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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:30 am

Valrifell wrote:
Celritannia wrote:There are too much religious speeches for an inauguration of a President of a secular nation.


The majority of the nation are deeply convicted Christians.


I doubt that. But it's not the point. Religion at an official ceremony is "institution" of religion.
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Postby Atheris » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 am

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Don’t need to see video for a pretty safe guess of what they are going to do.

Don’t need to give air time or views to ignorant people.


It's actually CTV news and Citytv news, Canadian news networks posting on youtube that have maga hat comments copeing.

The latest comment is just "COPE TRUMPERS COPE TRUMPERS COPE TRUMPERS" over and over. What a time to be alive.
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Postby La Paz de Los Ricos » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 am

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"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%."-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it has and that is not always a good thing.


He never said that:

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Postby Picairn » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%."-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it has and that is not always a good thing.

Because Tyranny by Minority created by voter suppression is better.

Move along.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:31 am

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Weird. Probably not an accident. I wonder if the P and VP will be off-stage at the hour?


IIRC, the oath is supposed to be done before noon, because it has to be finished at the point at which he becomes President.

Not true. An oath is not required to become president. The inauguration ran late in 2008 and Obama become president at noon.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:32 am

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She was a better speaker then Biden tbh!

She's a poet, I hope so.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:32 am

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Not to mention swearing in on a Bible, but hey, it's America.


Well, a President can swear on anything.
Why not an issue of Batman?


Yes. That's the new President's choice so it's not "institution".
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Postby Freiheit Reich » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:32 am

Atheris wrote:Trump's last policy changes as President, all of which are anti-LGBT+.



The word can is not the same as the word must. It gives people choices. Of course, government agencies should avoid discrimination and have a don't ask, don't tell policy in regards to dealing with homosexual relations. People should not be asked about their sexual orientation within government agencies.
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:32 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Picairn wrote:Democracy has prevailed.


"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%."-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it has and that is not always a good thing.

In this case it is. Also, kinda ironic coming from someone who denied rights to hundreds of slaves.

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

Qanon is now crying. Biden has been sworn in and no arrests made.


Atheris wrote:
The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:
It's actually CTV news and Citytv news, Canadian news networks posting on youtube that have maga hat comments copeing.

The latest comment is just "COPE TRUMPERS COPE TRUMPERS COPE TRUMPERS" over and over. What a time to be alive.



Ah, that is good.

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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

What is the music in the background?

Edit: just after the applause.
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Postby The Black Forrest » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Picairn wrote:Democracy has prevailed.


"Democracy is 51% of the people taking away the rights of the other 49%."-Thomas Jefferson

Yes, it has and that is not always a good thing.


Too bad Jefferson never said that.
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:33 am

San Lumen wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
IIRC, the oath is supposed to be done before noon, because it has to be finished at the point at which he becomes President.

Not true. An oath is not required to become president. The inauguration ran late in 2008 and Obama become president at noon.


Dude. Article II, Section 8:

Before he enters the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."
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Postby Cordel One » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

Picairn wrote:Democracy has prevailed.

Now you can go back to brunch an ignore the larger systemic issues that lead to Trump's rise to power until it blows up in your face again :hug:

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Postby Kowani » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

-Astoria- wrote:What is the music in the background?

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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Atheris wrote:Trump's last policy changes as President, all of which are anti-LGBT+.



The word can is not the same as the word must. It gives people choices. Of course, government agencies should avoid discrimination and have a don't ask, don't tell policy in regards to dealing with homosexual relations. People should not be asked about their sexual orientation within government agencies.


The option shouldn't exist. If you are a homeless shelter, you take in the homeless regardless of there sexual prefrences.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

-Astoria- wrote:What is the music in the background?

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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

Kowani wrote:
-Astoria- wrote:What is the music in the background?

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I'm listening...
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Postby Vassenor » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:34 am

Atheris wrote:Trump's last policy changes as President, all of which are anti-LGBT+.



Any word from the Log Cabin Republicans?
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:35 am

Yeah, see Peacock? When they're milling about and waving and playing Stars and Stripes Forever...THAT'S when you blovate about your feelings about the speech, not when that badass poetry reading was happening you unbelievable asses...

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Postby Gravlen » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:So the possibility of dead people voting is not a concern in a nation that is supposed to be the world's best? You don't think the USA should have elections where this does not happen even though it is 2020 and we should be more advanced by now? I guess it is fine as long as it favors the democrat party.

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Postby San Lumen » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

A-Series-Of-Tubes wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Not true. An oath is not required to become president. The inauguration ran late in 2008 and Obama become president at noon.


Dude. Article II, Section 8:

Before he enters the Execution of his Office, he shall take the following Oath or Affirmation:—"I do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will faithfully execute the Office of President of the United States, and will to the best of my Ability, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States."

Yes but Obama became President at noon even though the oath hasn’t yet been given.

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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

So, now heres the little game; who was the designated survivor?
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Postby A-Series-Of-Tubes » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:36 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:Qanon is now crying. Biden has been sworn in and no arrests made.


I imagine there's some recrimination going on. "Spacemarine, you swore by Q himself you would die before letting Biden become President. And you didn't even get arrested!!"
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