American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[New haven america]

Sure we can.

Beijing is literally right on the coast (Well, a couple miles away), surrounded by mountains and hills on 3 sides, and has plenty of paved roads, waterways, and airports to move troops around in. It could be taken within 3-6 months of troops landing there.

The actual main culprit for starting nuclear war would be North Korea, as China's not willing to risk the economic collapse and internal destabilization a nuclear hit in the country would cause. NK OTOH hand, has nothing to lose.

That argument only works as long the Chinese government is expecting to win. The moment it becomes obvious that they're going to lose the war, what do they have to lose?

I just said.

Even if they're on the losing end internal destabilization and economic repercussions are still a major issue for China. Funnily enough, not all of the provinces actually like CCP and would have no issue starting skirmishes within the country or stealing arms to go against the government, and also, most of China wealthiest and most powerful aren't fans of the CCP either, they just deal with them to appease their government.

Basically, if China wants to continue surviving as an actual entity on the Earth, it can't start a Nuclear War.

[Freiheit Reich]

The World Health Organization should be mature and not play politics. This is a HEALTH organization and not a military organization. Why don't they care about Taiwan citizens or value them as much? Tell the PRC in a polite way that you will admit the ROC and tell the ROC that the PRC will also be a member. Let both countries (yes-I think they are both countries) decide if they can accept those terms. Same goes for the UN.

Why should the USA support an organization that is so disrespectful to an ally?

Because the US recognized the PRC as the official governing body of China and as such the UN has to follow suit.

This is technically the US' fault.

OK. If we made a mistake, we should fix it. I believe a different president is now in charge since the 'one China policy' recognition.

[Comerciante]

Freiheit, no one has given a shit about the wall since 2017.

It's yesterdays news when we have a pandemic on and a domestic terrorist threat.

Then why did the person post about it today? Are people only allowed to discuss the wall if they want to criticize it?

To be fair theirs very little to be said about the wall except for criticism.

[The Marlborough]

Alas, China isn't worthy of resect in that field, either. Committing genocide does make a good casus belli as long as you can be sure of victory. Our problem with China is simply we can't be sure of victory.

Sure we can.

Beijing is literally right on the coast (Well, a couple miles away), surrounded by mountains and hills on 3 sides, and has plenty of paved roads, waterways, and airports to move troops around in. It could be taken within 3-6 months of troops landing there.

The actual main culprit for starting nuclear war would be North Korea, as China's not willing to risk the economic collapse and internal destabilization a nuclear hit in the country would cause. NK OTOH hand, has nothing to lose.

Real life isn't a video game where taking the capital is an instant win for the invading force. Also I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Beijing is a coastal city, when it's 150km from Tianjin which is the closest major coastal city to Beijing.

[National Capitalist United States]

I wonder what Biden's agenda will be

more black women bombing kids in the middle east

[Nekostan-e Gharbi]

That’s not how it works in practice. An ethnic group has imaginary shared ancestors. When people look sufficiently different from each other and self-segregate the myth of shared ancestry falls apart. This is why separate but equal does not actually help people get along. It’s either fully merging or eventually ethnonationalism is going to show its ugly head.

Assimilation and acculturation have been a part of human history since the beginning. Ever wonder why people from India all the way to Portugal share the same language family? Race on the other hand, has proven itself to be a social construct. Culture is the only determining factor to national cohesion, and America has a long history of cultural assimilation, which is why postmodernist multiculturalism needs to be resisted

America never managed to bridge the white-black difference. Nor did Medieval Arabs and many other groups of people. This shows that appearance does actually affect social cohesion at least when blacks and non-blacks are concerned. The only way to bridge the gap is to be like Argentina and Mexico and actually biologically merge them. Not Jim Crow but not black identity politics either. Just completely ignore the existence of race, ban race-based claims and merge them.

[New haven america]

Sure we can.

Beijing is literally right on the coast (Well, a couple miles away), surrounded by mountains and hills on 3 sides, and has plenty of paved roads, waterways, and airports to move troops around in. It could be taken within 3-6 months of troops landing there.

The actual main culprit for starting nuclear war would be North Korea, as China's not willing to risk the economic collapse and internal destabilization a nuclear hit in the country would cause. NK OTOH hand, has nothing to lose.

As was Nanjing 84 years ago. Easily captured, but the war did not stop just because all of China's eastern cities fell. You think the Iraq mess was bad, try repeating the Chinese theatre of WW2 with more and easier-to-build IEDs and an actual industrial base in the interior.

Most Chinese aren't actually fond of or loyal to the CCP though.

Why would they fight for something the majority doesn't want around? Most are actually pretty indifferent to any political goings on in the country to begin with.

[Cordel One]

I'm going to hold Joe Biden to his word. When he promises healing and unity, I expect to see healing and unity. I am hopeful that the coronavirus and climate change will be seriously addressed under his administration.

I expect him to never cave to the demands of extremists on all sides, including fascists and white supremacists. I expect him to be just as tough on Antifa and BLM as he is on Trump supporters. I expect him to be just as much in favor of locking down entire cities in response to Antifa riots, arson, and looting as much as rioting and insurrection by right-wing militias. I expect less ideological hubris and snobbery and more humility and reflection.

I expect him to stand up to the corrupt, corporate, neoliberal lobby that has sold its soul to the highest bidders, particularly the PRC. I expect crippling sanctions, tariffs, blockades, and reparations to be leveled against the Chinese economy and officials as payback for the coronavirus pandemic and the millions of deaths and economic fallout resulting from the pandemic, and the PRC's continued subjugation of Hong Kong. I expect woke, virtue-signaling companies such as Blizzard to be compelled to withdraw from the Chinese market or face legal action, in order that I may enjoy their services once again.

I expect him to enforce a hardline, zero-tolerance policy against illegal immigration and ensure that deportations are swift. This will set a clear example to other countries around the world that have had to deal with illegals on a significant scale.

I expect him not to be yet another spineless, neoliberal coward like Obama was. I expect him to be a strong, decisive leader who knows when to talk tough and back up his tough rhetoric with tough actions, particularly against China. You cannot negotiate with bullies. America must always display unparalleled strength.

Don't worry. Joe Biden is a big, strong neocon who drafted the PATRIOT Act and campaigned for war in Iraq long before it was cool. He WILL commit war crimes, an he WILL turn a blind eye to police brutality. In other words, we'll get the Democrat version of H.W.

[Agarntrop]

Because the US recognized the PRC as the official governing body of China and as such the UN has to follow suit.

This is technically the US' fault.

OK. If we made a mistake, we should fix it. I believe a different president is now in charge since the 'one China policy' recognition.

Acting like the Chinese government is in Taipei would completely cut us off the Chinese market; let's not do that.

[Cannot think of a name]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

[Agarntrop]

I'm going to hold Joe Biden to his word. When he promises healing and unity, I expect to see healing and unity. I am hopeful that the coronavirus and climate change will be seriously addressed under his administration.

I expect him to never cave to the demands of extremists on all sides, including fascists and white supremacists. I expect him to be just as tough on Antifa and BLM as he is on Trump supporters. I expect him to be just as much in favor of locking down entire cities in response to Antifa riots, arson, and looting as much as rioting and insurrection by right-wing militias. I expect less ideological hubris and snobbery and more humility and reflection.

I expect him to stand up to the corrupt, corporate, neoliberal lobby that has sold its soul to the highest bidders, particularly the PRC. I expect crippling sanctions, tariffs, blockades, and reparations to be leveled against the Chinese economy and officials as payback for the coronavirus pandemic and the millions of deaths and economic fallout resulting from the pandemic, and the PRC's continued subjugation of Hong Kong. I expect woke, virtue-signaling companies such as Blizzard to be compelled to withdraw from the Chinese market or face legal action, in order that I may enjoy their services once again.

I expect him to enforce a hardline, zero-tolerance policy against illegal immigration and ensure that deportations are swift. This will set a clear example to other countries around the world that have had to deal with illegals on a significant scale.

I expect him not to be yet another spineless, neoliberal coward like Obama was. I expect him to be a strong, decisive leader who knows when to talk tough and back up his tough rhetoric with tough actions, particularly against China. You cannot negotiate with bullies. America must always display unparalleled strength.

Don't worry. Joe Biden is a big, strong neocon who drafted the PATRIOT Act and campaigned for war in Iraq long before it was cool. He WILL commit war crimes, an he WILL turn a blind eye to police brutality. In other words, we'll get the Democrat version of H.W.

Wow what an edgelord we have here

[San Lumen]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

Sorcery obviously. She’s a puppet of Lord Voldemort

[Andsed]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

The next 4 years are just gonna be a breath of fresh air from the antics of Trump.

[Maineiacs]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

How long do you think it will take "normal" to not look abnormal?

[Kowani]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

it's so weirddd

[Bombadil]

OK. If we made a mistake, we should fix it. I believe a different president is now in charge since the 'one China policy' recognition.

Acting like the Chinese government is in Taipei would completely cut us off the Chinese market; let's not do that.

It's not acting like the Chinese government is in Taipei, its acting like Taiwan is its own separate country with its own government and people rather than leaving them isolated from global bodies.

[New haven america]

I'm going to hold Joe Biden to his word. When he promises healing and unity, I expect to see healing and unity. I am hopeful that the coronavirus and climate change will be seriously addressed under his administration.

I expect him to never cave to the demands of extremists on all sides, including fascists and white supremacists. I expect him to be just as tough on Antifa and BLM as he is on Trump supporters. I expect him to be just as much in favor of locking down entire cities in response to Antifa riots, arson, and looting as much as rioting and insurrection by right-wing militias. I expect less ideological hubris and snobbery and more humility and reflection.

I expect him to stand up to the corrupt, corporate, neoliberal lobby that has sold its soul to the highest bidders, particularly the PRC. I expect crippling sanctions, tariffs, blockades, and reparations to be leveled against the Chinese economy and officials as payback for the coronavirus pandemic and the millions of deaths and economic fallout resulting from the pandemic, and the PRC's continued subjugation of Hong Kong. I expect woke, virtue-signaling companies such as Blizzard to be compelled to withdraw from the Chinese market or face legal action, in order that I may enjoy their services once again.

I expect him to enforce a hardline, zero-tolerance policy against illegal immigration and ensure that deportations are swift. This will set a clear example to other countries around the world that have had to deal with illegals on a significant scale.

I expect him not to be yet another spineless, neoliberal coward like Obama was. I expect him to be a strong, decisive leader who knows when to talk tough and back up his tough rhetoric with tough actions, particularly against China. You cannot negotiate with bullies. America must always display unparalleled strength.

The Reps don't want any of that though.

[National Capitalist United States]

Don't worry. Joe Biden is a big, strong neocon who drafted the PATRIOT Act and campaigned for war in Iraq long before it was cool. He WILL commit war crimes, an he WILL turn a blind eye to police brutality. In other words, we'll get the Democrat version of H.W.

Wow what an edgelord we have here

No, no, he's got a point

[Silvedania]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

How long do you think it will take "normal" to not look abnormal?

Forever

[Jerzylvania]

Trying to watch the news without Donald Trump is going to be like trying to watch Mock the Week after Frankie Boyle left, or House of Cards after Kevin Spacey left. I mean I know they're still going to make episodes but it won't be as entertaining.

The last four years have been like riding an upside down roller coaster into the abyss. Initially it plummets downward into the dark with scary drops with twists and turns, getting even darker and much colder. Four years later on the last day it finally rockets upward you can see the light shining and feel the warmth of decency again.

[Cordel One]

Don't worry. Joe Biden is a big, strong neocon who drafted the PATRIOT Act and campaigned for war in Iraq long before it was cool. He WILL commit war crimes, an he WILL turn a blind eye to police brutality. In other words, we'll get the Democrat version of H.W.

Wow what an edgelord we have here

I'm so glad you liked my rant

[New haven america]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

The next 4 years are just gonna be a breath of fresh air from the antics of Trump.

And if history is anything to go by, we'll be getting a new Rep in office to ruin it all.

[Freiheit Reich]

Because the US recognized the PRC as the official governing body of China and as such the UN has to follow suit.

This is technically the US' fault.

Yeah, and now we're so economically dependent on China that cutting them off would mean economic collapse. Short-term because we could bring jobs back(and short term meaning five years), but collapse nonetheless.

We would have some challenges but I think Americans can survive without the latest iPhone and laptop for a couple years. Soybean prices would fall but farmers did fine in the 1960's when China was not buying so many soybeans. Americans need to unite. In the 1940's, Americans were willing to accept rations and planted victory gardens. What happened to that spirit of making sacrifices if necessary (besides just putting a yellow ribbon on your car and saying 'I support the troops' while being urged to buy more stuff)?

Asking people to wait a bit to get the latest iPhone or buy clothes made in Latin America and Haiti is not much to ask. We aren't asking young men to be drafted to fight China.

[Odreria]

Most Chinese aren't actually fond of or loyal to the CCP though.

This is an out of character forum.

[Cannot think of a name]

Look at her, answering questions, not insulting people, not talking shit. What even is this...

How long do you think it will take "normal" to not look abnormal?

Right about the time Biden fucks up in a real way. Not a 'we misunderstood and are going to stick by it because we like being mad for being mad's sake' but actually does something wrong and the defensiveness still isn't "YOU'RE POOPY HEADS!" We'll have that comfortable disappointment in our leaders with that same comfortable attempts to assert they're on it.