American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Albrenia]

Megyn Kelly partly blames media for US Capitol riot: 'They checked their objectivity' by bashing Donald Trump

Kelly, who previously had a falling out with Trump, never bought into his election lies and urged the former president to concede defeat, hits the nail on the head. Contrast MSM's non-stop negative coverage of Trump's every triviality (the way he talks, eats, shops, his choice of table, his weight, appearance, mental state, etc.) particularly by tabloidy trash rags such as The Independent with their cringy fawning over Biden's visit to a local bakery store and their characterization of the Lincoln Memorial's lights as "extensions of Joe Biden's arms embracing America".

MSM, by choosing to so overtly pick a side, discredited themselves, particularly in the eyes of conservatives, and opened millions of Americans up to a deluge of lies, misinformation, and conspiracy theories by QAnon, Trump, etc. that ultimately led up to the Capitol Hill coup attempt. Maybe MSM should stop being a part and parcel of the hatred and division and actually learn to treat the other side with respect.

I seriously doubt news media being nicer to Trump would stop the lies and misinformation from Trump, unless the entire media collectively knelt before him and worshipped him like Breitbart or OAN do. Even Fox News fell victim to his ire for daring to report the election result.

[Agarntrop]

MSM do not like Trump because he is unpredictable, untrustworthy and as a result its not likely that he does what they want him to do.

Daily reminder that CNN not liking Trump doesn't make CNN good.

[Cannot think of a name]

MSM do not like Trump because he is unpredictable, untrustworthy and as a result its not likely that he does what they want him to do.

Daily reminder that CNN not liking Trump doesn't make CNN good.

This is a completely ridiculous read of how news is made.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

MSM do not like Trump because he is unpredictable

Does that sound even half right?

Most politicians labor hard just to get their time on the news. Trump just had to drop a tweet. But Trump over-indulged in "I can say literally anything" and for some reason couldn't understand being criticized for talking hateful and craven shit. Like his Twitter is just his personal opinion and nothing to do with his day job ...

Trump used up his goodwill before he was even elected. I guess his previous experience as a trivial celebrity gave him the high expectations of how positively he'd be covered as President. No other aspect of his Presidency went as badly as his relationship with the press. But the Press is not all-powerful and they couldn't stop him getting elected the first time.

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

Cos the media are our altruistic friends, ok...

[Nejii]

As an American, I will say the mainstream media and many alternate channels alike are laughable.

[The Holy Therns]

MSM do not like Trump because he is unpredictable, untrustworthy and as a result its not likely that he does what they want him to do.

Daily reminder that CNN not liking Trump doesn't make CNN good.

Trump is not unpredictable. Untrustworthy, yes, but hardly unpredictable.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

MSM do not like Trump because he is unpredictable, untrustworthy and as a result its not likely that he does what they want him to do.

Daily reminder that CNN not liking Trump doesn't make CNN good.

Trump is not unpredictable. Untrustworthy, yes, but hardly unpredictable.

As a news source he's unpredictable. You may have known he was going to sack a senior advisor, for instance, but you didn't know when.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Cos the media are our altruistic friends, ok...

If you think the media control people's thoughts, then why do so many people have a low opinion of the media?

[Nejii]

Cos the media are our altruistic friends, ok...

If you think the media control people's thoughts, then why do so many people have a low opinion of the media?

I despise them myself because they throw gasoline on every fire they find, they shamelessly show their bias when reporters are meant to solely report the truth and not their own opinion or spin, and to add to the bias angle they cherry pick what stories they post/share.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Megyn Kelly partly blames media for US Capitol riot: 'They checked their objectivity' by bashing Donald Trump

Kelly, who previously had a falling out with Trump, never bought into his election lies and urged the former president to concede defeat, hits the nail on the head. Contrast MSM's non-stop negative coverage of Trump's every triviality (the way he talks, eats, shops, his choice of table, his weight, appearance, mental state, etc.) particularly by tabloidy trash rags such as The Independent with their cringy fawning over Biden's visit to a local bakery store and their characterization of the Lincoln Memorial's lights as "extensions of Joe Biden's arms embracing America".

MSM, by choosing to so overtly pick a side, discredited themselves, particularly in the eyes of conservatives, and opened millions of Americans up to a deluge of lies, misinformation, and conspiracy theories by QAnon, Trump, etc. that ultimately led up to the Capitol Hill coup attempt. Maybe MSM should stop being a part and parcel of the hatred and division and actually learn to treat the other side with respect.

I seriously doubt news media being nicer to Trump would stop the lies and misinformation from Trump, unless the entire media collectively knelt before him and worshipped him like Breitbart or OAN do. Even Fox News fell victim to his ire for daring to report the election result.

Fox News is more moderate than CNN with a clear dividing line between news and opinion. CNN is all opinion dressed up as news. One cannot honestly claim that their anchors are nonpartisan without lying through their teeth. It clearly shows in the way they talk and their barely-concealed facial expressions of hatred and contempt. It's a left-wing echo chamber. Fox News's reporters actually did their jobs and called the election for Joe Biden as well as calling out McEnany's lies on the spot. Being neutral and impartial doesn't mean bowing to Trump's every demand, but neither does it mean going all out to try to take him down for good while pretending to be fair and balanced. MSM is partly to blame for the Right's epic post-election copefest. Rightists don't know who to turn to for answers anymore, and to be fair, neither do I.

All the comedians, news anchors, celebrities, Big Tech moguls, and everyone whose face has appeared on U.S. television and Hollywood are part of the problem and right now they are once again in the ascendancy. Lady Gaga's appearance at the inauguration exemplifies this. Compare this to Jackie Evancho's appearance at Trump's inauguration for which she received a certain amount of backlash. At least she's managed to remain strictly nonpartisan instead of simply jumping on the woke bandwagon like Taylor Swift and Billie Eilish.

The evening primetime festivities by CNBC were absolute cringe (yes, I watched the whole thing on YT because I couldn't help myself and the music and fireworks were actually pretty good; Firefox has P-in-P mode) and not part of the traditional formalities that ended the moment Biden and his entourage stepped into the White House earlier in the day. (I also watched the entire inauguration as well as the hours of live coverage both before and after he was sworn in. Amanda Gorman was pretty good. Her poem sounded more like prose than poetry to me. I didn't notice any fixed rhyming or rhythm. The exact timing of the actual inauguration from start to finish was ten minutes too soon.)

Brendan O'Neill explains why the woke SJW Left is a far greater threat to what he calls "the American republic" than Trump ever was

All this inauguration fanfare is simply a huge, self-congratulatory pat on the back. Outstretched arms indeed.

(Google Search and YouTube pretty much buried that video with their algorithm. I had to use DuckDuckGo to find it.)

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

Cos the media are our altruistic friends, ok...

If you think the media control people's thoughts, then why do so many people have a low opinion of the media?

This is a massive leap on what I said.

No I do not think that the media do not control people's thoughts. I am not a QAnon-supporting conspiracy hick.

They do however - like all businesses - have interests meaning they frequently engage in sensationalist and biased reporting in order to try and influence their audience.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

If you think the media control people's thoughts, then why do so many people have a low opinion of the media?

This is a massive leap on what I said.

No I do not think that the media do not control people's thoughts. I am not a QAnon-supporting conspiracy hick.

They do however - like all businesses - have interests meaning they frequently engage in sensationalist and biased reporting in order to try and influence their audience.

Their primary motive is to engage as many viewers as possible, while creating a receptive state of mind for advertisements. Bear in mind that this is the media in general, not just 24-hour news channels. Most programming is comedy and mentally-easy documentary/drama. Not thinking very much is ideal for selling product.

Promoting their own interests isn't how they make money. It's promoting the interests of other companies that pay to advertise.

[Cannot think of a name]

I sometimes wonder if some of you guys get your concept of how media works from watching some sort of Captain Planet style cartoon.

[The Alma Mater]

Megyn Kelly partly blames media for US Capitol riot: 'They checked their objectivity' by bashing Donald Trump

Kelly, who previously had a falling out with Trump, never bought into his election lies and urged the former president to concede defeat, hits the nail on the head. Contrast MSM's non-stop negative coverage of Trump's every triviality (the way he talks, eats, shops, his choice of table, his weight, appearance, mental state, etc.) particularly by tabloidy trash rags such as The Independent with their cringy fawning over Biden's visit to a local bakery store and their characterization of the Lincoln Memorial's lights as "extensions of Joe Biden's arms embracing America".

MSM, by choosing to so overtly pick a side, discredited themselves, particularly in the eyes of conservatives, and opened millions of Americans up to a deluge of lies, misinformation, and conspiracy theories by QAnon, Trump, etc. that ultimately led up to the Capitol Hill coup attempt. Maybe MSM should stop being a part and parcel of the hatred and division and actually learn to treat the other side with respect.

I seriously doubt news media being nicer to Trump would stop the lies and misinformation from Trump, unless the entire media collectively knelt before him and worshipped him like Breitbart or OAN do. Even Fox News fell victim to his ire for daring to report the election result.

I dunno. The whole media treating Trump with pity, like you would show a loved one suffering from dementia, could work.

[Picairn]

As an American, I will say the mainstream media and many alternate channels alike are laughable.

Just watch some C-Span and be done with it. I get my daily news from NYTimes, and Kowani.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

I sometimes wonder if some of you guys get your concept of how media works from watching some sort of Captain Planet style cartoon.

Most media carries advertising, and that pays their bills. The interests of advertisers are embodied in the product itself.

If you think media is formed ONLY by what the consumers enjoy, then I guess that serves to ennoble your own career. I don't see any harm in you continuing to think that way.

Come to think of it, big movies get their pay directly, both in the cinema and in rentals. I consider them leading influences, but fairly minor to the consumers in terms of hours watched. I admit to being biased by not liking the cinema experience.

[Echo Chamber Thought Police]

As an American, I will say the mainstream media and many alternate channels alike are laughable.

Just watch some C-Span and be done with it. I get my daily news from NYTimes, and Kowani.

Imagine my shock

[Nejii]

As an American, I will say the mainstream media and many alternate channels alike are laughable.

Just watch some C-Span and be done with it. I get my daily news from NYTimes, and Kowani.

Very low bias for C-Span, at least according to this.

In truth I don't really mull over which news outlets are "good or bad", so to speak. I utilize multiple sources, though I'm very aware of their various biases. There are outlets though that I typically outright avoid, New York Times typically being one of them.

[The Archregimancy]

This US flag....

Thoughts on whether the field of stars redesign works from an aesthetic perspective should that flag become necessary over the next couple of years?

[Nejii]

This US flag....

(Image)

Thoughts on whether the field of stars redesign works from an aesthetic perspective should that flag become necessary over the next couple of years?

Looks great to me. *shrug*

[Northern Socialist Council Republics]

In truth I don't really mull over which news outlets are "good or bad", so to speak. I utilize multiple sources, though I'm very aware of their various biases. There are outlets though that I typically outright avoid, New York Times typically being one of them.

I know that it’s always good practice to read and compare multiple sources from various perspectives, but that’s more time and effort than I really want to spend on politics.

Unless I’m really interested in a particular issue and the facts surrounding it, an article on BBC will suffice for me.

[The New California Republic]

This US flag....

(Image)

Thoughts on whether the field of stars redesign works from an aesthetic perspective should that flag become necessary over the next couple of years?

For me it's more pleasing to the eye. It's switched from 9 rows to 6 with tighter horizontal spacing, and thus forms much sharper triangular patternation if you pick out groups of stars. The triangles formed by the star arrangement on the current flag looks squished.

[Nejii]

In truth I don't really mull over which news outlets are "good or bad", so to speak. I utilize multiple sources, though I'm very aware of their various biases. There are outlets though that I typically outright avoid, New York Times typically being one of them.

I know that it’s always good practice to read and compare multiple sources from various perspectives, but that’s more time and effort than I really want to spend on politics.

Unless I’m really interested in a particular issue and the facts surrounding it, an article on BBC will suffice for me.

Eh, politics and social issues are more interesting to me that social media and ninety percent of television TBH. Not to mention with me working from home and pretty much being in my own zone with a computer and phone all day... well... shrug. Of course work always come first.

[Cannot think of a name]

I sometimes wonder if some of you guys get your concept of how media works from watching some sort of Captain Planet style cartoon.

Most media carries advertising, and that pays their bills. The interests of advertisers are embodied in the product itself.

If you think media is formed ONLY by what the consumers enjoy, then I guess that serves to ennoble your own career. I don't see any harm in you continuing to think that way.

Come to think of it, big movies get their pay directly, both in the cinema and in rentals. I consider them leading influences, but fairly minor to the consumers in terms of hours watched. I admit to being biased by not liking the cinema experience.

Like I said, some sort of Captain Planet cartoon. And a bit of that good old Dunning Kruger that makes trying to have a realistic conversation about it pretty much impossible.