American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Agarntrop]

You want to run nazi-inspired, authoritarian labour camps.

Your beliefs in every sphere align with paleoconservatism as opposed to libertarianism

Are you saying that multicultural Singapore, with an HDI higher than the USA and better economic freedom rankings and lower corruption rankings, is a Nazi nation because they cane people?

2020 Index of Economic Freedom – Singapore tops list

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/2020- ... 00413.html

Note: I agree it is too authoritarian BUT their idea to cane people is fine.

You are an extremely authoritarian right-winger, a lot of your ideas like that are protofascist.

You also have right-wing pro-state control socisl views which are unlibertarian

[Nakena]

So the defence of the 6th comes down to..

a. Trump didn't personally lead the charge
b. They weren't fascists

Brilliant.

Who exactly claimed that?

[Comerciante]

It shows how people are fine with taking away basic rights from others until their own rights are taken away. That is why I defended Ozzie Guillen's praise for Fidel Castro even though I dislike Fidel Castro. Leftist speech should be protected as well and so should the right to walk more than 3 miles from your house or cross state borders in Australia. Who knows what activities will be banned tomorrow if walking a few miles from home is banned today?

Sure, in no way are these temporary measures to halt a pandemic that has killed more than 2M people worldwide. An American is dying every 30 seconds from this. Your callous approach to these deaths is quite remarkable.

He has stated it to be God's plan (or the Chinese) for people to die from this pandemic.

[Bombadil]

So the defence of the 6th comes down to..

a. Trump didn't personally lead the charge
b. They weren't fascists

Brilliant.

Who exactly claimed that?

It's basically the defence I'm seeing, the argument over whether the people who stormed the Capitol were fascists or not, and the argument that Trump wasn't responsible because he didn't take part.

[Freiheit Reich]

It happened in red China during Mao's era. It is ironic that today in China, many parents WANT their kids to learn the piano and violin. Mao must be spinning in his grave at the thought.

Once banned, classical music finds an unlikely future in China

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wo ... e14881218/

book censorship in China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_cens ... Mao_Zedong

Strange, I thought this was the American politics thread, not the China thread, so don't see what relevance it has here, unless of course you are hilariously suggesting that it would happen in America; in which case, just...lol.

Yes, America can also quickly lose freedoms because many people don't value them enough. America had McCarthyism and the Red Scare in the 1950's. You forget about how 9/11 scared Americans into getting the Patriot Act and the domino theory caused American men to be drafted to fight and die in a nation halfway across the world that many Americans had probably never heard of just a few years before.

[Picairn]

He has stated it to be God's plan (or the Chinese) for people to die from this pandemic.

I'm convinced that God is a murderous sadistic psychopath, if he exists.

[New haven america]

He has stated it to be God's plan (or the Chinese) for people to die from this pandemic.

I'm convinced that God is a murderous sadistic psychopath, if he exists.

Reagan said that HIV/AIDS was God's punishment for allowing gays to exist openly in society. (So much so that he forced the CDC to ignore it)

And then it became a worldwide pandemic and health issue.

[Omniabstracta]

Strange, I thought this was the American politics thread, not the China thread, so don't see what relevance it has here, unless of course you are hilariously suggesting that it would happen in America; in which case, just...lol.

Yes, America can also quickly lose freedoms because many people don't value them enough. America had McCarthyism and the Red Scare in the 1950's. You forget about how 9/11 scared Americans into getting the Patriot Act and the domino theory caused American men to be drafted to fight and die in a nation halfway across the world that many Americans had probably never heard of just a few years before.

And yet this pointless fearmongering about everything being a stepping stone to communist authoritarianism that you insist upon doing is the exact same thing that gave rise to McCarthyism and the Second Red Scare back then. Either you don’t realize this and are ignorant of the history, or you do and just don’t care.

[Freiheit Reich]

Are you saying that multicultural Singapore, with an HDI higher than the USA and better economic freedom rankings and lower corruption rankings, is a Nazi nation because they cane people?

2020 Index of Economic Freedom – Singapore tops list

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/2020- ... 00413.html

Note: I agree it is too authoritarian BUT their idea to cane people is fine.

Another strawman. Seriously, give it up.

Comparing my prisons to Nazi concentration camps is ridiculous. Prisons with labor requirements and caning existed well before Hitler was even born. I even suggested they have recreation facilities (but no internet or TV) so they can play board games, read, and play volleyball and basketball in their spare time. Most prisoners are not monsters and should be treated fairly.

I think you saw this movie and think I want prisons to be this harsh which is not true:

I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (1932)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023042/

[Celritannia]

You want to run nazi-inspired, authoritarian labour camps.

Your beliefs in every sphere align with paleoconservatism as opposed to libertarianism

Are you saying that multicultural Singapore, with an HDI higher than the USA and better economic freedom rankings and lower corruption rankings, is a Nazi nation because they cane people?

2020 Index of Economic Freedom – Singapore tops list

https://sg.finance.yahoo.com/news/2020- ... 00413.html

Note: I agree it is too authoritarian BUT their idea to cane people is fine.

I guess you forgot they are also culturally different in their application of corporal punishment.
Luck at most of East Asia, and even the Sub-Continent.

Is it right? No.
But should we follow their traditions?
FUCK NO!

[Kowani]

Trudeau will fight for the Keystone XL Pipeline


being to the right of Joe Biden -_-

[Celritannia]

This has nothing to do with anything.

It shows how people are fine with taking away basic rights from others until their own rights are taken away. That is why I defended Ozzie Guillen's praise for Fidel Castro even though I dislike Fidel Castro. Leftist speech should be protected as well and so should the right to walk more than 3 miles from your house or cross state borders in Australia. Who knows what activities will be banned tomorrow if walking a few miles from home is banned today?

You are applying a specific situation and neglecting the many reasons on how the Nazi's arose to power with a modern situation where the same principles and events have not occurred.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

Trudeau will fight for the Keystone XL Pipeline


being to the right of Joe Biden -_-

Trudeau? Huh.

[Shrillland]

Another strawman. Seriously, give it up.

Comparing my prisons to Nazi concentration camps is ridiculous. Prisons with labor requirements and caning existed well before Hitler was even born. I even suggested they have recreation facilities (but no internet or TV) so they can play board games, read, and play volleyball and basketball in their spare time. Most prisoners are not monsters and should be treated fairly.

I think you saw this movie and think I want prisons to be this harsh which is not true:

I Am a Fugitive from a Chain Gang (1932)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0023042/

There is a constitution, FR, and the constitution explicitly forbids cruel and unusual punishment, of which corporal punishment is considered.

[Shrillland]

Trudeau will fight for the Keystone XL Pipeline


being to the right of Joe Biden -_-

Trudeau? Huh.

Not unusual, it's Canada that wanted it in the first place since it's the only way they can make any significant profit off of the oil sands.

[Zurkerx]

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: A Flashback Through Four Turbulent Years of Donald Trump

I like how BBC summarized all of this. Makes note of his accomplishments but also shows how he overshadowed them and tarnished his legacy.

[Comerciante]

Strange, I thought this was the American politics thread, not the China thread, so don't see what relevance it has here, unless of course you are hilariously suggesting that it would happen in America; in which case, just...lol.

Yes, America can also quickly lose freedoms because many people don't value them enough. America had McCarthyism and the Red Scare in the 1950's. You forget about how 9/11 scared Americans into getting the Patriot Act and the domino theory caused American men to be drafted to fight and die in a nation halfway across the world that many Americans had probably never heard of just a few years before.

You cannot be shilling for freedom while also shilling for labor camps and state beatings.

Singapore is an authoritarian state, that limits the freedom of press, freedom of speech, requires permits for public gatherings of greater than 5, has a problem with sex trafficking, and more.

Your constant harping on caning has already fallen apart if you bothered to do more than a cursory glance of google.

Are you choosing to remain willfully ignorant or something?

[Kowani]

It's official: Pence isn't coming to Trump's send-off

[Freiheit Reich]

Sure, in no way are these temporary measures to halt a pandemic that has killed more than 2M people worldwide. An American is dying every 30 seconds from this. Your callous approach to these deaths is quite remarkable.

He has stated it to be God's plan (or the Chinese) for people to die from this pandemic.

Who created viruses that kill millions? Why does malaria, smallpox, typhoid, HIV, COVID-19, hepatitus, cholera, and diptheria exist? Who created these evils? If you believe in God, you probably believe he created them as a way to ensure humans don't have it too easy.

I believe God created most diseases. He could also stop starvation and droughts and floods which kill many but chooses not to help.

Why is it weird to blame God for the virus deaths if he created it? Also, even if he did not create it, he could probably stop the deaths from happening if he chose to. People blame Trump but why aren't religious people questioning God's role in this? You might say Trump did not stop the virus but do you think he created it?

If you say China and God did not create the virus, then who created it? This is a serious question.

[Shrillland]

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Well, at least he's willing to accept it if no one else.

[Bombadil]

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: A Flashback Through Four Turbulent Years of Donald Trump

I like how BBC summarized all of this. Makes note of his accomplishments but also shows how he overshadowed them and tarnished his legacy.

Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un are basically the same shape, it's like russian dolls.

[Celritannia]

He has stated it to be God's plan (or the Chinese) for people to die from this pandemic.

Who created viruses that kill millions? Why does malaria, smallpox, typhoid, HIV, COVID-19, hepatitus, cholera, and diptheria exist? Who created these evils? If you believe in God, you probably believe he created them as a way to ensure humans don't have it too easy.

I believe God created most diseases. He could also stop starvation and droughts and floods which kill many but chooses not to help.

Why is it weird to blame God for the virus deaths if he created it? Also, even if he did not create it, he could probably stop the deaths from happening if he chose to. People blame Trump but why aren't religious people questioning God's role in this? You might say Trump did not stop the virus but do you think he created it?

If you say China and God did not create the virus, then who created it? This is a serious question.

Genetic mutations and microbiological evolution.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: A Flashback Through Four Turbulent Years of Donald Trump

I like how BBC summarized all of this. Makes note of his accomplishments but also shows how he overshadowed them and tarnished his legacy.

Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un are basically the same shape, it's like russian dolls.

Somewhat unrelated but Kim Jong Un’s weight gain and bad haircut are done on purpose to make himself look more like Kim Il Sung, who’s basically God in North Korea

[The New California Republic]

Strange, I thought this was the American politics thread, not the China thread, so don't see what relevance it has here, unless of course you are hilariously suggesting that it would happen in America; in which case, just...lol.

Yes, America can also quickly lose freedoms because many people don't value them enough. America had McCarthyism and the Red Scare in the 1950's. You forget about how 9/11 scared Americans into getting the Patriot Act and the domino theory caused American men to be drafted to fight and die in a nation halfway across the world that many Americans had probably never heard of just a few years before.

Yet you want to introduce things like corporal punishment. I don't know who you are trying to kid, but you can't have your cake and eat it. Seriously, if trying to hold those two contradictory beliefs isn't putting up tons of red flags for you then you sorely need to analyse it a bit more closely.

[Bombadil]

Donald Trump and Kim Jong Un are basically the same shape, it's like russian dolls.

Somewhat unrelated but Kim Jong Un’s weight gain and bad haircut are done on purpose to make himself look more like Kim Il Sung, who’s basically God in North Korea

In China I used to make people nervously laugh by mimicking the style in which government members speak, it's a particularly halting style of asking a question and then answering it, but technically it was slightly subversive.

It is a kind of way to show loyalty to mimic founders of totalitarian states from hairstyle to clothing to speech.