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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:12 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Istoreya wrote:He didn't need to plan it to be responsible for it. Like I said, you might be able to understand that better if you knew what the Wannsee Conference was.

Those who have failed to learn the lessons of past atrocities...

Although, to be fully fair, I'm not American but I'd still not know what the Wannsee Conference was either if it wasn't for me stumbling across a movie about it by chance. It wasn't something that was covered in school.

Really? Interesting. What country are you from? I'm British and covered it. I'd be interested to know if it was a by-school thing if you're also British.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:13 am

Quote of the Day goes to Sen. John Kennedy (R-LA), to Neera Tanden: ""You called Senator Sanders everything but an ignorant slut."
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:15 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Istoreya wrote:He didn't need to plan it to be responsible for it. Like I said, you might be able to understand that better if you knew what the Wannsee Conference was.

He did not need to plan it to be responsible for it, lol I am having another lol attack. I don't know and don't care what the Wannsee Conference is.

Again, lets charge Democrat Maxine Watters for urging violence against Republicans. Lets charge Democrat Chuck Schumer for threatening US Supreme Court Justices and remove them from congress, I bet the biased, partisan Democrats wont.

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so guilty by association isn't a thing?

None of them incited violence.
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Postby Northern Socialist Council Republics » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:15 am

Istoreya wrote:Really? Interesting. What country are you from? I'm British and covered it. I'd be interested to know if it was a by-school thing if you're also British.

I went to a British-curriculum school for all of one year and I wasn't in the right year to cover the Second World War at all at the time, so I can't comment on whether your experience is exceptional or just British.

More than that would be getting quite off-topic. :p
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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:17 am

Northern Socialist Council Republics wrote:
Istoreya wrote:Really? Interesting. What country are you from? I'm British and covered it. I'd be interested to know if it was a by-school thing if you're also British.

I went to a British-curriculum school for all of one year and I wasn't in the right year to cover the Second World War at all at the time, so I can't comment on whether your experience is exceptional or just British.

More than that would be getting quite off-topic. :p

Very true :P
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:17 am

Impeachment Trial Day 2 begins, video here

Raskin's up
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Postby Shrillland » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:18 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Istoreya wrote:He didn't need to plan it to be responsible for it. Like I said, you might be able to understand that better if you knew what the Wannsee Conference was.

He did not need to plan it to be responsible for it, lol I am having another lol attack. I don't know and don't care what the Wannsee Conference is.

Again, lets charge Democrat Maxine Watters for urging violence against Republicans. Lets charge Democrat Chuck Schumer for threatening US Supreme Court Justices and remove them from congress, I bet the biased, partisan Democrats wont.

GMS.


You should care what it was, we live its legacy every day: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wannsee_Conference
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:19 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:He did not need to plan it to be responsible for it, lol I am having another lol attack. I don't know and don't care what the Wannsee Conference is.

Again, lets charge Democrat Maxine Watters for urging violence against Republicans. Lets charge Democrat Chuck Schumer for threatening US Supreme Court Justices and remove them from congress, I bet the biased, partisan Democrats wont.

GMS.


so guilty by association isn't a thing?
None of them incited violence.

So Republican President Trump did not incite violence either, :)

GMS.
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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:19 am

This Raskin cat is good at what he does.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:20 am

It is interesting to see that Republicans are basically saying that a president after nov 2 cannot be held accountable for any action he takes, so long as his part puts of the "trial."
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Istoreya
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:21 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
so guilty by association isn't a thing?
None of them incited violence.

So Republican President Trump did not incite violence either, :)

GMS.

Again, yes he did. You don't need to say the words "be violent" to encourage violence. Shrill gave you a handy Wikipedia link, go have a read.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:21 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
so guilty by association isn't a thing?
So Republican President Trump did not incite violence either, :)

GMS.
None of them incited violence.


Yes he did. Its beyond apparent you live in an alternate reality and refuse to acknowledge anything that disputes the narrative you've chosen to believe.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:24 am

Neutraligon wrote:It is interesting to see that Republicans are basically saying that a president after nov 2 cannot be held accountable for any action he takes, so long as his part puts of the "trial."

It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment conviction leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:24 am

invoking Scalia was a nice touch
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:25 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:It is interesting to see that Republicans are basically saying that a president after nov 2 cannot be held accountable for any action he takes, so long as his part puts of the "trial."

It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.


He was impeached while he was still president.
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:26 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:It is interesting to see that Republicans are basically saying that a president after nov 2 cannot be held accountable for any action he takes, so long as his part puts of the "trial."

It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment conviction leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.

The impeachment has already happened. They are deciding the consequences he should face now.
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Postby Neutraligon » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:26 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:It is interesting to see that Republicans are basically saying that a president after nov 2 cannot be held accountable for any action he takes, so long as his part puts of the "trial."

It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment conviction leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.

He was impeached while president. Although it is nice to know you agree with what I said, which was that according to Republicans a president cannot be held accountable so long as their party holds the trial off long enough.
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:27 am

Yes, Raskin
Abolitionism in the North has leagued itself with Radical Democracy, and so the Slave Power was forced to ally itself with the Money Power; that is the great fact of the age.




The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


Currently Rehabilitating: Martin Van Buren, Benjamin Harrison, and Woodrow Wilson
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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:29 am

oh, Neguese is up
i like him
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The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:29 am

Kowani wrote:oh, Neguese is up
i like him

so do I. Hes a fantastic orator and I think hes got a great political future ahead of him.
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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:30 am

San Lumen wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.


He was impeached while he was still president.

lol, The impeachment of any Person is biased, partisan and political, not fair and balanced seeking justice.

GMS.
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Postby Istoreya » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:31 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
He was impeached while he was still president.

lol, The impeachment of any Person is biased, partisan and political, not fair and balanced seeking justice.

GMS.

lol, Whatever your opinion of impeachment is doesn't suddenly mean Trump is un-double-impeached.

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Postby Kowani » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:32 am

"they predicted he would protect them"
smart tack
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The triumph of the Democracy is essential to the struggle of popular liberty


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Postby Greater Miami Shores » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:32 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Greater Miami Shores wrote:It all depends on word semantics, what Republicans are saying is you cant impeach President Trump because he is not conducting the office of the President. You cant impeach any President not conducting the office of the President. Since Impeachment conviction leads to removal of the Person from the office of the President. It makes logical sense.

GMS.

He was impeached while president. Although it is nice to know you agree with what I said, which was that according to Republicans a president cannot be held accountable so long as their party holds the trial off long enough.

Sorry, but I think you misunderstood what I said.

GMS.
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Postby San Lumen » Wed Feb 10, 2021 10:32 am

Greater Miami Shores wrote:
San Lumen wrote:
He was impeached while he was still president.

lol, The impeachment of any Person is biased, partisan and political, not fair and balanced seeking justice.

GMS.


what are you saying? No one should ever be impeached? several Governors have been successfully impeached and removed from office the most recent being Rod Blagojevich in Illinois. He was barred from ever running for office in the state again.
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