around your house?
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Postby Kernen » Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:59 pm

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Thermodolia wrote:I’d rather have that reputation than move out of a home that I don’t plan on leaving for the next 60 years.


Have you ever been shot at, while on the street minding your own business?

Also, if you don't have it already, get life insurance.

The woods but yes.
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Daves Computer
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Postby Daves Computer » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:51 am

Kernen wrote:
A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
Have you ever been shot at, while on the street minding your own business?

Also, if you don't have it already, get life insurance.

The woods but yes.

With no context, it sounds like you might have been shot at because someone was hunting unaware of your presence or mistaking you for an animal. If my interpretation is proper, at least in that context, you wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself but rather a declaration that human hunting season isn't until next month.

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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Fri Mar 19, 2021 1:57 am

Daves Computer wrote:
Kernen wrote:The woods but yes.

With no context, it sounds like you might have been shot at because someone was hunting unaware of your presence or mistaking you for an animal. If my interpretation is proper, at least in that context, you wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself but rather a declaration that human hunting season isn't until next month.


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Randy Kingdom
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Postby Randy Kingdom » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:02 am

My kingdom is proof guns = a safer society

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Miku the Based
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Postby Miku the Based » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:50 am

Randy Kingdom wrote:My kingdom is proof guns = a safer society

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Postby Jebslund » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:20 am

Miku the Based wrote:
Randy Kingdom wrote:My kingdom is proof guns = a safer society

Careful with posting OOC in general.

You mean IC. OOC is Out Of Character (IE: as the user, not the nation/nation's leader).

Randy Kingdom wrote:My kingdom is proof guns = a safer society

Randy Kingdom is proof of nothing. NS is a satirical game.
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.
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Postby Kernen » Fri Mar 19, 2021 3:51 am

Daves Computer wrote:
Kernen wrote:The woods but yes.

With no context, it sounds like you might have been shot at because someone was hunting unaware of your presence or mistaking you for an animal. If my interpretation is proper, at least in that context, you wouldn't need a gun to protect yourself but rather a declaration that human hunting season isn't until next month.

Yeah, that wasn't what happened.
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Miku the Based
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Postby Miku the Based » Sat Mar 20, 2021 10:36 pm

Jebslund wrote:
Miku the Based wrote:Careful with posting OOC in general.

You mean IC. OOC is Out Of Character (IE: as the user, not the nation/nation's leader).

Thank you for the correction
Jebslund wrote:
Randy Kingdom wrote:My kingdom is proof guns = a safer society

Randy Kingdom is proof of nothing. NS is a satirical game.

Impmying NS nations has to be satirical.
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Postby ImperialRussia » Sun Mar 21, 2021 12:55 am

If you being invaded and enemy soldiers have a wipe out order on the city would you be glad a least you have guns to defend your family and along with your neighbors to create a Militia and fight against foreign invaders that reject the right that you live.

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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:29 am

ImperialRussia wrote:If you being invaded and enemy soldiers have a wipe out order on the city would you be glad a least you have guns to defend your family and along with your neighbors to create a Militia and fight against foreign invaders that reject the right that you live.

If I am being invaded by an enemy sufficiently strong to defeat the regular national military, I very much doubt that me flailing about with a rifle is going to help.
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Grinning Dragon
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Postby Grinning Dragon » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:34 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
ImperialRussia wrote:If you being invaded and enemy soldiers have a wipe out order on the city would you be glad a least you have guns to defend your family and along with your neighbors to create a Militia and fight against foreign invaders that reject the right that you live.

If I am being invaded by an enemy sufficiently strong to defeat the regular national military, I very much doubt that me flailing about with a rifle is going to help.

At the least you can a kill a few of the cunts on your way out.

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Postby Picairn » Sun Mar 21, 2021 1:34 am

ImperialRussia wrote:If you being invaded and enemy soldiers have a wipe out order on the city would you be glad a least you have guns to defend your family and along with your neighbors to create a Militia and fight against foreign invaders that reject the right that you live.

Nope, the smart thing to do is to gather your stuff, your family, your friends and get the fuck out of the war zone first. The enemy can surround the city, cut off its supplies and bomb it to shreds. I don't want to kamikaze myself by making a heroic, but stupid last stand. So long as I can live, I will always find an opportunity to fight. A surrounded city is not one.
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Jebslund
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Postby Jebslund » Sun Mar 21, 2021 2:22 am

Miku the Based wrote:
Jebslund wrote:
Randy Kingdom is proof of nothing. NS is a satirical game.

Impmying NS nations has to be satirical.

The very nature of NS's design makes it very unrealistic, even if you are trying to be realistic. Every Issue is designed such that there are no reasonable options, and those that seem reasonable on the face of it have unintended consequences that are not. Even if a player doesn't use NS stats, that just makes the situation such that it goes in the direction the author wants it to, leading to it once again being no proof.

Any further discussion of this should probably be moved to telegrams to avoid a threadjack.
Jebslund is a nation of kerbals ruled by Emperor Jebediah Kerman. We reject tyranny, believing that rights should be protected, though we also believe said rights end where the rights of others begin.
Shockingly, we *do* use NS stats, with the exception of lifespan.
Singular sapient: Jebslunder
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Singular/Plural nonsapient: Kermanic
Note: When a verb can logically only be done by the sapient using/piloting/holding the object in question, then the appropriate demonym for the number of sapients is used.

Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are ECONOMIC SYSTEMS. Stop conflating them with political systems.

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Kernen
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Postby Kernen » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:37 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:If I am being invaded by an enemy sufficiently strong to defeat the regular national military, I very much doubt that me flailing about with a rifle is going to help.

At the least you can a kill a few of the cunts on your way out.

Or surrender and live.

In my old age, living seems preferable to a last stand.
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Postby Adamede » Sun Mar 21, 2021 4:40 am

Kernen wrote:
Grinning Dragon wrote:At the least you can a kill a few of the cunts on your way out.

Or surrender and live.

In my old age, living seems preferable to a last stand.

Depends on what comes after.

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Postby Kernen » Sun Mar 21, 2021 6:00 am

Adamede wrote:
Kernen wrote:Or surrender and live.

In my old age, living seems preferable to a last stand.

Depends on what comes after.

Without knowing what will happen, its a gamble. I like my gambles ending with me alive.
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