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Postby Andsed » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 am

It’s finally over. We no longer have to give a shit about Trump.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Esalia wrote:A presidential speech that doesn't aim to divide people, to rile people up, or to inflate their own ego. Nice.

There was a bit of a dig at the beginning.


I must have missed it.
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Postby Nejii » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 am

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Neutraligon wrote:Yep.

I heard he's planning to make a large number of reversals on Trump's most divisive policies in his first days in office.

Which sounds like a fitting conclusion to Trump's presidency.


He’ll be spending the afternoon stamping executive actions I believe.
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Postby Major-Tom » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 am

Alright Joe, bring it home, man.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:01 am

Andsed wrote:It’s finally over. We no longer have to give a shit about Trump.

Who?
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Cannot think of a name wrote:Lincoln in the afterlife:"Fuck man, there have been 45 other presidents. One of these days you guys could invoke someone else. Bringing me up hasn't stopped you from trying to eat each other. Try something else."

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Reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated.
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The white gloves. I think that must be a simplified High Visibility form of sign language, or else US Sign is very different.


The sign languages of different English-speaking (and more general) countries are very different.
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Postby Celritannia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

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Cannot think of a name wrote:Lincoln in the afterlife:"Fuck man, there have been 45 other presidents. One of these days you guys could invoke someone else. Bringing me up hasn't stopped you from trying to eat each other. Try something else."

i'm sure he gets celestial royalties


Still not as much as George Washington.

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Postby Istoreya » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

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Picairn wrote:I hope you have good reasons for defending and trying to protect the anti-Chinese racism that stemmed from calling it the China virus.


I included the reasons. You don't think China posts negative news about the USA in an effort to make themselves look good? How is it racist? China is a country just like Lyme is a city in Connecticut. If the virus was from the USA and Europeans called it the USA Virus, would that also be racist?

I also said I favor focusing on Wuhan because China is huge. I doubt this will be the last virus that comes from the huge nation and heavily populated nation of China.

Or perhaps, instead of calling the virus by a name that encourages racism towards Asians, we call it by the name it already has???

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Postby Picairn » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

Neutraligon wrote:Reject the culture in which facts themselves are manipulated.

Reject the culture in which facts are dismissed as mere opinions.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

Nejii wrote:
The Free Joy State wrote:I heard he's planning to make a large number of reversals on Trump's most divisive policies in his first days in office.

Which sounds like a fitting conclusion to Trump's presidency.


He’ll be spending the afternoon stamping executive actions I believe.

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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:02 am

Pretty good speech so far in all honesty.
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Postby The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:03 am

It is time for unity. Time for peace.

Time to fix the United States.

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Postby -Astoria- » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:03 am

Celritannia wrote:
Kowani wrote:i'm sure he gets celestial royalties


Still not as much as George Washington.

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Postby Atheris » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:03 am

Istoreya wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
I included the reasons. You don't think China posts negative news about the USA in an effort to make themselves look good? How is it racist? China is a country just like Lyme is a city in Connecticut. If the virus was from the USA and Europeans called it the USA Virus, would that also be racist?

I also said I favor focusing on Wuhan because China is huge. I doubt this will be the last virus that comes from the huge nation and heavily populated nation of China.

Or perhaps, instead of calling the virus by a name that encourages racism towards Asians, we call it by the name it already has???

Plus, "Wuhan" and "virus" sound weird together.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:03 am

Cannot think of a name wrote:Lincoln in the afterlife:"Fuck man, there have been 45 other presidents. One of these days you guys could invoke someone else. Bringing me up hasn't stopped you from trying to eat each other. Try something else."

Lincoln would be disappointed that our politicians care about their parties more than the nation
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Postby Chan Island » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 am

You know, I didn't like Biden but watching this speech, I feel I owe him a bit of a begrudging nod. Nice, feelgood speech.

Either that or holy hells had a forgotten what a decent presidents speech was like.
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Postby Picairn » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:I included the reasons. You don't think China posts negative news about the USA in an effort to make themselves look good? How is it racist? China is a country just like Lyme is a city in Connecticut. If the virus was from the USA and Europeans called it the USA Virus, would that also be racist?

I also said I favor focusing on Wuhan because China is huge. I doubt this will be the last virus that comes from the huge nation and heavily populated nation of China.

The term is racist because it creates racial stigma towards Chinese and even other Asian people. I'm against naming virus by geography on principle, so I would oppose the term "USA virus" too.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 am

The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp wrote:It is time for unity. Time for peace.

Time to fix the United States.

Canada stands ready to help rebuild America.

Bring poutine.
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Postby Esalia » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:04 am

A call for unity is pretty refreshing after four years of division.

Not gonna fix it all in one speech, but hey, it's a start.
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Postby Giovenith » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:05 am

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Page wrote:I wonder if he negotiated with his advisers over his farewell speech. "If I don't talk about the election being stolen, you have to let me say China virus!"


I hope you have good reasons for defending and trying to protect the PRC. I prefer calling it the Wuhan Virus because China is too large and many believe it originated in the city of Wuhan. Are leftists also angry we say 'Lyme Disease' (after all, Connecticut is a blue state)?

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Jan 20, 2021 10:05 am

Chan Island wrote:You know, I didn't like Biden but watching this speech, I feel I owe him a bit of a begrudging nod. Nice, feelgood speech.

Either that or holy hells had a forgotten what a decent presidents speech was like.

A little from column a...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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