American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Heloin]

I'm not sure how the both of you are reading Farn's point as pro pipeline. Temporary construction jobs that will vaporise soon after they appear leaving only a tiny number of jobs for a project that would be so costly to the environment both local and globally.

[Senkaku]

Welp, Biden threw a wrench into Canadian-US relations by immediately shutting down the US-Canada Keystone Pipeline. How amazing.

Lucky Canada with all their other options lol

[The United Confederacy of Texas]

According to the Proud, Pro Trump Republican Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA, which we are, that I have talked too and strongly agree with me, for the first time in American History the USA has gone trough a Hispanic, Brazilian, Latin American style Political Coup d'état, due to the massive Democrat vote fraud against Republican President Trump. GMS.

As a Latin American person, you and your fellow Trumpists are wrong and have no idea what a coup d'etat looks like.

Finally, someone actually mentions it

[San Lumen]

Welp, Biden threw a wrench into Canadian-US relations by immediately shutting down the US-Canada Keystone Pipeline. How amazing.

That pipeline runs through the Ogallala Aquifer, one of the world's largest reserves of fresh water. Imagine the environmental consequences if the pipe leaks. If Canada wants to join the league of civilized countries concerned with the survival of the human race, they should respect Biden's decision.

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

[Picairn]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

[San Lumen]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

Too bad. The environment and the world should not not suffer because of their stubbornness. Trudeau should follow suit and cancel the pipeline be approved.

[Necroghastia]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

what no rats does to a mfer

[Farnhamia]

I'm not sure how the both of you are reading Farn's point as pro pipeline. Temporary construction jobs that will vaporise soon after they appear leaving only a tiny number of jobs for a project that would be so costly to the environment both local and globally.

No one understands me. *weeps*

[Heloin]

I'm not sure how the both of you are reading Farn's point as pro pipeline. Temporary construction jobs that will vaporise soon after they appear leaving only a tiny number of jobs for a project that would be so costly to the environment both local and globally.

No one understands me. *weeps*

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JKlSVNxLB-A

[The Marlborough]

Welp, Biden threw a wrench into Canadian-US relations by immediately shutting down the US-Canada Keystone Pipeline. How amazing.

That pipeline runs through the Ogallala Aquifer, one of the world's largest reserves of fresh water. Imagine the environmental consequences if the pipe leaks. If Canada wants to join the league of civilized countries concerned with the survival of the human race, they should respect Biden's decision.

You do realize Canada does quite a lot for the environment and that according to the EPI is a greener country than the US?

[Cordel One]

According to the Proud, Pro Trump Republican Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA, which we are, that I have talked too and strongly agree with me, for the first time in American History the USA has gone trough a Hispanic, Brazilian, Latin American style Political Coup d'état, due to the massive Democrat vote fraud against Republican President Trump. GMS.

Liri already mentioned it, but latin-American coups are completely different and much less idiotically orchestrated.

[Picairn]

You do realize Canada does quite a lot for the environment and that according to the EPI is a greener country than the US?

Then the Canadian government should tell Alberta officials to go f themselves with the pipeline, they are seething right now that they can't have the oil and money anymore. https://www.ft.com/content/be262b55-420 ... 3bb09ae029

[New haven america]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

That's cause Alberta gets all its money from oil, most Canadian oil fields are out there, and their hockey team is even the Edmonton Oilers.

Literally the only reason Alberta can compete with BC economically, or else it'd be the same as Saskatchewan and Manitoba.

[Odreria]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

Discovery of the century right here.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Welp, Biden threw a wrench into Canadian-US relations by immediately shutting down the US-Canada Keystone Pipeline. How amazing.

As an American ally Canada could also stop selling oil to PRC for one.

[Kowani]

Senate Judiciary chair Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) let the DOJ know that he's investigating Trump's pressure campaign on department officials and it should preserve all relevant documents/emails/texts

(other Sens. involved are Patrick Leahy (D-VT), Amy Klobuchar (D-MN), Richard Blumenthal (D-CN), Cory Booker (D-NJ), Dianne Feinstein (D-CA), Sheldon Whitehouse (D-RI), Chris Coons (D-DE), and Mazie Hirono (D-HI)

[Cannot think of a name]

Senate Judiciary chair Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) let the DOJ know that he's investigating Trump's pressure campaign on department officials and it should preserve all relevant documents/emails/texts

This kind of reminds me that I sort of expected the new administration to come in and find a whole lot of 'scene missing' in regards to paperwork and records from people ducking out on all the illegal or questionable shit they did.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Sure, but now there's 48,000 tons of scrap steel.

It can be used for other things.

At further energy expense. Someone has to go get it, cut it into 10 foot lengths, cut a door in each one, then find a market for bulletproof yurts.

Or more realistically, recycle it as used steel. Melt it down. Turn it back into sheet or rod.

Cancelling Keystone XL writes off a lot of energy, resources and emissions. Everyone would be better off if government could run all its tests simultaneously and give the company a Yes or No, which would be binding on government as well as obviously the company. Seems like government, unlike any other participant in a contract, has the prerogative to change its mind.

Actually, how about offering companies two routes to approval: quick, but less likely to be in their favor, or slow, with current due process, and more likely to favor them. The encouragement to plan long term can only be a good thing.

[A-Series-Of-Tubes]

Senate Judiciary chair Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) let the DOJ know that he's investigating Trump's pressure campaign on department officials and it should preserve all relevant documents/emails/texts

This kind of reminds me that I sort of expected the new administration to come in and find a whole lot of 'scene missing' in regards to paperwork and records from people ducking out on all the illegal or questionable shit they did.

That in itself is illegal, so I expect lots of suspiciously everyday bumpf when other records show they were interacting with the other staff. Lies, yes, but lies that are hard to prove.

[Gravlen]

Welp, Biden threw a wrench into Canadian-US relations by immediately shutting down the US-Canada Keystone Pipeline. How amazing.

Oh? Did he say there is a “special place in hell” for the weak and very dishonest premier, and that the Canadian people should pay for taking advantage of the US? Did he claim that there were national security reasons for doing what he long had promised to do, like Trump did when he levied tariffs on canadian foodstuffs?

[Gravlen]

Like I said, if they think they've got a case, go for it. But like the 60 different election lawsuits, talking about a wrong doing and actually prosecuting one are two different things.

You'll never convince me that we shouldn't hold someone accountable because someone might hold someone else accountable later on.

Impeachment is supposed to be for sitting Presidents, not past ones. Think of it almost like a statute of limitations.

This is not true. There's nothing in the Constitution limiting it to only sitting presidents, and logically it wouldn't make sense to limit it to sitting presidents as the disqualification clause would be utterly meaningless if that was true.

It's moot, regardless, since Trump was impeached as a sitting president.

This hasn't been done for very good reasons as in periods of hyper-partisanship could lead to a revolving door of constantly impeaching the other guys predecessors. Further, imo this wouldn't encourage better behavior it would, imo, accelerate the extent in which President's break the law and act more despotically. This wouldn't be new either, this revolving door of damnatio memoriae has been seen and done before. The US isn't immune to this and such periods led to greater instability. As Cicero kept saying to Cato and his supporters, it's better to let Caesar off the hook than push him further to the breaking point.

Personally, I like accountability, and I don't think one should simply shrug off an attempted coup.

[Gravlen]

Hawaii GOP:
"Q is a fiction. The ficticious Q conspiracy is an exploitative fantasy, and PBS, CNN, and legacy media helped give it credence by their normal hyperbolic coverage."

Meanwhile at Texas GOP:
"WE ARE THE STORM!"

[Adamede]

Yes that would be utterly catastrophic. Alberta needs to diversify their economy and if they are unwilling to do that tough.

During the research into the Keystone pipeline I also found out that Alberta is still pro-oil. Seems like not all regions of Canada is a progressive paradise.

I thought this was a well known fact that Alberta is Canadian Texas.

[Picairn]

I thought this was a well known fact that Alberta is Canadian Texas.

Not me, my perception of Canada has been somewhat tainted from left-leaning media, the statistics (like what Marlborough cited earlier), and how Canadians portray themselves as better and more progressive than the US.

[Asherahan]

According to the Proud, Pro Trump Republican Supporters, Pro USA, USA, USA, American Patriot Citizens of The USA, which we are, that I have talked too and strongly agree with me, for the first time in American History the USA has gone trough a Hispanic, Brazilian, Latin American style Political Coup d'état, due to the massive Democrat vote fraud against Republican President Trump. GMS.

No.