American Politics III: New President, Same Old Country

[Atheris]

Obama knew how to look presentable and nice and kind.

Every time Trump opens his mouth and attacks someone or something, he hands over a metric fuckton of examples for anyone who wants to bash him.

Perhaps the media would attack Trump at a disproportionate rate even if he had the presentability of Obama, but Trump is not innocent in this matter. He has contributed to why the media constantly go after him.

I was quite shocked when Trump won the republican primary because of the way he speaks (in a non-presidential way). I said that he would only have a 5% chance of winning. Turns out that my favorite in the primary, Rand Paul, got less than 5% in Iowa. Why is Trump better than Rand Paul? It still shocks me. I guess Trump did a better job of telling 'his' people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear.

It is hard to know what works. Mao dressed in a casual non-presidential way and people liked it. Hitler spoke harshly and people liked it. Maybe it is about showing confidence. Despite the media attacks, Trump is much more popular than people with a much better way to improve the USA (Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, Jo Jorgensen). I find it fascinating but also a bit shocking and a bit sad.

Trump speaks like that because it draws attention. It's why he insulted the other Republicans in 2016, why he cracked jokes, why he posted memes. He got elected in 2016 because he used Twitter and gathered attention like how JFK and FDR did with TV and radio.

[Trump the Punk]

PUNK'S NOT DEAD, AND NEITHER AM I

Anarchy in the US 2024

[No State Here]

I imagine myself waking up and immediately teleporting myself to a club with hookers and beer and then going on a joyride in a flying tesla while the news station reports on Elon Musk’s 5th Mars Base

Elon Musk is probably going to Mars anyways

Which would open an entirely new can of worms on private property rights outside of Earth

PUNK IS NOT DEAD, AND NEITHER AM I

Anarchy in the US 2024

Ok, who’s puppet is this?

[Cultural Posadism]

It usually helps when you back up stuff like this with examples. (That goes for claiming Trump was bad too, but inciting a riot is still lingering in everyone's mind so goes with out saying lately)

Note. These bad things don't excuse Trump from his wrong actions:

50 Things Barack Obama Has Done Wrong

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhaw ... g-n1876744

The first few points don't mention any actual policy, just socioeconomic phenomena that happened while he was in office. And when it does cite policies... it seldom provides any sources. Number 12 doesn't actually explain why that was a wrong policy. It's just relying on reader's own preconceptions. Number 14 provides no sources. Number 15 is correct... but it's neglecting to mention the contextually relevant bit of information that the NSA's mass surveillance has widespread bipartisan support. It's not just Obama. Then come more claims without sources, and those which have sources use blatantly biased ones (see number 22 and 23, which cite rightwingnews.com). 24 is a claim with no supporting argument. 25 is an even bigger claim with no sources, same with 26. 27 also lacks a source, but I do remember it being a genuine problem. In number 28 the author is blaming Obama for creating racial tensions, which is hilariously ignorant at best. 31 is petty aesthetic bullshit. 32 has no sources. 33 is a vague opinion with no argument or sources. 34 doesn't actually make an argument as to what exactly was wrong with the Obama administration's actions. 35 is just poorly argued voter suppression apologia. In 36, the author seems to think Obama invented the TSA and its idiotic procedures, which is another hilariously ignorant thing on their part. 37 is another claim with no proper argument or sources to back it up. 38 is another claim with no proper argument or sources to back it up, and one could also ask why is Obama getting singled out when he hasn't been the only American president since 1969. 39 is vague, has no supporting argument and, again, lacks a source.

Now... 40? Finally a legitimate fucking criticism. It's not well-argued or well-sourced, but at least they stumbled onto a correct claim for once.

41 is just conservative political correctness. 42 lacks an argument. 43 lacks a source. 44 lacks a source. 45 lacks a source (which makes sense, because it's blaming Obama for something originally decided during the Bush Jr. administration and also ignores that Obama couldn't just unilaterally decide to continue to occupy a sovereign nation). 46 lacks an argument as to what was wrong about it... and a source, of course. 47 is just a string of unsourced claims. 48 lacks an argument. 49 lacks proof. 50 lacks an argument.

So... that's about 1/50, which does prove what I was saying before: conservative media during the Obama years were fucking terrible, beyond incompetent, when it came to actually making any valid arguments against the Obama administration. All they had, for the most part, was their own implicit ideological dogmatism.

18 Major Scandals in Obama’s ‘Scandal-Free’ Presidency

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017 ... residency/

Ignoring the bad praxis that is citing Breitbart...

[Freiheit Reich]

The have to wait until the iron is hot to strike it. They are gaining power and are smart enough to slowly erode freedoms. Pol Pot took away freedoms TOO fast and that is why after a few years, he lost power over much of the country (invading Vietnam didn't help much either). Hitler and his Nazi Party also took freedoms away slowly and only after they had total power. Xi Jinping is also clever enough to not take away all remaining freedoms at once. He is testing out his ideas in Xinjiang before spreading them across the rest of China.

Which is why it's not gonna happen, at least for the next four years.

The senate is split, and Joe Manchin counts as a Democrat.

Democrats will wait several years before sending adults to such camps. They can start indoctrinating children in school (as they are already doing) before worrying about the adults.

I'm gonna hit a big [X] to doubt on that.

OK. I was wrong. Democrats are not a hive mind (on some issues-they were when it came to impeaching Trump judging by the vote). Extreme leftist democrats will wait...

[Cultural Posadism]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?

[Trump the Punk]

PUNK IS NOT DEAD, AND NEITHER AM I

Anarchy in the US 2024

Ok, who’s puppet is this?[/quote]

Puppet? You're the puppet!

I'm Don Trump, and I've had enough of the deep state. Gonna destroy the state so there is no state, and it's going to be beautiful, a lot of people are saying that.

[Kowani]

The end of an era…

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

If it didn’t work for Alex Jones, o don’t know why she thinks it’ll work for her

[Freiheit Reich]

I was quite shocked when Trump won the republican primary because of the way he speaks (in a non-presidential way). I said that he would only have a 5% chance of winning. Turns out that my favorite in the primary, Rand Paul, got less than 5% in Iowa. Why is Trump better than Rand Paul? It still shocks me. I guess Trump did a better job of telling 'his' people what they want to hear instead of what they need to hear.

It is hard to know what works. Mao dressed in a casual non-presidential way and people liked it. Hitler spoke harshly and people liked it. Maybe it is about showing confidence. Despite the media attacks, Trump is much more popular than people with a much better way to improve the USA (Rand Paul, Gary Johnson, Jo Jorgensen). I find it fascinating but also a bit shocking and a bit sad.

Trump speaks like that because it draws attention. It's why he insulted the other Republicans in 2016, why he cracked jokes, why he posted memes. He got elected in 2016 because he used Twitter and gathered attention like how JFK and FDR did with TV and radio.

I suppose he believes 'nice guys finish last' and in 2016, he was proven right.

[Kexholm Karelia]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?

Not all of them are conspiracy nuts but all of them are laissez faire trickle down people, just like the old generation, which I used to agree with but realized is a shit policy and goes against everything Jesus preached

[Trump the Punk]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?

Better than the wusses that publish this garbage: https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/01/this-time-there-may-not-be-a-do-over

Can you believe these conservacucks? appealing to unity and talking to *barf* liberals! Not me, I WANNA DESTROY!

[The Untied State]

Re-education camps aren't some brand new idea only China has ever conceived of.

If the Dems were really dedicated to this idea, they would have done it or made steps to do it before even China did it, because the idea has been around for quite a while, and so has the particular ideas you're alleging might lead to this.

Democrats (assuming extreme leftists take over the party) will wait several years before sending adults to such camps. They can start indoctrinating children in school (as they are already doing) before worrying about the adults.

democrat gulag when

[Kowani]

I just love Scaramuccis reaction to his invitation to the Trump farewell on Andrews Air Force Base:
“Trust me, that had to be a mass email if one of them got sent to me”

But it will probably the biggliest departure in history.

https://www.insideedition.com/anthony-s ... ad-to-be-a

Kelly and McGahn got invites too

Mate is really desperate

[The Untied State]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

that's disgusting. a fucking school shooting? what the hell

[Major-Tom]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?

Well, it's no longer really conservatism, is it?

[Nakena]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene spreaded the conspiracy that Parkland school shooting was a ‘false flag’.

Oh boy...

This Alex Jones trash tier madness. The thing has been floating around for longer though. Greene isn't the first one to spread this theory. Jones got even in legal trouble over it.

[Kexholm Karelia]

What does it say about the absolute state of American conservatism that the new generation of Republican congresspeople are a bunch of violent conspiracy theorists and neo nazis?

Well, it's no longer really conservatism, is it?

It’s hypocritical when "conservatives" say they support the right to life and then refuse to help single mothers and cry "personal responsibility," only now that I’ve snapped out of this talking point tirade I realize dhow insanely bad my former views were. The US needs a party like Germany’s CDU, actual conservatism is holding your government to a moralistic standard and making sure all your citizens are happy

[Kowani]

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[Nakena]

Well, it's no longer really conservatism, is it?

It’s hypocritical when "conservatives" say they support the right to life and then refuse to help single mothers and cry "personal responsibility," only now that I’ve snapped out of this talking point tirade I realize dhow insanely bad my former views were. The US needs a party like Germany’s CDU, actual conservatism is holding your government to a moralistic standard and making sure all your citizens are happy

What made you snap out of it though?

[Kexholm Karelia]

It’s hypocritical when "conservatives" say they support the right to life and then refuse to help single mothers and cry "personal responsibility," only now that I’ve snapped out of this talking point tirade I realize dhow insanely bad my former views were. The US needs a party like Germany’s CDU, actual conservatism is holding your government to a moralistic standard and making sure all your citizens are happy

What made you snap out of it though?

IDK, maybe the capitol riot or something along that saga

[Thermodolia]

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The my pillow isn’t even that great. It doesn’t match to the hype

[Autumn Wind]

Note. These bad things don't excuse Trump from his wrong actions:

50 Things Barack Obama Has Done Wrong

https://townhall.com/columnists/johnhaw ... g-n1876744

The first few points don't mention any actual policy, just socioeconomic phenomena that happened while he was in office. And when it does cite policies... it seldom provides any sources. Number 12 doesn't actually explain why that was a wrong policy. It's just relying on reader's own preconceptions. Number 14 provides no sources. Number 15 is correct... but it's neglecting to mention the contextually relevant bit of information that the NSA's mass surveillance has widespread bipartisan support. It's not just Obama. Then come more claims without sources, and those which have sources use blatantly biased ones (see number 22 and 23, which cite rightwingnews.com). 24 is a claim with no supporting argument. 25 is an even bigger claim with no sources, same with 26. 27 also lacks a source, but I do remember it being a genuine problem. In number 28 the author is blaming Obama for creating racial tensions, which is hilariously ignorant at best. 31 is petty aesthetic bullshit. 32 has no sources. 33 is a vague opinion with no argument or sources. 34 doesn't actually make an argument as to what exactly was wrong with the Obama administration's actions. 35 is just poorly argued voter suppression apologia. In 36, the author seems to think Obama invented the TSA and its idiotic procedures, which is another hilariously ignorant thing on their part. 37 is another claim with no proper argument or sources to back it up. 38 is another claim with no proper argument or sources to back it up, and one could also ask why is Obama getting singled out when he hasn't been the only American president since 1969. 39 is vague, has no supporting argument and, again, lacks a source.

Now... 40? Finally a legitimate fucking criticism. It's not well-argued or well-sourced, but at least they stumbled onto a correct claim for once.

41 is just conservative political correctness. 42 lacks an argument. 43 lacks a source. 44 lacks a source. 45 lacks a source (which makes sense, because it's blaming Obama for something originally decided during the Bush Jr. administration and also ignores that Obama couldn't just unilaterally decide to continue to occupy a sovereign nation). 46 lacks an argument as to what was wrong about it... and a source, of course. 47 is just a string of unsourced claims. 48 lacks an argument. 49 lacks proof. 50 lacks an argument.

So... that's about 1/50, which does prove what I was saying before: conservative media during the Obama years were fucking terrible, beyond incompetent, when it came to actually making any valid arguments against the Obama administration. All they had, for the most part, was their own implicit ideological dogmatism.

18 Major Scandals in Obama’s ‘Scandal-Free’ Presidency

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2017 ... residency/

Ignoring the bad praxis that is citing Breitbart...

#6 is wrong anyway. The US lost AAA status because partisan gridlock/sequestration meant cash flow for paying creditors was diminished, not because “Obama was spending too much.”

[Kowani]

And the first conspiracy charges have been filed, against several members of the Oathkeepers militia

[Nakena]

MyPillow loses more business

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The my pillow isn’t even that great. It doesn’t match to the hype

Pillow Man is unironically peak cringe.

[Rusozak]

The my pillow isn’t even that great. It doesn’t match to the hype

Pillow Man is unironically peak cringe.

I was willing to give him benefit of the doubt when he financed Kyle Rittenhouse, but I can safely put him in the Trumpist nutcase category now.