American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Cannot think of a name]

Domion sends Mike Lindell (the MyPillow guy) a cease & desist letter, which also orders him to "preserve and retain all documents relating to Dominion and your smear campaign against the company."

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My Pillow CEO responds, says "I want Dominion to put up their lawsuit because we have 100% evidence that China and other countries used their machines to steal the election."

Oh man...I want this to happen now. I mean, ultimately I don't like voting machines in general but at least auditable ones that have a paper trail provide physical evidence of a vote...all of this to say I'm not making heroes out of a voting machine company, but the idea of them embarrassing the fuck out of the fucking My Pillow guy, that all that 'evidence' they kept complaining about not being heard because it was dismissed as sixteen tons of horseshit, well, it'll get heard as sixteen tons of horseshit.

[Vapormancer]

I'm glad to see after decrying law enforcement as systemically racist, you immediately begin taking their opinions at face value.

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i don't know how you read that in my post, when it is quite clear I believe he is wrong, but congratulations?

No, I was referring to your blind trust in the FBI and "reports" from a system which you decry as actively institutionally racist. We had "reports" on WMDs too but it seems the American left has a very short memory.

[Xanthal]

McConnell and Schumer are nearing a power-sharing agreement to hash out how the divided chamber will operate, with Democrats in charge of setting the schedule but both parties likely to hold an equal number of seats on Senate committees

Mitch may be cynical- even craven- but he's also a pragmatist. He was willing to entertain Trump's nonsense when it was winning elections and installing conservative appointees; now that Trump has become a liability perhaps he'll be interested in looking for ways to make the government work again.

[San Lumen]

My Pillow CEO responds, says "I want Dominion to put up their lawsuit because we have 100% evidence that China and other countries used their machines to steal the election."

Oh man...I want this to happen now. I mean, ultimately I don't like voting machines in general but at least auditable ones that have a paper trail provide physical evidence of a vote...all of this to say I'm not making heroes out of a voting machine company, but the idea of them embarrassing the fuck out of the fucking My Pillow guy, that all that 'evidence' they kept complaining about not being heard because it was dismissed as sixteen tons of horseshit, well, it'll get heard as sixteen tons of horseshit.

I almost want to hope this guy gets nominated for Governor of Minnesota but after 2016 I don’t wish for things like that.

[Valrifell]

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i don't know how you read that in my post, when it is quite clear I believe he is wrong, but congratulations?

No, I was referring to your blind trust in the FBI and "reports" from a system which you decry as actively institutionally racist. We had "reports" on WMDs too but it seems the American left has a very short memory.

Kowani says the government is probably lying to us and you take that as evidence that Kowani is a government bootlicker.

[Nejii]

"True patriot" calls out ANTIFA for their shadow war and manipulation tactics while shilling for a coffee company. Oh, and for inciting and being the sole proprietors of the storming of the capitol.

Again, try not to get cancer, and enjoy the sour cringe sauce.

(PS-I post this nutcase just for your hilarious reactions NSG.)

[Vapormancer]

No, I was referring to your blind trust in the FBI and "reports" from a system which you decry as actively institutionally racist. We had "reports" on WMDs too but it seems the American left has a very short memory.

Kowani says the government is probably lying to us and you take that as evidence that Kowani is a government bootlicker.

Not at all. I said the FBI is likely lying as are the reports. I'm very grateful the DoD dumped them in the trash where they belong. Only you could make support of the shadowy intelligence types your very side decried a matter of not trusting the government. Truly a rhetorical gymnastic act which is very impressive!

[Vapormancer]

As an aside, it is always very wise to accuse your armed forces of ideological treason before you assume power. It is not at all paranoid or insane to assume the Secret Service might not like you either. I have no doubt Ivan is chuckling up a storm knowing we've such chickens in charge.

[San Lumen]

McConnell and Schumer are nearing a power-sharing agreement to hash out how the divided chamber will operate, with Democrats in charge of setting the schedule but both parties likely to hold an equal number of seats on Senate committees

Mitch may be cynical- even craven- but he's also a pragmatist. He was willing to entertain Trump's nonsense when it was winning elections and installing conservative appointees; now that Trump has become a liability perhaps he'll be interested in looking for ways to make the government work again.

Given the senate is tied McConnell had no choice but to reach a power sharing agreement.

[Nakena]

As an aside, it is always very wise to accuse your armed forces of ideological treason before you assume power. It is not at all paranoid or insane to assume the Secret Service might not like you either. I have no doubt Ivan is chuckling up a storm knowing we've such chickens in charge.

Like I posted here some pages before, theres something very weird going on in DC at the moment and they do not seem to trust their own units entirely. This is not a good sign. Just three more days to go.

[Bombadil]

Mitch may be cynical- even craven- but he's also a pragmatist. He was willing to entertain Trump's nonsense when it was winning elections and installing conservative appointees; now that Trump has become a liability perhaps he'll be interested in looking for ways to make the government work again.

Given the senate is tied McConnell had no choice but to reach a power sharing agreement.

I'll see it when I believe it frankly, I imagine the voting records will remain as partisan as ever. The only concession I can see is Trump being impeached, then it's back to normal.

[Vapormancer]

As an aside, it is always very wise to accuse your armed forces of ideological treason before you assume power. It is not at all paranoid or insane to assume the Secret Service might not like you either. I have no doubt Ivan is chuckling up a storm knowing we've such chickens in charge.

Like I posted here some pages before, theres something very weird going on in DC at the moment and they do not seem to trust their own units entirely. This is not a good sign. Just three more days to go.

[Bombadil]

As an aside, it is always very wise to accuse your armed forces of ideological treason before you assume power. It is not at all paranoid or insane to assume the Secret Service might not like you either. I have no doubt Ivan is chuckling up a storm knowing we've such chickens in charge.

Like I posted here some pages before, theres something very weird going on in DC at the moment and they do not seem to trust their own units entirely. This is not a good sign. Just three more days to go.

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

[Vapormancer]

Like I posted here some pages before, theres something very weird going on in DC at the moment and they do not seem to trust their own units entirely. This is not a good sign. Just three more days to go.

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

It wasn't a shock. It was a humiliation. "It was angry white men"-> this is almost as funny as the Washington Post's multiracial white supremacy article coming along to excuse the people of color in the Chevauchee as "white supremacists". You should try viewing it from another lens. Supposedly you are familiar with Europe or come from there in someway, it is quite common to have charges of desperation. Only their charge revealed the American power structure as not only being weak and pathetic at that time but that nobody was willing to risk their ass to save Uncle Sam. With all the response teams in the world, hundreds of millions of dollars, nobody was willing to take personal initiative and save the day. This is why they are so terrified of their own troops and their own security people. The Emperor having no clothes was suddenly revealed. This is why they issue continuity of government orders over a fire under an underpass. Twitter bluechecks rapidly screech it was propane bombs! It was in reality nothing but a small fire by a homeless person and journalists once again prove they are the last to know anything. It speaks to the abject panic at the top. This is end of Empire stuff.

[Nakena]

Like I posted here some pages before, theres something very weird going on in DC at the moment and they do not seem to trust their own units entirely. This is not a good sign. Just three more days to go.

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

35.000 national gardist. Against what sort of threat they are expecting? I mean it will likely result in a superspreader event. The disease may cause more casulties than anything else. Historically this isnt exactly uncommon, but I expect people nowadays should know better than conduct such an madness. I believe the DC is more than anything afraid of angry white men. This becomes a self-fullfilling prophecy.

[Vapormancer]

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

35.000 national gardist. Against what sort of threat they are expecting? I mean it will likely result in a superspreader event. The disease may cause more casulties than anything else. Historically this isnt exactly uncommon, but I expect people nowadays should know better than conduct such an madness. I believe the DC is more than anything afraid of angry white men.

First it was the regulars couldn't be trusted so they needed national guard, now its the other way around and they need a Stryker brigade and F-16s.

[Borderlands of Rojava]

"True patriot" calls out ANTIFA for their shadow war and manipulation tactics while shilling for a coffee company. Oh, and for inciting and being the sole proprietors of the storming of the capitol.

Again, try not to get cancer, and enjoy the sour cringe sauce.

(PS-I post this nutcase just for your hilarious reactions NSG.)

The great antifa boogeyman, eh? So they're soyboy cucks but also a major threat to the very future of the United States.

Can the far right get their antifa story straight

[Cordel One]

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

35.000 national gardist. Against what sort of threat they are expecting? I mean it will likely result in a superspreader event. The disease may cause more casulties than anything else. Historically this isnt exactly uncommon, but I expect people nowadays should know better than conduct such an madness. I believe the DC is more than anything afraid of angry white men. This becomes a self-fullfilling prophecy.

Only after the Capitol was stormed, we'll go back to ignoring them and panicking about civil rights activists soon enough.

[Bombadil]

It's the aftermath of a massive shock to the system, as ever the threat was highly downplayed because it was angry white men, surely they wouldn't cause any trouble.. so the Capitol police were understaffed, the National Guard was held back.. it doesn't require anything more nefarious than general bias in the system.

However it's lead to a shock and thus the equal and opposite reaction.

It wasn't a shock. It was a humiliation. "It was angry white men"-> this is almost as funny as the Washington Post's multiracial white supremacy article coming along to excuse the people of color in the Chevauchee as "white supremacists". You should try viewing it from another lens. Supposedly you are familiar with Europe or come from there in someway, it is quite common to have charges of desperation. Only their charge revealed the American power structure as not only being weak and pathetic at that time but that nobody was willing to risk their ass to save Uncle Sam. With all the response teams in the world, hundreds of millions of dollars, nobody was willing to take personal initiative and save the day. This is why they are so terrified of their own troops and their own security people. The Emperor having no clothes was suddenly revealed. This is why they issue continuity of government orders over a fire under an underpass. Twitter bluechecks rapidly screech it was propane bombs! It was in reality nothing but a small fire by a homeless person and journalists once again prove they are the last to know anything. It speaks to the abject panic at the top. This is end of Empire stuff.

..except after the event those whose lives were literally under threat went back to the tedious process of certifying the election into the early hours of the morning. The system carried on despite the tremendous broadside it took from a self-serving narcissist who whipped up his mob of supporters based on a total fabrication to go and stop the democratic process by force.

And people did step up, from the guy who led protestors away from the recess chambers to the intern who grabbed the ballot boxes and even some protestors who stopped the beating and likely death of a policeman when he cried out that he had children.

Ideally what this did was show some congress people and media the consequences of dangerous and lying behaviour that they supported. And sure, media on the Left can be just as hysterical. Ideally lessons have been learned, alas the US is hyper-capitalist and competitive and there's a huge amount of money involved in politics so I don't see it happening unless campaign finance is drastically reformed.

[Xanthal]

It was a humiliation. "It was angry white men"-> this is almost as funny as the Washington Post's multiracial white supremacy article coming along to excuse the people of color in the Chevauchee as "white supremacists". You should try viewing it from another lens. Supposedly you are familiar with Europe or come from there in someway, it is quite common to have charges of desperation. Only their charge revealed the American power structure as not only being weak and pathetic at that time but that nobody was willing to risk their ass to save Uncle Sam. With all the response teams in the world, hundreds of millions of dollars, nobody was willing to take personal initiative and save the day. This is why they are so terrified of their own troops and their own security people. The Emperor having no clothes was suddenly revealed. This is why they issue continuity of government orders over a fire under an underpass. Twitter bluechecks rapidly screech it was propane bombs! It was in reality nothing but a small fire by a homeless person and journalists once again prove they are the last to know anything. It speaks to the abject panic at the top. This is end of Empire stuff.

This is hyperbole, but there is a ring of truth behind it. The Republicans have convinced their base that the government is out to strip their freedoms, yet they cling to it like parasites. The Democrats have convinced their base that radical reforms are needed, yet proved utterly incapable of delivering any such reforms. Both parties have seriously damaged their own credibility with the people who are supposed to form their core of support, and managed to alienate independents in the process. A third (and maybe fourth and fifth) party is desperately needed, but those same Republicans and Democrats are terrified of reforming the electoral system because they know it will imperil their position of power. It really is an unstoppable force/immovable object situation.

[The Emerald Legion]

"True patriot" calls out ANTIFA for their shadow war and manipulation tactics while shilling for a coffee company. Oh, and for inciting and being the sole proprietors of the storming of the capitol.

Again, try not to get cancer, and enjoy the sour cringe sauce.

(PS-I post this nutcase just for your hilarious reactions NSG.)

The great antifa boogeyman, eh? So they're soyboy cucks but also a major threat to the very future of the United States.

Can the far right get their antifa story straight

I mean, they're not mutually exclusive.

[Vapormancer]

It wasn't a shock. It was a humiliation. "It was angry white men"-> this is almost as funny as the Washington Post's multiracial white supremacy article coming along to excuse the people of color in the Chevauchee as "white supremacists". You should try viewing it from another lens. Supposedly you are familiar with Europe or come from there in someway, it is quite common to have charges of desperation. Only their charge revealed the American power structure as not only being weak and pathetic at that time but that nobody was willing to risk their ass to save Uncle Sam. With all the response teams in the world, hundreds of millions of dollars, nobody was willing to take personal initiative and save the day. This is why they are so terrified of their own troops and their own security people. The Emperor having no clothes was suddenly revealed. This is why they issue continuity of government orders over a fire under an underpass. Twitter bluechecks rapidly screech it was propane bombs! It was in reality nothing but a small fire by a homeless person and journalists once again prove they are the last to know anything. It speaks to the abject panic at the top. This is end of Empire stuff.

..except after the event those whose lives were literally under threat went back to the tedious process of certifying the election into the early hours of the morning. The system carried on despite the tremendous broadside it took from a self-serving narcissist who whipped up his mob of supporters based on a total fabrication to go and stop the democratic process by force.

And people did step up, from the guy who led protestors away from the recess chambers to the intern who grabbed the ballot boxes and even some protestors who stopped the beating and likely death of a policeman when he cried out that he had children.

Ideally what this did was show some congress people and media the consequences of dangerous and lying behaviour that they supported. And sure, media on the Left can be just as hysterical. Ideally lessons have been learned, alas the US is hyper-capitalist and competitive and there's a huge amount of money involved in politics so I don't see it happening unless campaign finance is drastically reformed.

I was referring to the people we have spent trillions on to rescue them in just this sort of situation since 9/11. I was not referring to your dramatized acts of heroism they printed in the Volkischer Beobachter. The system failed for three hours and a group of normies was allowed to do whatever they pleased. The entire capitol will now have to be swept for bugs. Multiple high ranking Senators had their laptops taken and we all know how good the US Government is at cyber security LOL. Calls for help went unheeded, Capitol Police abandoned their posts. The FBI building was a few blocks away, they could have sprung to the rescue! It was a total meltdown of the supposedly most powerful country in the world. The people in charge of the machine found out their cogs don't give a fuck about them. Its a hell of a medicine. I'll even spoon feed you a source from something of your political milieu because I am generous and forgiving man.

Lessons haven't been learned at all otherwise they would not be panicking about the loyalty of the troops or secret service. As they are no doubt now finding out, when you terrify everyone into silence and start rolling heads, suddenly it is very hard to identify who is or isn't a crazy. Oops.

Edit: Let us not forget too the optics of the invincible halls of power being toppled.

[Bombadil]

I was referring to the people we have spent trillions on to rescue them in just this sort of situation since 9/11. I was not referring to your dramatized acts of heroism they printed in the Volkischer Beobachter. The system failed for three hours and a group of normies was allowed to do whatever they pleased. The entire capitol will now have to be swept for bugs. Multiple high ranking Senators had their laptops taken and we all know how good the US Government is at cyber security LOL. Calls for help went unheeded, Capitol Police abandoned their posts. The FBI building was a few blocks away, they could have sprung to the rescue! It was a total meltdown of the supposedly most powerful country in the world. The people in charge of the machine found out their cogs don't give a fuck about them. Its a hell of a medicine. I'll even spoon feed you a source from something of your political milieu because I am generous and forgiving man.

Lessons haven't been learned at all otherwise they would not be panicking about the loyalty of the troops or secret service. As they are no doubt now finding out, when you terrify everyone into silence and start rolling heads, suddenly it is very hard to identify who is or isn't a crazy. Oops.

Edit: Let us not forget too the optics of the invincible halls of power being toppled.

The Capitol police turned down offers of support because, hey, white people are peaceful.. and the National Guard weren't called in because the president was too busy eating popcorn watching events on live TV to make that call, and apparently it would be 'bad optics' to have armed confrontation during an inauguration.

This was a case of deep institutional bias.

[Kowani]

Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan’s Request For Presidential Disaster Declaration ahead of Biden's inauguration was denied

[Kowani]

I was referring to the people we have spent trillions on to rescue them in just this sort of situation since 9/11. I was not referring to your dramatized acts of heroism they printed in the Volkischer Beobachter. The system failed for three hours and a group of normies was allowed to do whatever they pleased. The entire capitol will now have to be swept for bugs. Multiple high ranking Senators had their laptops taken and we all know how good the US Government is at cyber security LOL. Calls for help went unheeded, Capitol Police abandoned their posts. The FBI building was a few blocks away, they could have sprung to the rescue! It was a total meltdown of the supposedly most powerful country in the world. The people in charge of the machine found out their cogs don't give a fuck about them. Its a hell of a medicine. I'll even spoon feed you a source from something of your political milieu because I am generous and forgiving man.

Lessons haven't been learned at all otherwise they would not be panicking about the loyalty of the troops or secret service. As they are no doubt now finding out, when you terrify everyone into silence and start rolling heads, suddenly it is very hard to identify who is or isn't a crazy. Oops.

Edit: Let us not forget too the optics of the invincible halls of power being toppled.

The Capitol police turned down offers of support because, hey, white people are peaceful.. and the National Guard weren't called in because the president was too busy eating popcorn watching events on live TV to make that call, and apparently it would be 'bad optics' to have armed confrontation during an inauguration.

This was a case of deep institutional bias.

Note: The Capitol Police requested Nat. Guard backup 6 times and were denied