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Cordel One
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:36 pm

Gravlen wrote:
Cordel One wrote:Okay, so these rioters

-made no effort to conceal their faces (their predecessors wore hoods for a reason)
-brought tracking devices with them
-took and posed for pictures
-tried to besiege congress in a building that's designed to be escaped from
-wouldn't achieve much by stopping Congress as certification is ceremonial
-pointlessly wandered around the capitol for hours until state forces arrived

...and this was premeditated. All those people and not one brain cell between them.

Keep in mind that these were members of the Special forces of the 101st Keyboard Brigade. I'm sure several of them have written strategic fan fiction, envisioning how it would all play out if they just got through the doors to the Capitol, and thought they would be greeted as liberators, and a grateful nation would hail them as Heroes after Pence decided to declare the election overturned.

They were the storm. It was supposed to be glorious, like Q said it would be. Now they're on the no-fly list and we're all laughing at them.

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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

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Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Uh...they were overwhelmed by the people STORMING THE CAPITOL. Not saying that they did everything we could, but that's not a good reason to get rid of law enforcement.

And no rubber bullets were fired, only 5 people died in total, almost no tear gas was used, and there were a whole lot less of them than there were during BLM protests that summer.

Maybe there were more people protesting over the summer...and, no, no one deserved to die. But the autonomous zones were dumb AF, and a 16-year-old boy DIED from a gunshot wound because emergency services couldn't get to him in time...it was like Lord of the Flies, but voluntary and petulant.
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Postby Comerciante » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Weimar Republic also had elections and look what happened in 1933. Don't feel so secure because you elect representatives. I am sure many Germans in the 1920's also didn't think they would live under a fascist dictatorship within a few years.

https://www.history.com/topics/germany/weimar-republic


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Postby Bombadil » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
Celritannia wrote:

Let's see.
Australia and New Zealand are Constitutional Monarchies and Representative Democracies in which their legislatures are elected.


The Weimar Republic also had elections and look what happened in 1933. Don't feel so secure because you elect representatives. I am sure many Germans in the 1920's also didn't think they would live under a fascist dictatorship within a few years.

https://www.history.com/topics/germany/weimar-republic


Well yes, when rich and powerful people think their interests are served by enabling a deceitful, lying demagogue then that tends to blow up in their face. You think McConnell and his ilk would remember history but seems not.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Uh...they were overwhelmed by the people STORMING THE CAPITOL. Not saying that they did everything we could, but that's not a good reason to get rid of law enforcement.

And no rubber bullets were fired, only 5 people died in total, almost no tear gas was used, and there were a whole lot less of them than there were during BLM protests that summer.


Turns out that the gravy seals had heart issues. Who could have known?

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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Cordel One » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:37 pm

Agarntrop wrote:
Cordel One wrote:And no rubber bullets were fired, only 5 people died in total, almost no tear gas was used, and there were a whole lot less of them than there were during BLM protests that summer.

That's because they were deliberately understaffed.

And because friendly fire was off.

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:38 pm

Celritannia wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:
The Weimar Republic also had elections and look what happened in 1933. Don't feel so secure because you elect representatives. I am sure many Germans in the 1920's also didn't think they would live under a fascist dictatorship within a few years.

https://www.history.com/topics/germany/weimar-republic


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Are you offering me some straw?

To be fair a scarecrow that gives out straw wouldn't last very long, a bit like a person donating all their organs when they are still alive.
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Postby Farnhamia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:39 pm

Comerciante wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Hello Mr. Scarecrow.
Are you offering me some straw?

You can F*CK RIGHT OFF.

I CALLED DIBS. AS SOON AS I CAN FIX THE GOALPOST TO KEEP THE COWS IN THAT STRAW IS MINE!

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Postby Agarntrop » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:39 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Agarntrop wrote:That's because they were deliberately understaffed.

And because friendly fire was off.

So you support state forces mowing down crowds when it suits you? Not very anarchistic of you.
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:39 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:

Cordel thinks being a soldier makes you a ultranationalist fascist or something. He's one of those anarcho-types.

More of a Paris Communist than an anarcho-type these days, but still very against the United States.


That's a slight improvement. Not much, but kudos all the same.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:39 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Celritannia wrote:
Hello Mr. Scarecrow.
Are you offering me some straw?

To be fair a scarecrow that gives out straw wouldn't last very long, a bit like a person donating all their organs when they are still alive.


(Psst, it's a reference to his dying argument. It's a response with layers)

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Postby Comerciante » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Comerciante wrote:You can F*CK RIGHT OFF.

I CALLED DIBS. AS SOON AS I CAN FIX THE GOALPOST TO KEEP THE COWS IN THAT STRAW IS MINE!

Ahem. Just a word to the wise, telling people to "fuck right off" or some such thing can get you warned. I see your jest but others might not.

Sorry... I'll tone it down.
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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Celritannia wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:To be fair a scarecrow that gives out straw wouldn't last very long, a bit like a person donating all their organs when they are still alive.


(Psst, it's a reference to his dying argument. It's a response with layers)

Yes I was just being facetious.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Comerciante wrote:You can F*CK RIGHT OFF.

I CALLED DIBS. AS SOON AS I CAN FIX THE GOALPOST TO KEEP THE COWS IN THAT STRAW IS MINE!

Ahem. Just a word to the wise, telling people to "fuck right off" or some such thing can get you warned. I see your jest but others might not.


I saw the jest, it made me chuckle.
I did have a comeback, but hay hoe :P

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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Gravlen wrote:Keep in mind that these were members of the Special forces of the 101st Keyboard Brigade. I'm sure several of them have written strategic fan fiction, envisioning how it would all play out if they just got through the doors to the Capitol, and thought they would be greeted as liberators, and a grateful nation would hail them as Heroes after Pence decided to declare the election overturned.

They were the storm. It was supposed to be glorious, like Q said it would be. Now they're on the no-fly list and we're all laughing at them.


Sounds pretty glorious to me but w/e.
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:40 pm

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:
Cordel One wrote:And no rubber bullets were fired, only 5 people died in total, almost no tear gas was used, and there were a whole lot less of them than there were during BLM protests that summer.

They were actually about the same size.

Maybe there were more people protesting over the summer...and, no, no one deserved to die. But the autonomous zones were dumb AF, and a 16-year-old boy DIED from a gunshot wound because emergency services couldn't get to him in time...it was like Lord of the Flies, but voluntary and petulant.

The autonomous zones were riots, of course they were chaotic.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:41 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Cordel One wrote:And no rubber bullets were fired, only 5 people died in total, almost no tear gas was used, and there were a whole lot less of them than there were during BLM protests that summer.


Turns out that the gravy seals had heart issues. Who could have known?

I'm a mixed of disappointed and relieved that the 'tazed himself in the nuts until he died' thing was fake.
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Postby Nakena » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:41 pm

The only way QAnon can deliever is if it's followers make it real. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The Capitol Storm may have been the peak of that but who knows.

17 hours left.
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Postby Western Fardelshufflestein » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:41 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Turns out that the gravy seals had heart issues. Who could have known?

I'm a mixed of disappointed and relieved that the 'tazed himself in the nuts until he died' thing was fake.

The...what?
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Postby Cordel One » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:41 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Cordel One wrote:More of a Paris Communist than an anarcho-type these days, but still very against the United States.


That's a slight improvement. Not much, but kudos all the same.

Maybe someday I'll go up more and embrace the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism.

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Postby Freiheit Reich » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:42 pm

The New California Republic wrote:
Freiheit Reich wrote:You might say, 'I have nothing to fear as I have nothing to hide' until one day you are punished for playing classical music or reading the classical literature.

Lol why would that ever be a thing? What a really weird example that you chose. Really weird.


It happened in red China during Mao's era. It is ironic that today in China, many parents WANT their kids to learn the piano and violin. Mao must be spinning in his grave at the thought.

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Postby Cordel One » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:42 pm

Nakena wrote:The only way QAnon can deliever is if it's followers make it real. Like a self-fulfilling prophecy.

The Capitol Storm may have been the peak of that but who knows.

17 hours left.

What if the real Storm was the friends we made along the way?

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Postby The New California Republic » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:43 pm

Cordel One wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
That's a slight improvement. Not much, but kudos all the same.

Maybe someday I'll go up more and embrace the immortal science of Marxism-Leninism.

Tbh it's better to be Communard than Bolshie.
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Postby Celritannia » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:43 pm

Freiheit Reich wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Lol why would that ever be a thing? What a really weird example that you chose. Really weird.


It happened in red China during Mao's era. It is ironic that today in China, many parents WANT their kids to learn the piano and violin. Mao must be spinning in his grave at the thought.

Once banned, classical music finds an unlikely future in China

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/wo ... e14881218/

book censorship in China

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Book_cens ... Mao_Zedong


This has nothing to do with anything.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Tue Jan 19, 2021 4:43 pm

Cannot think of a name wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
Turns out that the gravy seals had heart issues. Who could have known?

I'm a mixed of disappointed and relieved that the 'tazed himself in the nuts until he died' thing was fake.


That it was fake is only what his wife said. We can believe what we like. Fake News and all that.....

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