American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Shrillland]

Because he's a nationalist and an idiot.

To be fair, many people also seem to act like the USA and UK and Brazil are the pretty much the only nations dealing with a high amount of Covid-19 deaths because they dislike Mr. Trump and Mr. Johnson and Mr. Bolsonaro. I hear Trump (and occasionally Johnson and Bolsonaro ) blamed but very rarely the leaders of Italy, France, Belgium, Peru, or Mexico. We also rarely hear democratic governors blamed for virus cases in their own states even when they have very high per-capita death rates (ex. Cuomo, Lamont, Murphy).

If Trump has to take 98% of the blame for the virus, he should get 98% of the credit for vaccines created under his time as president (even if developed in a foreign country).

Both giving him so much blame and credit are ridiculous. He is not God (even if he might possibly think of himself as a god----just a joke-don't get offended).

Rarely get blamed? Newsom's about to be recalled over it, and a few other reasons.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

The PRC has an excellent high-speed rail system, a low official murder rate, low drug addiction, many museums there are free or very cheap, good bus and subway systems in many large cities, political unity, a high literacy rate, and excellent access to very cheap shared bikes in most large and medium-sized cities. It also has been doing well in regards to the pandemic.

Does this make the PRC a top notch place to live? You can do well in many areas and still not be a great place to live. Look at how many Chinese people want to move to the USA and have babies born in the USA (so the babies can be US citizens). These women also tend NOT to be poor meaning they are wealthy in China and STILL unhappy.

Just because Australia and NZ have few cases doesn't change the fact they behaved like tyrannical nations with extremely strict laws. Tyranny gets results but it is still tyranny.

Literally no one believes the COVID numbers the PRC is churning out. I'd question any statistic that they themselves publish, frankly. You probably should too.

Loki is more trustworthy than the CCP.

[Nejii]

It should not. Because the 1960’s Democratic Party and its basis hadn’t been rooted into by socialism and relatable philosophies like the modern Democratic Party is. Name one popular elected official in the 1960’s that was a very vocal communist or socialist.

And here we are today with Bernie Sanders and AOC for example.

AOC is not a socialist, and Bernie is at best a social democrat. Neither of them are socialist.

They both identify as democratic socialists, which is a leftist ideology and, like it or not, has kinship with socialism. It mainly rejects the authoritarianism of Marxism which sets it apart in a way, but it shares socialist policies. And I can guarantee you it wouldn’t have been catchy politically in the 1960’s, even with “democratic” stuck on the label.

Which to me highlights my point that the modern Democratic Party is more accepting of socialism and socialism “relatives” than it would have been in the 60’s.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Capitol rioter arrested after sending a selfie to his girlfriend's brother- who just happened to be a federal agent

This is why it is bad to have a relative work as an agent.

We get it. You don't like criminals being held accountable for their actions.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

And yet Australia and New Zealand have been doing well.
Curious.

The PRC has an excellent high-speed rail system, a low official murder rate, low drug addiction, many museums there are free or very cheap, good bus and subway systems in many large cities, political unity, a high literacy rate, and excellent access to very cheap shared bikes in most large and medium-sized cities. It also has been doing well in regards to the pandemic.

Does this make the PRC a top notch place to live? You can do well in many areas and still not be a great place to live. Look at how many Chinese people want to move to the USA and have babies born in the USA (so the babies can be US citizens). These women also tend NOT to be poor meaning they are wealthy in China and STILL unhappy.

Just because Australia and NZ have few cases doesn't change the fact they behaved like tyrannical nations with extremely strict laws. Tyranny gets results but it is still tyranny.

I’m not seeing what’s so bad about authoritarian measures, statistics show that they worked the best in stoping the spread of covornavirus. Less people dead = good doesn’t it?

[Cordel One]

Capitol rioter arrested after sending a selfie to his girlfriend's brother- who just happened to be a federal agent

Okay, so these rioters

-made no effort to conceal their faces (their predecessors wore hoods for a reason)
-brought tracking devices with them
-took and posed for pictures
-tried to besiege congress in a building that's designed to be escaped from
-wouldn't achieve much by stopping Congress as certification is ceremonial
-pointlessly wandered around the capitol for hours until state forces arrived

...and this was premeditated. All those people and not one brain cell between them.

[Valrifell]

AOC is not a socialist, and Bernie is at best a social democrat. Neither of them are socialist.

They both identify as democratic socialists, which is a leftist ideology and, like it or not, has kinship with socialism. It mainly rejects the authoritarianism of Marxism which sets it apart in a way, but it shares socialist policies. And I can guarantee you it wouldn’t have been catchy politically in the 1960’s, even with “democratic” stuck on the label.

Which to me highlights my point that the modern Democratic Party is more accepting of socialism and socialism “relatives” than it would have been in the 60’s.

This is like saying society is more accepting of black people than they were in the 60s. Except worse because the policies our modern socialists advocate for were either totally or partially implemented back then, in the wake of the GI BIll of Rights and the New Deal.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Because he's a nationalist and an idiot.

To be fair, many people also seem to act like the USA and UK and Brazil are the pretty much the only nations dealing with a high amount of Covid-19 deaths because they dislike Mr. Trump and Mr. Johnson and Mr. Bolsonaro. I hear Trump (and occasionally Johnson and Bolsonaro ) blamed but very rarely the leaders of Italy, France, Belgium, Peru, or Mexico. We also rarely hear democratic governors blamed for virus cases in their own states even when they have very high per-capita death rates (ex. Cuomo, Lamont, Murphy).

If Trump has to take 98% of the blame for the virus, he should get 98% of the credit for vaccines created under his time as president (even if developed in a foreign country).

Both giving him so much blame and credit are ridiculous. He is not God (even if he might possibly think of himself as a god----just a joke-don't get offended).

Idk if you were here but this thread had a multiple page Cuomo hate circlejerk a while back

[Celritannia]

AOC is not a socialist, and Bernie is at best a social democrat. Neither of them are socialist.

They both identify as democratic socialists, which is a leftist ideology and, like it or not, has kinship with socialism. It mainly rejects the authoritarianism of Marxism which sets it apart in a way, but it shares socialist policies. And I can guarantee you it wouldn’t have been catchy politically in the 1960’s, even with “democratic” stuck on the label.

Which to me highlights my point that the modern Democratic Party is more accepting of socialism and socialism “relatives” than it would have been in the 60’s.

And North Korea is named the Democratic People's Republic of North Korea.
Is it a democratic republic for the people of North Korea?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

The PRC has an excellent high-speed rail system, a low official murder rate, low drug addiction, many museums there are free or very cheap, good bus and subway systems in many large cities, political unity, a high literacy rate, and excellent access to very cheap shared bikes in most large and medium-sized cities. It also has been doing well in regards to the pandemic.

Does this make the PRC a top notch place to live? You can do well in many areas and still not be a great place to live. Look at how many Chinese people want to move to the USA and have babies born in the USA (so the babies can be US citizens). These women also tend NOT to be poor meaning they are wealthy in China and STILL unhappy.

Just because Australia and NZ have few cases doesn't change the fact they behaved like tyrannical nations with extremely strict laws. Tyranny gets results but it is still tyranny.

I’m not seeing what’s so bad about authoritarian measures, statistics show that they worked the best in stoping the spread of covornavirus. Less people dead = good doesn’t it?

They're not authoritarian measures. They're an appropriate response to a global pandemic in order to save lives.

But he's a pseudolibertarian who probably thinks taxes are theft so it doesn't surprise me that he sees fascist tyranny in his soup.

[Kowani]

Jon Ossoff will be sworn in as a senator at 430pm tomorrow, on "a book of Hebrew scripture once owned by Rabbi Jacob Rothschild" of Atlanta

[Cordel One]

Capitol rioter arrested after sending a selfie to his girlfriend's brother- who just happened to be a federal agent

This is why it is bad to have a relative work as an agent.

It's disappointing to have relatives doing any sort of police/military work, but this dude deserved it.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

Capitol rioter arrested after sending a selfie to his girlfriend's brother- who just happened to be a federal agent

Okay, so these rioters

-made no effort to conceal their faces (their predecessors wore hoods for a reason)
-brought tracking devices with them
-took and posed for pictures
-tried to besiege congress in a building that's designed to be escaped from
-wouldn't achieve much by stopping Congress as certification is ceremonial
-pointlessly wandered around the capitol for hours until state forces arrived

...and this was premeditated. All those people and not one brain cell between them.

They probably assumed they would get off scratch-free like many of the blm rioters did

[San Lumen]

To be fair, many people also seem to act like the USA and UK and Brazil are the pretty much the only nations dealing with a high amount of Covid-19 deaths because they dislike Mr. Trump and Mr. Johnson and Mr. Bolsonaro. I hear Trump (and occasionally Johnson and Bolsonaro ) blamed but very rarely the leaders of Italy, France, Belgium, Peru, or Mexico. We also rarely hear democratic governors blamed for virus cases in their own states even when they have very high per-capita death rates (ex. Cuomo, Lamont, Murphy).

If Trump has to take 98% of the blame for the virus, he should get 98% of the credit for vaccines created under his time as president (even if developed in a foreign country).

Both giving him so much blame and credit are ridiculous. He is not God (even if he might possibly think of himself as a god----just a joke-don't get offended).

Rarely get blamed? Newsom's about to be recalled over it, and a few other reasons.

How likely is it he gets successfully recalled?

[Agarntrop]

AOC is not a socialist, and Bernie is at best a social democrat. Neither of them are socialist.

They both identify as democratic socialists, which is a leftist ideology and, like it or not, has kinship with socialism. It mainly rejects the authoritarianism of Marxism which sets it apart in a way, but it shares socialist policies. And I can guarantee you it wouldn’t have been catchy politically in the 1960’s, even with “democratic” stuck on the label.

Which to me highlights my point that the modern Democratic Party is more accepting of socialism and socialism “relatives” than it would have been in the 60’s.

What they call themselves mean jackshit in comparison to their policies.

Also daily reminder that in the 60s the top tax rate was 91%. We were a lot more left wing economically then.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Capitol rioter arrested after sending a selfie to his girlfriend's brother- who just happened to be a federal agent

Okay, so these rioters

-made no effort to conceal their faces (their predecessors wore hoods for a reason)
-brought tracking devices with them
-took and posed for pictures
-tried to besiege congress in a building that's designed to be escaped from
-wouldn't achieve much by stopping Congress as certification is ceremonial
-pointlessly wandered around the capitol for hours until state forces arrived

...and this was premeditated. All those people and not one brain cell between them.

Trumpism defined.

[Freiheit Reich]

And yet Australia and New Zealand have been doing well.
Curious.

no you don't understand they're literally communazi dictatorships destroying freedom and liberty and this is exactly what adolf stalin would do!!11

/s

You laugh but where do you draw the line when it comes to restricting freedoms? Installing cameras in homes would reduce domestic violence as well. Do you want to be constantly watched if it reduces crime rate? You might say, 'I have nothing to fear as I have nothing to hide' until one day you are punished for playing classical music or reading the classical literature.

[Western Fardelshufflestein]

This is why it is bad to have a relative work as an agent.

It's disappointing to have relatives doing any sort of police/military work, but this dude deserved it.

Why? Defending the nation is not a disappointing career path.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

This is why it is bad to have a relative work as an agent.

It's disappointing to have relatives doing any sort of police/military work, but this dude deserved it.

[Kowani]

Okay, so these rioters

-made no effort to conceal their faces (their predecessors wore hoods for a reason)
-brought tracking devices with them
-took and posed for pictures
-tried to besiege congress in a building that's designed to be escaped from
-wouldn't achieve much by stopping Congress as certification is ceremonial
-pointlessly wandered around the capitol for hours until state forces arrived

...and this was premeditated. All those people and not one brain cell between them.

They probably assumed they would get off scratch-free like many of the blm rioters did

Is this a joke

[Celritannia]

no you don't understand they're literally communazi dictatorships destroying freedom and liberty and this is exactly what adolf stalin would do!!11

/s

You laugh but where do you draw the line when it comes to restricting freedoms? Installing cameras in homes would reduce domestic violence as well. Do you want to be constantly watched if it reduces crime rate? You might say, 'I have nothing to fear as I have nothing to hide' until one day you are punished for playing classical music or reading the classical literature.

Yes...
Because making sure a virus does not spread rapidly and protecting your own citizens in a democratic country suddenly means INGSOC has taken over and you are now part of Oceania /s

[Cordel One]

It's disappointing to have relatives doing any sort of police/military work, but this dude deserved it.

Why? Defending the nation is not a disappointing career path.

They don't defend the nation, they defend (and attack for) capitol. I'm also not the biggest fan of the United States.

[The New California Republic]

You might say, 'I have nothing to fear as I have nothing to hide' until one day you are punished for playing classical music or reading the classical literature.

Lol why would that ever be a thing? What a really weird example that you chose. Really weird.

[Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana]

It's disappointing to have relatives doing any sort of police/military work, but this dude deserved it.

Why? Defending the nation is not a disappointing career path.

I mean, the poster in question did say they hate America

[Shrillland]

Rarely get blamed? Newsom's about to be recalled over it, and a few other reasons.

How likely is it he gets successfully recalled?

That there will be a recall vote this year, I have no doubt. As to him actually being tossed out...it depends on who runs. He has made a lot of enemies on both sides for a variety of reasons from Covid lockdowns to excessive taxation that even some Progressives have balked at.